Should organ donation be manditory?

[Shio]

You're welcome to your bandwagon.

I'm not sure where you got that from, but you do seem to have a penchant for baseless suppositions.

Didn't you just make a comment about myself supposedly sidestepping something? Yeah, you did. Odd that you then ignore my point.

I adressed your comment, read the whole post rather than the first line, it helps sometimes.

I don't count "I'm not sure where you got that from, but you do seem to have a penchant for baseless suppositions" as addressing the comment.

If you're going to try this pointless back and forth, we're done.

Ciao, hun.

 

[KosherKrackers]

You're welcome to your bandwagon.

I'm not sure where you got that from, but you do seem to have a penchant for baseless suppositions.

Didn't you just make a comment about myself supposedly sidestepping something? Yeah, you did. Odd that you then ignore my point.

I adressed your comment, read the whole post rather than the first line, it helps sometimes.

I don't count "I'm not sure where you got that from, but you do seem to have a penchant for baseless suppositions" as addressing the comment.

If you're going to try this pointless back and forth, we're done.

Ciao, hun.

And nothing of value was lost.

I went on to explain my stance, rather than riding a bandwagon, again, the whole post.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

Not in the slightest bit.
Though I'd like to think more people should do it........ no one has the right to take body parts away from you without your consent, especially after death

 

[badmunky64]

While I don't think it should be mandatory I think there should be some kind of reward or benefit for it.

I'm already signed up to be an organ donor and I'm basically doing it because I won't need them when I'm dead. However, I'd like to know that my donation can lead up to a death tax write-off or something for my family.

I don't know about you but your avatar scares me with the subject of organ donating (Pinkie Pie's Smile is just to creepy for the subject matter at hand -_-.

She wants your organs

 

[ShakyFiend]

Yes.

Spoiler: and this is why

 

[NightlyNews]

America doesn't have a blood shortage. I'm AB+ my friend is O+ and gives all the time, but my blood is significantly less valuable and I get headaches every time I give blood.

Why in the hell should it be mandatory to take my significantly less valuable blood? Trust me in emergency situations where they don't have time to test or simply don't trust testing your blood they'd just use my friends anyway.

America, nay the world doesn't have a blood shortage...yeah and I'm Santa Claus; listen man, I don't know about America but most certainly here in UK there is a blood shortage I mean there are advertisements all over the place for blood donors and I would well believe the statistics that say 90% of people don't give blood as when I went into the blood donor in the town hall, it looked like a ghost town.

You obviously haven't been in hospitals too often to see the repercussions of peoples stupidity and lack on interest in donating a totally regenerative part of our bodies...I think you're kind of missing my point here completely, I get that some types of blood are "less valuable" than others, but even at that it's still ludicrous that in this country that has free health care that people wouldn't give back in one way or another.

You can tell me I'm having a rant and I'm narrow minded (which if you did I would laugh in your face) but as someone who's been in hospital plenty of times, I can appreciate the need for blood.

Congrats you've stepped in a hospital and therefore know everything about blood shortages.

We can and should be able to freeze excess blood until it is needed, but seeing as this technology isn't needed we just replace the old blood every 5-6 weeks when it goes bad. They are literally collecting more blood than they need because it is cheaper than investing in any technology that would actually preserve what they take. If it ever got to a point in a hospital where we couldn't keep people alive due to a true and catastrophic shortage all it would do is force those idiots in billing that relying on donations is a stupid fucking system.

When a hospital believes that an upcoming event will require more blood they merely tell the media to advertise that a possible shortage could happen if their donations dipped during that time. However, it is much sexier to report on an imminent lack of blood that is going to kill everyones grandmas. Obviously the hospitals don't give a shit that this is an exaggeration because it ensures they have enough blood.

I'm not saying don't give blood. However, the stupid fucking companies -and never forget thats what hospitals are first- are pretty much using you as blood mules because they refuse to invest in technology to actually preserve what they collect.

Source: my sisters a nurse, my dad runs a hospital in Connecticut (granted he doesn't actually have anything to do with blood merely the financial and upkeep parts of it), and a combat medic uncle.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I'd say Hell no... The government and health service should not be able to force anything onto citizens. It should be opt out as default, then you can choose to offer up your organs and if you die before making any choice, you don't get hacked up for salvage.

 

[Luthir Fontaine]

I'd say Hell no... The government and health service should not be able to force anything onto citizens. It should be opt out as default, then you can choose to offer up your organs and if you die before making any choice, you don't get hacked up for salvage.

Plan to use those organs after your dead?

 

[Arehexes]

I'd say Hell no... The government and health service should not be able to force anything onto citizens. It should be opt out as default, then you can choose to offer up your organs and if you die before making any choice, you don't get hacked up for salvage.

...I thought the default is opt-in not opt-out

 

[farscythe]

as long as the option to opt out is there.. im for it

i reserve the right to be burried with all my bits if i so please

 

[DirgeNovak]

I can't think of many religions that would say no, but I don't know much about any of them except my own.

However, are you saying that it should be mandatory after death or during life? Call me selfish, but during life I want to keep my organs intact.

I think that Islam has a rule against being cut open post-mortom (surprisingly, Google Chrome doesn't have the correct spelling of "Mortom").

That's because it's spelled mortem.

 

[dvd_72]

Belgium does have an opt-out rather than an opt-in system, so without a card saying you're not a doner your organs will be used to save lives. In my opinion, that's how things should be.

 

[lord.jeff]

To all the opt-outs:

London Zoo is looking for some fresh meat to feed their animals and they'd quite like your corpse once the organs have been removed. You'd be helping to feed some animals that will die without your help, so we've decided that if you don't want your corpse fed to the hungry tigers, all you have to do is visit London Zoo once before you die.

That's only fair, isn't it? I mean, you wouldn't want those poor animals to die - and you're not using the rest of your body, are you?

Spoiler: This could be you, helping keep these majestic beasts alive!

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See why appeals to humanity don't work?

I'm okay with this, my plan for my body after I die is donate organs to hospitals and whatever can't be used is instead going to be used as a medical cadaver in schools, and whatever is left over after that gets cremated. I have no use for any of my body once I'm died it can be used to feed animals if that's what is wanted.

I like the opt-out idea, it would still increase the amount of organs and the potential to save lives and people still have a choice, so what if you have to go out of your way to sign an extra piece of paper for that choice if your so lazy that you cant do that then you really don't deserve a choice.

 

[Sayvara]

Organ donation should be opt-out... at least in any kind of civilized country that has universal healthcare.

In countries with private healthcare... heck, let's make it mandatory (no opt-out) and watch the hospitals fight over the corpses just for fun.

/S

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

And you know this for a fact because...? Oh you don't, nobody does. Might want to pipe down then, huh? All we know is that we don't know what happens after Death. There are beliefs, nothing more. Your belief is quite obvously that you pretty much cease to exist, but now your ramming your belief down other peoples throats. So, STFU? Yeah that would probably be for the best.

Of course, you are correct; we know nothing about death and what happens after.

However, we KNOW that there are people alive today who may need the organs of the recently deceased much more than their former owners do.

We can only speculate about whether you need your organs after death, but we KNOW that there are people still living who, as far as we know, definitley need them more than you.

You're really suggesting that we let living people die because we think that the dead MABYE need their organs after death?

You don't NEED the Internet. You don't NEED electricity. You don't NEED Video Games. They are ALL your selfish Wishes. So, get off your high Horse. You are no better then the ''selfish'' person that disagrees with giving someone else their Organs. Far worse, you and those akin to your line of thought haven't had much of a problem as painting anyone objecting as Murderers.

Very true, they are my 'selfish wishes'.

However, I'm not suggesting that anybody give anything away that they need in life.

After I'm dead, I'd be happy for any of the stuff that was my 'selfish wish' in life to be taken by other people.

Your argument is moot because I am not arguing that ANYBODY should have to give stuff away while they are alive. Merely what, as far as we know, they do not need in death.

I will stay on my high horse, because I'm not asking anybody to give up anything that they will want at the time of it being taken. If you are dead, your organs are no longer required to keep you alive. Therefore, lacking any other information, we can assume that it is entirely possible that they can be given to someone who PROVABLY needs them more than you.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

If you dont have one you wouldnt be a donor. Since most of the population get one its why the donor issue is already attached to it.

Don't have either, am still a donor.

And how are you too blind to see that a form in a box you just throw away, or click past is different then a form you HAVE TO FILL OUT AND SIGN.

So you do read every form that you fill in and sign. Completely?

Are you too young to have a license/id? Cause when your 21 I bet you want to get one, even if you don't drive. (Or drinkin age in your applicable country)

40. Never had a driving licence. Never had an ID. Been drinking since *ahem*. Have a donor card. Gave blood once and was banned from doing it again.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

the gm

GM?

does say that he means a opt-out system so every person would have the chance to opt out,

Apart from those unable to - or those guilt-tripped/delayed into not doing so.

and to answer your question, yes, why? because they are dead so they can't exactly judge me or feel hurt by what I am doing. I mean people could say they will bury you (or what ever you want to happen to your corpse) but they could end up stuffing it and using it has a coat hanger, you wouldn't know and it wouldn't affect you.

I'm pretty sure that their friends wouldn't be too happy using it to hang their coats on though.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

if your so lazy that you cant do that then you really don't deserve a choice.

Really? Don't you think that's just a little heartless? (irony alert)

Think this topic is wearing thin now anyway, so I'll just say that I believe it's better to act upon a call to donate, rather than a duty.

Let's face it - if you're requiring someone to register for their freedom, haven't you already crushed it?

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Let's face it - if you're requiring someone to register for their freedom, haven't you already crushed it?

So if I put you in prison and gave you a form to sign which would result in your immediate release, your freedom is crushed?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Let's face it - if you're requiring someone to register for their freedom, haven't you already crushed it?

So if I put you in prison...

Crushed.

Giving me a way out afterwards is still indebting me, and doesn't breed goodwill.