DAI is basically DA2 with frilly bits which are there to fool players who didn't like DA2 that it's not DA2. If you didn't like DA2 then avoid this like the plague. DAO is the only worthy title in the series.
Should I buy Dragon Age Inquisition? Honest Opinions.
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ill tell you right now my mage is wearing heavy armor and solos dragons as a knight enchanter. the class is ridiculously OP due to its infinite barrier energy sword. As to the heavy armor only thing you need to do with that is craft it with silverite which can be found pretty early on if you pick up the free black emporium dlc. I can honestly tell you ive enjoyed DA:I more then ive enjoyed witcher 3(mostly because I could give more of a dam about the world in one then the other)LostTrigger said:
also its good to note that many people thought DA:I was bad due to them not being able to keep their expectations in check if you go in with decent expectations you wont be disappointed.
I've played both games and if you do get DA:I DON'T get it on PC, yes they've been getting patches and DLC first but trust me not worth it, the machine you need in order to get good frame rate and decent graphics doesn't exist. Anyway, the price of DA:I has of course dropped to about half of the original cost (at least in my area). Mages are a big step up from their Origins days, like in 2 if an enemy gets physically close (Not that Bull or Cassandra don't usually decimate them before they get the chance) your mage can physically smack your opponent upside the head and that's about as much damage as it does. Unless of course you become a Knight Enchanter (KE) (Arcane Warrior) in which case after spending a few points you can wield shield and sword. My one complaint about mages is they can no longer heal your party members unless it is a revival the KE's do have Resurgence but don't rely on it. To contradict myself I do have the PC edition and there is a mod that removes armor restrictions, which since I play as a KE I do like running around in at least Leather(medium) armor. Yeah I know I used a mod shame on me.
As for Witcher 3, it's better than 2, but I have a deep irritation for 2 so it's not saying much. The controls are better (hell of a lot better) and the graphics are fairly well done, no one has come running past me with their arms and legs spinning wildly through their body. Also the requirements for this on PC aren't quite as demanding as DA:I. I have yet to play as a magic user in W3 so I can't give you insight in that regard, sorry. Playing as a warrior has proven that the world is quite vast and it is a lot of fun running to and fro decapitating things all willy nilly, just don't get full of your self.
All in all I would wait at least another couple of weeks for the price to drop on Witcher 3 and a few more reviews to come in before making your decision. You could also rent the games and try them I do this with most of the games I want to buy after an indecent with a game called Venetica.
You don't actually have to do all the fetch quest, in fact you don't need to do any of them. Of course this is coming from a girl who isn't an obsessive completest. *Shrugs*DrownedAmmet said:
As for Witcher 3, it's better than 2, but I have a deep irritation for 2 so it's not saying much. The controls are better (hell of a lot better) and the graphics are fairly well done, no one has come running past me with their arms and legs spinning wildly through their body. Also the requirements for this on PC aren't quite as demanding as DA:I. I have yet to play as a magic user in W3 so I can't give you insight in that regard, sorry. Playing as a warrior has proven that the world is quite vast and it is a lot of fun running to and fro decapitating things all willy nilly, just don't get full of your self.
All in all I would wait at least another couple of weeks for the price to drop on Witcher 3 and a few more reviews to come in before making your decision. You could also rent the games and try them I do this with most of the games I want to buy after an indecent with a game called Venetica.
Well, I'm going against everyone and say that DA:I was really good.
But still not better than the Witcher 3. Its better than 2 (and again against popular opinion) not better than Witcher 1. The side quest and the open world in witcher 3 is way better but if you want to go into a fight with magic, then DA:I is way better (I love magic). Stick them with swords? Then pick Witcher 3 (or 1. Witcher 2 felt like Diablo with all the useless clicking.)
But still not better than the Witcher 3. Its better than 2 (and again against popular opinion) not better than Witcher 1. The side quest and the open world in witcher 3 is way better but if you want to go into a fight with magic, then DA:I is way better (I love magic). Stick them with swords? Then pick Witcher 3 (or 1. Witcher 2 felt like Diablo with all the useless clicking.)
It is a single player MMO, from the stuff you do down to the combat. If you enjoy that sort of thing, knock yourself out and have fun.
Well, if you didn't like DA:O and DA2, I don't see how Inquisition will change your mind.
It's not a bad game, certainly better than DA2, but the overall experience is just a mess. Not unlike Mass Effect 3. There's almost no nuance to any of its subject matter, and it has just the lamest villain I think I've ever seen in a Bioware game. There's still good times to be had, just don't expect to come out of it with a real sense satisfaction and accomplishment.
And to echo everyone regarding The Witcher 3... Yes, it is a terrific game that blows Inquistion right out of the water. And this is coming from someone who absolutely hated everything about The Witcher 2, apart from the visual design and Triss' naked body.
It's not a bad game, certainly better than DA2, but the overall experience is just a mess. Not unlike Mass Effect 3. There's almost no nuance to any of its subject matter, and it has just the lamest villain I think I've ever seen in a Bioware game. There's still good times to be had, just don't expect to come out of it with a real sense satisfaction and accomplishment.
And to echo everyone regarding The Witcher 3... Yes, it is a terrific game that blows Inquistion right out of the water. And this is coming from someone who absolutely hated everything about The Witcher 2, apart from the visual design and Triss' naked body.
I wouldn't exspecially if you enjoyed neither DA 1 or DA 2. The combat is pretty sucky. Kinda fun at first, just because of how actiony it is, but it gets stale very fast and this is a looooong game. I was really dissapointed by the story of the game. This was Bioware's poorest story to date by far. Nothing as offensive as the ME 3 ending but just pretty bad all around. The sidequests and generall side content was pathetic. All sidequests are boring fetch-quests just there to bloat up the game and their not fun at all. The thing about Inquisition is that its the perfect example of feature-creep. They threw in so many different features that all sound very cool on paper, but because there are so many all of them are barely polished and just end up dissapointing you.
I will say that you should get the Witcher 3. It's just a fantastic game. I got 50 hours in Inquisition until i was too bored to continue, but i was allready bored when i got to 25 hours and just continued to justify my purchase. I am currently 50 hours into the Witcher 3 and can't wait to play more. I just got to the third major area and still have tons of stuff to do in the other two.
The Story is great and told in a very interresting way. The combat is sort-of similar to the Witcher 2, but it's a lot more fluid with better controls and that makes a HUGE difference. It's pretty damn fun all around.
But what most impressed me about the game are the sidemissions. I seriously could not get my jaw to get back up. The sidemissions are just fantastic. They are as detailed and story-rich as the main missions of the game and are incredibly polished. One mission started with me performing a fake robery to help a friend woo a woman, so she would lend him money, and ended with a complex murder mystery plot were it was perfectly possible to get the wrong guy if your not diligent and observant enough. That's a freakin sidemission, mind you. It's just incredible how nearly every single sidemission in this game blows Inquisitions main storymissions out of the water.
I will say that you should get the Witcher 3. It's just a fantastic game. I got 50 hours in Inquisition until i was too bored to continue, but i was allready bored when i got to 25 hours and just continued to justify my purchase. I am currently 50 hours into the Witcher 3 and can't wait to play more. I just got to the third major area and still have tons of stuff to do in the other two.
The Story is great and told in a very interresting way. The combat is sort-of similar to the Witcher 2, but it's a lot more fluid with better controls and that makes a HUGE difference. It's pretty damn fun all around.
But what most impressed me about the game are the sidemissions. I seriously could not get my jaw to get back up. The sidemissions are just fantastic. They are as detailed and story-rich as the main missions of the game and are incredibly polished. One mission started with me performing a fake robery to help a friend woo a woman, so she would lend him money, and ended with a complex murder mystery plot were it was perfectly possible to get the wrong guy if your not diligent and observant enough. That's a freakin sidemission, mind you. It's just incredible how nearly every single sidemission in this game blows Inquisitions main storymissions out of the water.
Dragon Age Inquisition is alright, mainly by comparison to the mess that was DA2 and the terrible ending of ME3. There's a solid story at the heart of it, some cool characters and a decent atmosphere. When it's good, it's good. HOWEVER...
The good parts are scattered in a wide ocean of mediocre filler content. 90% of the game is padding, and lazy padding at that. For every sequence like the Royal Ball in Val Royeaux there's 10 hours of gathering Elfroot and fighting wolves in the Hinterlands. It's like having pieces of tasty bacon hidden in a massive block of unseasoned tofu...
Next, there's the fact that the game follows the "Bioware Formula" blindly. The way you interact with characters is entirely predictable and formulaic. It used to work fine, but by this point you can't help but wonder if they could start to shake it up a bit. The way the narrative is presented is unengaging and not particularly compelling, especially if you've played other Bioware games in the past.
The combat is the worst they've had yet. While it's nice that they got rid of the spawning waves of enemies from DA2, the combat itself is scaled down to an action game. The tactics system is pretty much gutted and lobotomized, so you're forced to rely on terrible AI for the most part. Controlling in combat is like they took out any and all hints of complexity in the mechanics and leveling, but at the same time didn't put in any mechanical complexity. You're basically playing WoW with 4-5 abilities.
So it's a bloated, predictable game with bland and simplistic gameplay, sprinkled with some good moments and fun characters. It can scratch the RPG itch in absence of anything better and is at least overall better than DA2.
It's kinda tragic, really. Dragon Age did get it right, with the first game, no less. If they stuck to that formula, they'd have a classic series. As it stands, DA is a catalogue of Bioware's decay...
Finally, the most damning thing that can be said about DA:I is that Witcher 3 exists. Made by a smaller studio, with a smaller budget and no huge publisher behind them, it blows DA:I straight out of the water in every conceivable way. Seriously, the story, the characters, the gameplay, the world, the graphics. It's better in every way. It's also a large game, but it doesn't FEEL like padding, it's not tedious. There's tons to do, but it feels natural to do it, and there's story outside of the main quest worth pursuing. There is depth and fullness to the world, conveyed organically that simply can't be matched by DA:I's dry codex entries.
Seriously, just get Witcher 3.
Then after you're done with that, and still need to scratch the RPG itch... get Pillars of Eternity.
After that, maybe, just MAYBE, consider getting Dragon Age: Inquisition.
The good parts are scattered in a wide ocean of mediocre filler content. 90% of the game is padding, and lazy padding at that. For every sequence like the Royal Ball in Val Royeaux there's 10 hours of gathering Elfroot and fighting wolves in the Hinterlands. It's like having pieces of tasty bacon hidden in a massive block of unseasoned tofu...
Next, there's the fact that the game follows the "Bioware Formula" blindly. The way you interact with characters is entirely predictable and formulaic. It used to work fine, but by this point you can't help but wonder if they could start to shake it up a bit. The way the narrative is presented is unengaging and not particularly compelling, especially if you've played other Bioware games in the past.
The combat is the worst they've had yet. While it's nice that they got rid of the spawning waves of enemies from DA2, the combat itself is scaled down to an action game. The tactics system is pretty much gutted and lobotomized, so you're forced to rely on terrible AI for the most part. Controlling in combat is like they took out any and all hints of complexity in the mechanics and leveling, but at the same time didn't put in any mechanical complexity. You're basically playing WoW with 4-5 abilities.
So it's a bloated, predictable game with bland and simplistic gameplay, sprinkled with some good moments and fun characters. It can scratch the RPG itch in absence of anything better and is at least overall better than DA2.
It's kinda tragic, really. Dragon Age did get it right, with the first game, no less. If they stuck to that formula, they'd have a classic series. As it stands, DA is a catalogue of Bioware's decay...
Finally, the most damning thing that can be said about DA:I is that Witcher 3 exists. Made by a smaller studio, with a smaller budget and no huge publisher behind them, it blows DA:I straight out of the water in every conceivable way. Seriously, the story, the characters, the gameplay, the world, the graphics. It's better in every way. It's also a large game, but it doesn't FEEL like padding, it's not tedious. There's tons to do, but it feels natural to do it, and there's story outside of the main quest worth pursuing. There is depth and fullness to the world, conveyed organically that simply can't be matched by DA:I's dry codex entries.
Seriously, just get Witcher 3.
Then after you're done with that, and still need to scratch the RPG itch... get Pillars of Eternity.
After that, maybe, just MAYBE, consider getting Dragon Age: Inquisition.
I enjoyed Dragon Age: Inquisition but I haven't had any motivation to go back to it after finishing it. The combat was fun and the visuals were great but for some reason (I can't explain why) I would rather go back to DA:Origins instead.
I am playing Witcher 3 now and it's awesome. Time will tell whether it be the same case as Dragon Age:Inquisition (so far I am planning a second playthrough but that might change if I get bored).
I am playing Witcher 3 now and it's awesome. Time will tell whether it be the same case as Dragon Age:Inquisition (so far I am planning a second playthrough but that might change if I get bored).
Since this has become a direct comparison to Wither 3 (which makes sense, as it just came out), here's my list in order of personal enjoyment (most to least):
- Witcher 3
- Dragon Age: Origins
- Witcher 1
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Dragon Age 2
- Witcher 2
Obviously plenty will people will disagree with me, especially with DA2 not being at the bottom of the list, but that's my personal take on it. That being said I enjoyed all the games on the list, and have finished them all bar Witcher 3 (as I'm still going, and 100% is going to take me forever)
- Witcher 3
- Dragon Age: Origins
- Witcher 1
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Dragon Age 2
- Witcher 2
Obviously plenty will people will disagree with me, especially with DA2 not being at the bottom of the list, but that's my personal take on it. That being said I enjoyed all the games on the list, and have finished them all bar Witcher 3 (as I'm still going, and 100% is going to take me forever)
I'm highly amused by the fact that your list (outside of Witcher 3 which I haven't played at all) is more or less a total inversion of my own, except with swapping the two "2" games around and the two "1" games around (I'd rather DA2 better than Witcher 2 on the simple basis that I've actually completed DA2 but wasn't compelled to do that for Witcher 2 yet; and I find Witcher 1 to be even worse than DAO).Zenoss said:
Regardless the point still stands even if you invert it, DAI is somewhat painfully mediocre. Definitely not worth the asking price.
Bioware writing has suffered immeasurably in the last while. I'm not sure what happened, maybe they've bought into their own hype and have become complacent but they have the wrong people writing now. They do good characters but miserable stories with bland, uninspired themes. DA:I is a by the numbers RPG that is entertaining in parts but largely a dull grind to find those few moments. If you love RPGs get it when it's on special else I wouldn't bother.
It wasn't that great. The combat was very dull; you fight every enemy the same way, and very rarely is there anything more 'tactical' than 'Hold auto-attack and press skills when they're ready' unless you put it up to the highest difficulty, where it suffers from being very slow (There are fights every few seconds, and they're all rather monotonous. Even basic enemies have a crapload of health) and having an awful AI system.
The character progression isn't interesting. You only get 8 skill slots to use, so you fill those up quickly and then it's just little passives that you never really notice. The story is very weak; you're the Chosen One and only you can save the world, so it's a good thing you have Bioware Charisma and literally everyone is willing to follow you to death from the get-go.
Some of it is entertaining, and it's not a bad game; it can be enjoyable to see the various architectures and explore the caves and stuff; it's better for exploration than 1 and 2, since those games were linear. But the world isn't fascinating or immersive, and the non-party NPCs are very forgettable.
If you're looking for a thought-provoking story, a complex combat system or a vast, bountiful world, then this game will disappoint. But if you just want a basic RPG to muck around with, it's not too bad. I don't regret playing it, but I do regret buying it.
Addendum: if you do play it, do yourself a favour and plough through the Hinterlands (One of the first zones you find) main story as quickly as possible. It's one of the worst zones in the game and made me want to quit. The game picks up after that. Another protip: Don't bother collecting the skulls. No storyline stuff there, the rewards are negligible except for max difficulty, and it's unforgivably grindy.
Captcha: swirling vortex of entropy. I'm sure that's a spell name..
The character progression isn't interesting. You only get 8 skill slots to use, so you fill those up quickly and then it's just little passives that you never really notice. The story is very weak; you're the Chosen One and only you can save the world, so it's a good thing you have Bioware Charisma and literally everyone is willing to follow you to death from the get-go.
Some of it is entertaining, and it's not a bad game; it can be enjoyable to see the various architectures and explore the caves and stuff; it's better for exploration than 1 and 2, since those games were linear. But the world isn't fascinating or immersive, and the non-party NPCs are very forgettable.
If you're looking for a thought-provoking story, a complex combat system or a vast, bountiful world, then this game will disappoint. But if you just want a basic RPG to muck around with, it's not too bad. I don't regret playing it, but I do regret buying it.
Addendum: if you do play it, do yourself a favour and plough through the Hinterlands (One of the first zones you find) main story as quickly as possible. It's one of the worst zones in the game and made me want to quit. The game picks up after that. Another protip: Don't bother collecting the skulls. No storyline stuff there, the rewards are negligible except for max difficulty, and it's unforgivably grindy.
Captcha: swirling vortex of entropy. I'm sure that's a spell name..
If you are unsure if you want to get DA:I, then wait for some kind of special offer and/or the inevitable edition with all dlc inside.
All of this. The level to which Witcher 3 outshines Inquisition is frankly absurd. This is coming from someone who managed to overlook most of Inquisition's flaws. Seeing Witcher 3 now though... when you look at the budget and dev times, and what they presented with those resources, it just makes me think nearly every other developer is simply incompetent.BloatedGuppy said:
Only just started Witcher 3 and it's... probably a bit better than Dragon Age but not to the insane level folks seem to think. Combat is still edging on the bluh, fall damage is crazy and a lot of the games shine comes from the really impressive and immersive story which is always going to be mileage-may-vary deal.
I still think Witcher 3 is better but there are perks to Dragon Age like multiple classes to choose from (though if you want Battle Mage rather than regular mage, Geralt really is a better version than Knight Enchanter even with the Shielding spells in DA) and if you liked the story in DA 1 and 2 this does a pretty cool job of carrying the narrative forward (so does Witcher but I kinda felt like DA:I did it better)
... and if you have a PS4 get Bloodborne instead. Because Bloodborne really was amazing.
I still think Witcher 3 is better but there are perks to Dragon Age like multiple classes to choose from (though if you want Battle Mage rather than regular mage, Geralt really is a better version than Knight Enchanter even with the Shielding spells in DA) and if you liked the story in DA 1 and 2 this does a pretty cool job of carrying the narrative forward (so does Witcher but I kinda felt like DA:I did it better)
... and if you have a PS4 get Bloodborne instead. Because Bloodborne really was amazing.
No, maybe if its really cheap. For me the characters were boring apart from that cockney elf girl and Ironbull. Game world is split into zones which are there just to gain experience and do side missions - i dont remember any main missions being done in those zones. For me i preferred the stories in DA2, they were more interesting and involving that i played through the game a few times even though it had many bad points. Could not be bothered to replay DAI. It had a boring story, most of the characters just spout lore and so much mediocre stuff and lots of filler. Its not all bad, just the great bits are few and far between.
If money isnt an issue. Get Witcher 3 now.
If money isnt an issue. Get Witcher 3 now.
Yeah, money isn't always a cure-all for a good game or even high production values. Money can't replace talent or enthusiasm. My favorite FPS of last-gen by and far is Metro Last Light but that entire game was made with the budget that couldn't even finance a few cutscenes in your average EA/Activision shooter(despite being a million times better and more atmospheric).TT Kairen said:
Anyways as for DA:I most people that enjoy the game do so for that typical Bioware type of storytelling and characterization. I liked Mass Effect and all but that is pretty much the only Bioware game that ever appealed to me. DA:I looks incredibly boring from a gameplay perspective.
Like other said go for The Witcher 3. This is one of the best RPGs I ever played. Or one of the best games period. So much care and attention to detail has been put into almost every facet of its design, its absolutely amazing. Espescially considering how enormously huge this game is, with every minute spent playing it just being pure quality.