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[Sparkky]

It's not circumstance to take something that you don't need and don't have the consent/right to have. Bread, for the starving? Sure. Videogame for the bored? Nope.

I like to think of myself like you, only leaning towards the other side of the fence, probably due to the anecdotal success story that is my life
The only question I've got about your logic is that It doesn't seem to address the possibility that piracy positively effects the company.

Say if for example they were able to prove, conclusively, that piracy helped spread the market and was responsible for an increase in sales.
By your logic it appears that piracy would still be un-fair and wrong because even though the developer is making profit, the consumer acquired the game without deserving to(as per your usage of deserving). Is this true or am I confused about your statement?

In this case I would disagree as I think should piracy be found to make more money for the developer, piracy would be considered a positive thing, not a negative.

 

[Sigenrecht]

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/05/11/the_economics_of_star_trek/

I'd embolden some stuff, but I'm dead tired, using my last spark of life to breathe a few more pages of fire into this hilarious thread, hopefully.

 

[Bigsmith]

Right So, EA seams to be the one fueling the piracy problem. How do we know that EA didn't put it up there them selfs?!

 

[Dooklor]

if i wanted to watch people with down syndrome that i cant understand, i would visit my local 7 11

 

[Fluffy MCDOOM]

HaHa
pretty funny stuff
You have to love the pirates

 

[Mahha]

I realy don't know what is all the fuss about... This only means that more people will try the game and that out of that bunch more people will choose to buy it.

This can only mean that sales will go up when the game launches... unless if it's shit.

Oh most people don't shit golden bricks and don't have the money to buy every single title they want to play... So they realy don't have a choice... seling games for 70€ a piece must be a crime of some sort

 

[Fluffy MCDOOM]

I find it quite amusing that when there is DRM pirates are potrayed as heroes but when its gone the pirates are pure evil
Some people like me download a game of a torrent to see if it will work on my pc then i go and buy it. Give em a break

 

[Wickedshot]

Jesus was a pirate by todays standards, he made multiple copies of bread and fish and fed the masses. Public goods are a funny thing. I wonder if the bakers and fishermen were really the ones who turned him in.

 

[johnman]

Well now, don't get tetchy. While I'm unwilling to get into a pissing match and count, there seem to be just as many people on this thread who agree with me and who agree with you.

As far as I know, there isn't a form of DRM involving games that does not involve the writing of an image to a physical disk, and that is therefor a completely ineffectual form of piracy control.

If you cannot explain to me how Ea (or even EA) is not using their commercial success as an excuse to destroy a legitimate market, then I'm afraid that you have not presented an argument here.

DRM can be anything from requiring a serial number to forcing players to register their games and submitting to constant legitiacy tests. Steam for example is a form of DRM, and is seen as being a fairly successfull form at that. And as for the destorying the second hand market, well, no developer will be sad to see it disappear.

Um... No. I think you're expanding the definition of DRM beyond what is generally accepted. Steam is a formidable form of pirate-proof distribution but it is not considered Digital Rights Management.

Regardless of what developers may or may not want, they cannot claim to be innocent in this fight if they are willing to use indefensable tactics to destroy a legitimate market.

I never claimed that publishers were innocent in this, as i quite cleary stated at the end of my last post. And no, i havent expanded the definition of DRM, serials and programs such as Steam are forms of DRM.

I also see you got yourself placed on probation. Well done

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Lets put the idea of ethical piracy to bed. It doesn't exist. That doesn't mean it can't be quasi-justifiable, I mean, given up much of a teet suckling machine The Sims has been in the past... Would you blame people for wanting to check it out first?

Of course most are just doing it because they want lol free games. This is why I advocate REAL goddamn demo's that are a segment of the gameplay WITHOUT features missing. Once that is regular process, no more justification for piracy will remain except rarity (I still can't find Republic Commando ;-

 

[Chadling]

"Unconfirmed?" Pssh. One of my buddies that lives a couple of buildings over having downloaded it and playing the behemoth is plenty confirmation for me. And, no, I hate to inform you that even after being delayed for half a year, it?s still not complete?-within a day, after having made avatars of his friends at college, I somehow managed to get stuck in midair on the second floor, completely helpless and flailing in anger at the invisible hands above. He has no idea how he did that or how to fix it. I?m probably dead by now. And... with that in mind, there's probably going to be a massive patch mere days after the release, all because of their sloppy playtesting.

Personally, I have no interest in the game and even less interest in the fate of the faceless gray monster that is EA. Now, I'm-a gonna boot up TF2. Cheerio.

 

[Andy Chalk]

I know I said I was out but I really can't let this pass without comment.

Oh most people don't shit golden bricks and don't have the money to buy every single title they want to play... So they realy don't have a choice... seling games for 70€ a piece must be a crime of some sort

Of course people have a choice. They can choose to go without. They can choose to wait until they can afford the game, or until it drops into their price range.

Or they can choose to believe they have some god-given right to play every videogame they lay eyes on regardless of their ability or willingness, or lack thereof, to pay for them. You know where that sort of belief comes from? (Hint: Think entitlement.)

"I stole a loaf of bread to feed my hungry children" is a no-choice scenario. "I stole a copy of GTA IV because I blew my allowance on pogs and chewing gum?" Sorry, no.

 

[Sparkky]

Malygris, one question.
If there was to be evidence presented right now that proved conclusively that computer piracy has helped the videogame industry grow and is responsible for an increase in the sales of videogames.
What would your view on piracy be after learning about this news.

 

[Sparkky]

To be entirely honest; We're assuming here than pirates would have the honest intention of giving good word of mouth to a product and promoting it after they have already maliciously stolen it in the first place.

No, the only assumption I want you to make is that piracy helps the industry grow and increases profits.
Given that assumption do you think piracy is good or bad.