SimCity Trailer Shows Off Pre-Order Incentives

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SimCity Trailer Shows Off Pre-Order Incentives


The Heroes and Villains set lets you unleash super heroes and organized crime on your city.

Pre-order incentives have pretty much become the norm for games these days, with developers often dangling a tantalizing carrot of exclusive digital content for fans dedicated enough to put their money down early. SimCity is no different, and the latest trailer for EA's city builder shows us the Heroes and Villains set that will be included free in the "limited edition" of the game. The set will allow players to place buildings that unlock "criminal masterminds" and "supreme superheroes" and follow their exploits throughout the city.

The trailer shows arch-rivals "Dr. Vu" and "Maxis Man" as they cause havoc throughout a city. Dr. Vu's Evil Lair generates funds for the player with his high-tech research, but comes with the downside of an occasional act of terrorism. Thankfully, upgrading a police center to Maxis Man's Super HQ brings in a superhero to keep Dr. Vu's exploits in check.

The Heroes and Villains set comes free in both the limited and digital deluxe editions of the game. EA have not announced just how "limited" the limited edition will be, or how much the set will cost separately (if it's even available at all), so for now you can presume that pre-ordering is the only way to secure it. You can pre-order the game from EA's SimCity website [http://www.simcity.com/en_US/buy], on Origin, or through various retailers. The digital deluxe edition also comes with the French, German and British city set.

SimCity is the 5th game in the SimCity franchise, following SimCity 4 in 2003. It will be released for the PC on March 5 and the Mac a little later. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/119054-SimCity-Wreaking-Havoc-on-Mac-in-Early-2013]

Source: EA Official Youtube Channel [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lFmi6vVLCLA]

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VanQ

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I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
 

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SimCity is the 5th game in the SimCity franchise, following SimCity 4 in 2003. It will be released for the PC on March 5 and the Mac a little later.
I just love that we've forgotten ... that other SimCity game. Did not deserve the name.
 

RA92

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SimCity? More like SimVille.

Maybe they'll release paid DLCs that will let you terraform, or build cities that are larger than the current 2km x 2km size. Or let you fucking load your save files from a previous point.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
VanQQisH said:
I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
HERETIC! Do not question the will of the cloud!
Raiyan 1.0 said:
SimCity? More like SimVille.
Maybe Zynga can sue them and use the settlement to get back on it's feet. That always works right?

OT: The graphics kind remind me of Buzz Lightyear
The graphics still don't look right to me as well, something just seems off.

Also at least if this bombs I can always go back to Anno 2070
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
SimCity? More like SimVille.

Maybe they'll release paid DLCs that will let you terraform, or build cities that are larger than the current 2km x 2km size. Or let you fucking load your save files from a previous point.
In an interview, Ocean Quiggly already said the reason that there's no terraforming is because they wanted it to be a slight more realistic "deal with the land that you have". This is also dealt with in-game by roads and buildings doing cut-a-ways into the land as needed to conform to the shape of the lands, hills, and so on. Bridges, tunnels, and the like will show up when needed to fit the game.

The largest city size is going to be 2km by 2km, don't expect larger. It's large enough for people in the last beta to get 100,000+ citizens with over 2/3rds the buildings locked down. Maxis has stated that several of their in-house testers have gotten 1million population in their cities, so it's not that difficult.

As for loading/saving, they're not pussyfooting around on this one. The cities are going to be a living, breathing thing that's interactive with the other cities in the region. Don't like your city? Either A) abandon it for a different plot in that region, or B) demolish it and start from scratch. To want to "load" because you've messed up on a specific aspect of your city is kind of a weak thing to do.
 

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How will heroes and villains impact gameplay? Will it significantly change the core gameplay, or just be an fairly minor addition? Honestly, I don't think I find myself too excited for either possibility.

VanQQisH said:
I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
From what I understand (and there's a chance they flat out lied about this to save face), it's not just cloud saves or always-online; most of the actual simulation is also done on the server. The whole server-client model means that releasing an offline version wouldn't be as simple as flipping a DRM switch, and would require a significant amount of reworking of the game engine, and possibly its mechanics if they want to target lower end PCs that can't handle that much simulation at full speed.

But again, they might've been lying.

Raiyan 1.0 said:
SimCity? More like SimVille.

Maybe they'll release paid DLCs that will let you terraform, or build cities that are larger than the current 2km x 2km size. Or let you fucking load your save files from a previous point.
I think the idea is that if a player feels too limited, they can start more cities in the same region and make a single functional unit out of them. Not as good as having large cities to begin with, but I think it'll have roughly the same net effect.

ThreeKneeNick said:
I just love that we've forgotten ... that other SimCity game. Did not deserve the name.
Y'know, back in 2001 there was a game in development called SimsVille, which would've been somewhere between The Sims and SimCity in scale. The idea was to run an entire neighborhood, building items and services to attract sims rather than directly controlling them. It was canceled, in part because playtesters and people who saw it at E3 found it to be boring and too hands-off for a Sims game and too hands-on for a SimCity game, a game that really had no idea what it wanted to be.

I've long suspected Societies started out as a project to rework SimsVille and bring it to market. While not the same game by a long shot, it seems to have many of the same core concepts and fundamental flaws that come with focusing on sims without controlling them.

As an aside, I looked into Tilted Mill Entertainment, the company responsible for Societies, since Maxis couldn't be bothered to do it themselves (they were busy with Spore at the time). They have almost exclusively produced crap, with their best products being merely mediocre. I can understand hiring an outside studio for a game, but it'd be nice if EA had done a bit of vetting to make sure they were hiring a decent outside studio.

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Shouldn't they be making these offers more intuitive for those that already pre-ordered? Maybe they would like to upgrade...morons.
 

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Deathfish15 said:
As for loading/saving, they're not pussyfooting around on this one. The cities are going to be a living, breathing thing that's interactive with the other cities in the region. Don't like your city? Either A) abandon it for a different plot in that region, or B) demolish it and start from scratch. To want to "load" because you've messed up on a specific aspect of your city is kind of a weak thing to do.
I usually used the save as an excuse to spam disasters when I got bored/for the LOL's.

I mean what the point of building a virtual city if you can't make it explode spectacularly!
 

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VanQQisH said:
I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
Here here. They've convinced themselves in the same way Nintendo wanted you to experience every thing in a new way (like they did with the Wii). It seems the future is less about convenience/options and more about forcing people to socialise with others.

Hope it ends up like Diablo 3 so they learn their lesson, or a magic alternative game you could invest in and then give the finger to this.
 

Antari

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Theres the final straw for me. They are just going to turn it into a DLC queen. Too many bad ideas all disguised as a good game. Looks like the biggest landmine of 2013. I'm not stepping anywhere near it.
 

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Draech said:
VanQQisH said:
I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
While I sympathize with your aussie situation, the games key feature around multiple city builds and coop is build around the online mechanic the same way a MMO is build around a server hosted off site.

Yeah that sucks, but it would be a different game in design or 2 completely different builds in order to make it work singleplayer as well as multiplayer.

I really dont see an elegant solution to this.
there is an elegant solution: dont make games that make us rely on other players and let their stupidity spill into our city.
ANd if you do, at least make it a new ip and let it bomb and not ruin a decent IP.
 

Strazdas

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Draech said:
Strazdas said:
Draech said:
VanQQisH said:
I really want to give you my money for this, EA! Take out the stupid always online and cloud saves and I'll throw it at you! All I want is to be able to save my data locally, that's all. I don't want to have to rely on my shitty Australian internet to play your game.
While I sympathize with your aussie situation, the games key feature around multiple city builds and coop is build around the online mechanic the same way a MMO is build around a server hosted off site.

Yeah that sucks, but it would be a different game in design or 2 completely different builds in order to make it work singleplayer as well as multiplayer.

I really dont see an elegant solution to this.
there is an elegant solution: dont make games that make us rely on other players and let their stupidity spill into our city.
ANd if you do, at least make it a new ip and let it bomb and not ruin a decent IP.
As a guy who enjoyed multiple MMO's and still buy games that are only enjoyable in coop (Dungeon Defenders) I find the notion of completely ignoring this type of design to be terribly shortsighted.

If they should have made it a new IP is an entirely different question. There are multiple sides to that in that the gaming market is VERY vary of new IP and sales will suffer as a result, while at the same time being very confident in retreading of old ground making the whole yearly releases possible. The issue lies in "are you willing to risk making a new IP or are you going to risk not being enough like the last one".
I too enjoy multiple MMOS (though i dislike coops), however why MMOs work and this doesnt is that MMOs are designed to be MMOs, not singleplayer city building simulators that get shafted into multiplayer because "must havem ultiplayer to sell" belief.
 

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Pre-Order, huh? The last time I pre-ordered a city building game(Cities XL), I got some "radical" clothing for my avatar, and huge monuments, which I COULDN'T BUILD, BECAUSE THE DAMN SEVERS WENT DOWN and it was a multilayer-only feature. I'm sure, that SimCity 5 will have similar problems.