Sims 3 Broken...or am I overreacting?

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Ok this is sort of my way of venting but also asking for help so if you dont want to read about my sorrow (T_T) just skip to the end and I wont hold it against you.

I am a long-time fan of the Sims. I was a late comer to the first Sims game but I played Sims 2 from the beginning and derived many many hours of enjoyment from playing it (I especially liked that paranormal aspects which are greatly reduced in Sims 3). The Sims games have always been the kind of game that I play for a while and then stop after a while and spend a few months playing other games but then after a while I suddenly get the urge to go back and play again.

When Sims 3 came out I got it and was amazed by the improvements over Sims 2 (open neighborhood, more freedom in create a sim including the new traits system, etc) but I was also disappointed by the content that made the Sims 2 so much fun which was reduced or taken out (paranormal aspects like aliens are gone while others like ghosts are no longer a potential threat and are at worst now a minor annoyance, plus no more crazy aspiration reward objects like that one machine that could make your sim crave grilled cheese and what not). Still it was a lot of fun and I enjoyed playing it just as I did Sims 2.

When World Adventures came out I bought it too and I enjoyed most of the new content especially martial arts and photography. It was a lot of fun trying to fill the photo collections...up until the point when I realized there was a bug where certain subjects in the collection would not register when I took pictures of them thus making it impossible to complete certain collections. Whatever it was a minor bug and I can deal with it.

Then I bought Ambitions and installed it to find it buggy as heck. A good deal of the content like Consignment stores simply did not work and this pissed me off even more because there is no way a tester could possibly miss that, especially considering it was one of the new features that should be tested more than others. Of course what does EA care? Once you find the bug they already have your money. Worse the professions (ghost hunters, investigators, fire fighters, etc) were mostly just the same point-and-click adventures that WA had only without the exotic locales and tombs filled with traps and treasure to make it excited. No all this was replaced with freaking text boxes. At this point I came to a realization, EA clearly doesnt care enough to actually test their games before they send them out and I refuse to pay for a Beta product. I swore I would not by Late Night and then EA went "oh but we have Vampires now" to which I replied "...shit."

So I got Late Night and found EA got me again. The big pull of the game for me, Vampires, were practically defanged (or alternately run through the Twilight ringer). Vampires in Nightlife were much much better and EA didnt even have to mess with them, just give them an update. Worse the celibrity system quickly got old as I discovered most every sim in the city was some kind of celebrity and so I couldnt just be an average sim, nope even a sim working in the grocery store now has to be a celebrity and get followed around by Paparazzi. This led me to conclude that EA never actually had a planning meeting to consider how their new features might affect the game. So then I go "well EA you got me twice but you wont fool me a 3rd time" to which they replied "Ah but Generations will have those private schools you liked so much in Sims 2", and I went "You clever bastards..."

So I got Generations and while it is easily my favorite expansion so far due to the sheer amount of content added to the base game (not the least of which being the ability to have children and teens attend after school activities and allowing you to change how long life stages last which means I can finally make the toddler stage short without having my other sims age too much) but the promised private schools were not what I had imagined. In Sims 2 I always like the little "challenge" where you invited a dean over to your house and showed him around and served him dinner to have your kid get into private school and I was expecting something similar. Nope, now you just use the phone and send your kid offscreen for a while and they come back an adult. Way to be lazy EA! You have created a feature where you basically send a sim offscreen till they age up and sold it to me.

Well now last weekend the Sims bug bit me again and I reinstalled Sims 3 and the expansions on my computer (minus Late Night as the celebrity system broke the game for me). I first wanted to create a sort of journalist/photographer sim and go and take a bunch of photos. I finally get a camera and take a photo...nothing, my sim just sits there with the take photo action queued up but does nothing and I cant cancel the action. I looked online and found a bunch of people were having this problem and there was no fix for it so in other words I had to give up my plans to have my sim work on photography.

Alright thats a set back but the other day I thought about how much I enjoyed World Adventures and how I had never quite finished all the quests or built a Cursed Sarcophagus and all that. So I went last night and created a sort of Lara Croft Tomb Raider Sims with auburn hair and an awesome tomb raiding outfit. I put her in the neighborhood and built a house with a deck and car port and most importantly a basement with torches and stone walls and floors to give it the feel of a tomb that I could hide all my treasure in and stuff. So then I start the game proper. Neighbors come over and I deal with them. Got my sim a job, worked on boosting athletics, etc. Then I finally saved up enough money to go to China so I could start learning Martial Arts. I send my Sim off and she flies to China via Loading Screen Airways...however the plane must have crashed somewhere along the line because when China loads, nothing. She is gone, she doesnt even appear in the little Sim bar where they show the sims portrait. She is complete gone. I reload the game and find that my sim disappeared from the neighborhood too. It is as if she never existed at all.



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At this point I found myself shouting "FAIL!" at my monitor (poor monitor gets blamed for everything). There is no excuse whatsoever that could explain how EA could possibly have missed this bug unless I am doing something wrong or they simply do not test patch releases anymore because why bother, they already have my money. How on Earth can you miss a bug where your sim disappears if you travel to a location? I went online and found lots of people had the same problem and recently too so its not just me and its not one that there seems to be a fix for. So with photography and the ability to go on vacation not working thats practically most of the content for World Adventures gone.

So to discuss, first I want to thank you for letting me get this off my chest. Second does anyone know of any way to fix or work around the photography or travel bugs I mentioned above? Third, am I just overreacting and expecting to much by actually believing that a game should do what its supposed to and that developers have a responsibility to make sure a product they sold me actually works (minor bugs I could understand but not huge game breaking ones like this that remove large chunks of content). Fourthly...I am worried now that I am going to get suckered in by Pets just to see the Grim Reaper riding around on a black horse and silly things like that. Like an alcoholic I may need help saying no to EA and telling them that I wont pay for any more of their broken games until they prove that they can release a game that isnt broken.

I really want to enjoy Sims 3 but EA is making that nearly impossible. Everytime I start some big plan in the game they throw a bug at me that makes that plan impossible to achieve. To make matters worse Sims 3 has made Sims 2 unplayable for me. I actually reinstalled Sims 2 a few days ago and played it like I used to but found that I was noticing the graphical downgrade and the lack of a free roaming neighborhood too much. Its really depressing to see nostalgia torn apart like that so I hope I can bring myself to get the Sims 3 to actually work so I can enjoy it.
 

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I think a game like the Sims is instintively buggy (remember most Bethseda games) to some point, at least until its all been patched up. However, it seems like EA's not even bothering with that. Try sending EA a ton of emails and get other people who are having problems with it to spam them too. Hopefully they'll patch the game completely in an act of atrition.

I too have played Sims off and on; I think that's pretty much how most people play it. Currently I've stopped playing it, mostly because my poor old desktop has trouble with it. While playing it, though, I too suffered problems that seemed to be a big problem with other people.
1) My Sims wouldnt die- Now, I'm the kind of person who plays the Sims to SIMulate real life. In one game I disigned my real family in the game just to see how far I can get. My plan was to keep the oldest member of the generation in the active house, raise kids, send all the other kids off when they're married, let the mommy and the daddy die in the house, put their grave stone in the back yard, and repeat. My plan hit a snag when I got to the Mommy and the Daddy dying. Their aging gauges were completely full yet they were still alive. I did get the "Reanimate a loved one" oprotinity for both my parents, but they were still alive, so I guess something's still working, kind of. After I couple WEEKS (in game), I decided that I need the space in the house, so I built a furnice/gas chamber and killed the Sim modelled after my mom. See what you make me do EA?! Then the game had the nerve to give all my Sims the "Tragic Death" moodlet and call my Dad single. Fuck You EA, he is a widower now, and that wasnt tragic it was expected, because she's old.

2) You cant be married and keep your maiden name- So I started playing again after I got a GF (this was after Nightlife came out). I made Young Adult Sims for both of us, and put us both in a one bedroom apartment in the city. I decided to make us married, thinking it'll happen eventually (in game) anyways, and because they age like 1000x faster then us. My Sim became a talented musican and celebrity. Well, it eventually came the time to settle down, but when I tried making babies the game gave all three of us the "Child Born out of Wed-lock" negetive moodlet, because despite the game having the relationship status set to "Married" it still didnt recognize it because I gave my GF character her last name instead of mine. Now my celebrity is ruined, the whole city thinks my wife is a whore, and that my child is a bastard.
 

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I think sims is just one of those franchises (like Fallout) that will always be buggy. Maybe it?s a curse or something. I?ve only really been dipping into 3 once in a while and usually only get as far as building a house or something but my wife has been having all sorts of issues with sims3. The saving system seems broken, the only way we can get them to work is to make a new save every time we save. Then you have to go and delete the extras because the files are so damn huge. She also had issues with World Adventures: both with the sim not arriving to the location but also with sims unable to leave the vacation. There?s a bunch of problems with that game and I?m not sure why they don?t fix it.
Maybe it?s because they do already have your money. Maybe they know that people are going to keep buying the stuff anyway. Well, they?re wrong. My wife stopped getting the expansions when it became clear that the game was going to remain a mess and she claims (though I?ll believe it when I see it) that she wont be getting sims 4 if they don?t ever fix 3.
But she?s also fed up with buying the same expansions over and over. She thinks that sims 3 should?ve already had the ?regular expansions? (open for business/ambitions, nightlife, pets) built in so they can come up with expansions that are actually new and not just rehashed versions of last gens expansions. It?s one of her favorite game franchises of all time but she?s starting to get tired of the usual runaround.
EA better watch themselves because I know she's not the only one sick of their BS.
 

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Yes Fallout can be buggy but not nearly on the same gamebreaking level as Sims 3 is. Heck the stuff that is breaking are things that could have worked fine in Sims 2 (getting to another area and taking photos) so what is EA's excuse?

Lets put it this way, I will probably still play the Pets expansion when it comes out but EA isnt getting any more of my money until they can prove they can make games that do what they are supposed to.

People mention Bethesda and yes they have buggy games alot but they actually get around to fixing them and rarely are the bugs so bad that the game is unplayable. Both Electronic Arts and Paradox have a nasty habit of just releasing games without seeming to care if they are unplayable or not. I think as long as they get our money they dont care how buggy their product is. Well jokes on them until they make games that actually work as advertised they arent getting any more of my money.
 

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I haven't had any real problems with The Sims 3 recently. I don't have World Adventures though (it's the only expansion I don't have), so that could be why. IDK.
 

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Allspice said:
I haven't had any real problems with The Sims 3 recently. I don't have World Adventures though (it's the only expansion I don't have), so that could be why. IDK.
Both my bugs which I listed are related to WA content but I know that before the latest patch I could access the content and EA doesnt have a system I am aware of to let you go back to the last working patch.
 

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Seekster said:
Allspice said:
I haven't had any real problems with The Sims 3 recently. I don't have World Adventures though (it's the only expansion I don't have), so that could be why. IDK.
Both my bugs which I listed are related to WA content but I know that before the latest patch I could access the content and EA doesnt have a system I am aware of to let you go back to the last working patch.
Yeah, I've heard the last patch broke photography. I just meant that even back when I went to buy The Sims 3, I saw so many people saying WA was awful in terms of the amount of glitches that happened after it was installed I bypassed it completely.
 

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Allspice said:
Seekster said:
Allspice said:
I haven't had any real problems with The Sims 3 recently. I don't have World Adventures though (it's the only expansion I don't have), so that could be why. IDK.
Both my bugs which I listed are related to WA content but I know that before the latest patch I could access the content and EA doesnt have a system I am aware of to let you go back to the last working patch.
Yeah, I've heard the last patch broke photography. I just meant that even back when I went to buy The Sims 3, I saw so many people saying WA was awful in terms of the amount of glitches that happened after it was installed I bypassed it completely.
I dont remember that, World Adventures worked fine for me after it was released (then again I cant remember if I got it immediately or held off so if I held off for a bit first that might be why). I do remember that Ambitions was extremely broken when it first came out.

If anyone hears of or knows of any possible fixes or work arounds to the bugs mentioned in this topic please post a link or explanation on how to go about fixing or getting around these problems. I really do want to enjoy Sims 3 but I get the feeling EA doesnt care.
 

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Seekster said:
Allspice said:
Seekster said:
Allspice said:
I haven't had any real problems with The Sims 3 recently. I don't have World Adventures though (it's the only expansion I don't have), so that could be why. IDK.
Both my bugs which I listed are related to WA content but I know that before the latest patch I could access the content and EA doesnt have a system I am aware of to let you go back to the last working patch.
Yeah, I've heard the last patch broke photography. I just meant that even back when I went to buy The Sims 3, I saw so many people saying WA was awful in terms of the amount of glitches that happened after it was installed I bypassed it completely.
I dont remember that, World Adventures worked fine for me after it was released (then again I cant remember if I got it immediately or held off so if I held off for a bit first that might be why). I do remember that Ambitions was extremely broken when it first came out.

If anyone hears of or knows of any possible fixes or work arounds to the bugs mentioned in this topic please post a link or explanation on how to go about fixing or getting around these problems. I really do want to enjoy Sims 3 but I get the feeling EA doesnt care.
Ambitions has always worked for me. :shrug:

I don't know about the bugs in WA, but there is a mod for the celeb thing in Late Night. It makes it so you actually have to work to become a celeb.
 

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I've actually never had any severe problems with Sims 3. Of course every so often a baby got stuck on a hand, and they'd wave it around like they were trying to cool a newly taken Polaroid picture; but other then that nothing huge, only one crash since I've had it (the first time a meteor hit the Sims-earth in W.A - my computer went, "WTF?!" for some reason), and I've never had to reinstall.

Generations and Ambitions were pretty close to what I had in mind for closer to Sims 2 content, without being the same. I enjoy Ambitions, a lot. Especially Mixologist. My sim spluttering out the drink she made because it was gross - priceless facial features. Generations was a great start towards more of what made me enjoy Sims 2.

I'm pretty sure I could have done without World Adventures, though.
 

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triggrhappy94 said:
2) You cant be married and keep your maiden name- So I started playing again after I got a GF (this was after Nightlife came out). I made Young Adult Sims for both of us, and put us both in a one bedroom apartment in the city. I decided to make us married, thinking it'll happen eventually (in game) anyways, and because they age like 1000x faster then us. My Sim became a talented musican and celebrity. Well, it eventually came the time to settle down, but when I tried making babies the game gave all three of us the "Child Born out of Wed-lock" negetive moodlet, because despite the game having the relationship status set to "Married" it still didnt recognize it because I gave my GF character her last name instead of mine. Now my celebrity is ruined, the whole city thinks my wife is a whore, and that my child is a bastard.

in Sims 3? Yes you can change your name back to your maiden name if you get married, just go to city hall and there's a Change Name option. Unless this isn't valid with the Nightlife expansion, I don't have it, but I can't see why they'd take that out of the game
 

RaphaelsRedemption

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I've never actually had a bug in the Sims 3. Except for once, when a firefighter got stuck in my house for a week. But even then, I worked out how to fix it.

Maybe I'm just lucky. But I really enjoy the game, in any case, and think it works pretty well for such a big game.
 

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i am in the same situation with gears 2 man, gears 2 added a lot of things that were really cool (less lag, some nice weapons, and things of that nature) but then just completely broke the game with stupid matchmaking, and things that were added for no reason that are annoying or just gamebreaking (snipershotguns, frag mines, 2 piece and overpowered hammerburst) and when i try going back to gears 1 all i can think about it the things it didnt have that gears 2 did
 

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I completely understand where you're coming from in reference to Sims 2 feeling like a better game. I love the ideas they had for the sims 3: traits, open neighbourhood (loading screens in the Sims 2 were a pain), more character customization.... But yet I still find myself preferring the Sims 2. I don't know exactly how things work at EA, or if Maxis even played a part in the Sims 3, but they were there for the sims 2, and the sims 2 for the most part rocked. I have yet to see any mention of Maxis when it comes to the sims 3, so I've been (possibly inaccurately) under the assumption they no longer have any creative power over the series, which consequently I think has been the downfall.

Sims 3 has been the buggiest game I have ever played. Period. I continue to question myself over why I have spent so much time smoothing out the glitches with fixes... I keep hoping the game will be worth it, but I always seem to find some new bug.

As for your specific problem, I'm sorry I've never encountered that before. :/ Have you gone into your Electronic Art/Sims 3/Saves folder and checked to see if there were any .corrupt ones you could delete? There are a lot of backwards fixes out there on the internet; they can just be ridiculously hard to find, so if you're adamant about fixing this yourself (which you no doubt shouldn't have to) I'm confident you can find some sort of solution.

The best of luck though, I'd say happy simming but who am I kidding?

I miss the Sims 2 BBS >.>
 

AnnaIME

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Sims 3 is really buggy. EA seems to have an erratic approach to fixing these bugs. Fortunately, there are others who make game-mending mods.

My personal go-tos:

http://www.modthesims.info/
http://www.the-isz.com/nraas/
 

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I never even liked Sims3. My sister and I played 1 and 2 like crazy, her husband gave her 3, and it just... died. None of us liked it. I still play 2. The only thing I want from 3 is the traits system, that was cool.
 

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I've always had a problem with the content (or lack thereof) in Sims 3. Buggyness aside, there are certain things that I would consider integral to just making a plain old house that they really should have included from the word go. Nothing fancy, that can go in the expansions, they need shiny fancy things to sell those, but what about normal, mundane but highly useful things. Specifically, what about curved staircases. I would say that close to 90% of all the multi-story houses I know in reality don't have a dead-straight staircase. They all have a landing part of the way up and turn 90degrees or more. I know this seems like a small thing, but there are lots of real houses that I'd like to make replicas of but can;t because of this problem. I would also love to be able to build proper split-level houses, but this has never been possible in any Sims games as far as I know.
 

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Tilted_Logic said:
I miss the Sims 2 BBS >.>
agreed, there are many things I like about the sims 3, but far more problems
I have to run the game with so many mods to get it to run in any kind of playable way that it takes about 30 minutes to start the game (I end up going off and making a cuppa whilst it loads)
 

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Tilted_Logic said:
Sims 3 has been the buggiest game I have ever played. Period. I continue to question myself over why I have spent so much time smoothing out the glitches with fixes... I keep hoping the game will be worth it, but I always seem to find some new bug.
I know what you mean man but even I have to admit that Paradox games tend to be buggier. I remember when Hearts of Iron 3 was released...they had to redefine the phrase "memory leak" to accurately describe how buggy that game was at first and I hear it is still bugged as heck now years after its release. Mount & Blade is good (especially Warband) but that was made by a different company and only published by Paradox I believe.

I understand that complex games have more that can go wrong but there are some bugs that are so obvious that the only way you could miss them is if your testing of the game involved making sure it installed and got you to the menu screen properly and thats it.

As for the Sims 2. I wish I could still enjoy it but I think Sims 3 spoiled me with its better graphics (at first glance it doesnt seem like much but I clearly noticed the difference), its more in-depth customization (not to mention the addition of the young adult stage) and most of all the open neighborhood which actually was implemented really well in Sims 3.

The problem is that the Sims has always been a game about immersion and nothing breaks immersion like a game breaking bug that makes it impossible for you to do what you originally set out to do with your sim.
 

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Agh lost sims, this gives me throwbacks to the original, entire neighbourhoods lost because every time I saved some bit of coding deep in the software deleted the new save.
From what I've seen and heard, this thread included has build a good enough case to stuck with 2, those little bastards have been going for a few years now, a bit like a socially inept ant farm, shame that having eery expansion slows my entire computer down by 1/5.