Sims 3 Leaked Online
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Hey, I'm not trying to justify it. I just thought the guy I was quoting from was worrying too much. Of course its a bad sign when a game this big is pirated, but is not going to put EA out of business.Susan Arendt said:
Everyone is using my "You don't have to be evil to be cheap or want free stuff" in their post. It makes me feel important, Yay!
Ok, I know a lot of the gaming community hates developers (some more then others), but gotta give them their dues when they create a game and manage to keep it good, producing profit and staying popular enough that they can create 20 expansion packs without someone saying 'Enough is enough'. So what kinda jerk would pirate one of these games? Especially as the release is only 2 weeks away.
Another thing I don't get - there's only a small number of people pirating it, right? So, who are they going to tell about it?! Is it just some kinda of fascination of wanting to find out about gameplay before everyone else or is it simply saving £30?
Another thing I don't get - there's only a small number of people pirating it, right? So, who are they going to tell about it?! Is it just some kinda of fascination of wanting to find out about gameplay before everyone else or is it simply saving £30?
Well, this is the "Slippery Slope" fallacy. He didn't say piracy should be okay or that it incurs no loss ever, he just explained that it is a complex issue which is different from the traditional definition of theft.Malygris said:
Update from the Buccaneer camp:
Stop calling us immoral when we just saved you a whole bunch of cash because the game is a bland copy of the Sims 2 and if you have that you won't need to buy or download this one unless you have a hardon for excessively restrictive DRM which you were promised that it didn't existed.
I hear you go "DRM you say? EA told us they got rid of that". Well, they lied and did the opposite.
Out of curiosity i tried to run the game without crack and was greeted with a message that i had no access to the internet and therefor no sims 3. So i turned off the firewall and tried again, resulting in a prompt asking me for another serial number. I cracked it after which i got access to a suprisingly sub-par game which offered nearly nothing but removed alot of things like the ability to build your own house from scratch. Turned it off in disgust and put the original .exe back in place. Suprise, it asked for another serial. So they went from online activation to having to log in with a 25 letter key on their master server every time you want to play from the looks of it.
Tell me, what is more immoral? Piracy or a company going "you'll be getting these features" before launch and after you give them your they say "haha suckers, we lied!, have fun with the spyware!" and refuse a refund.
One of them may or may not cause "lost sales" depending on who you ask and the other lies in your face and robs you.
UPDATE: The thing turned into a fucking virus when i attempted to uninstall it. The uninstall screen pops up but the game itself launches so that i can de-activate my key. The first does it's job for about 10% of the content before locking up because the game is running and the second exclaims that the installation is corrupted and disables every single button including Alt-F4. After forcibly rebooting my pc i try again and the same thing happens again. After that i added the game to the list of programs blocked by my antivirus and ran it again, after which Avast did what the provided de-installer couldn't.
Summary:
-Bad DRM.
-Bland game you most likely already own with a smaller number behind the name.
-Not just hype but blatant lies from the developer.
-Doesn't want you to get rid of it for any of the above reasons.
I'm with the side that has the most parrots on this one.
Stop calling us immoral when we just saved you a whole bunch of cash because the game is a bland copy of the Sims 2 and if you have that you won't need to buy or download this one unless you have a hardon for excessively restrictive DRM which you were promised that it didn't existed.
I hear you go "DRM you say? EA told us they got rid of that". Well, they lied and did the opposite.
Out of curiosity i tried to run the game without crack and was greeted with a message that i had no access to the internet and therefor no sims 3. So i turned off the firewall and tried again, resulting in a prompt asking me for another serial number. I cracked it after which i got access to a suprisingly sub-par game which offered nearly nothing but removed alot of things like the ability to build your own house from scratch. Turned it off in disgust and put the original .exe back in place. Suprise, it asked for another serial. So they went from online activation to having to log in with a 25 letter key on their master server every time you want to play from the looks of it.
Tell me, what is more immoral? Piracy or a company going "you'll be getting these features" before launch and after you give them your they say "haha suckers, we lied!, have fun with the spyware!" and refuse a refund.
One of them may or may not cause "lost sales" depending on who you ask and the other lies in your face and robs you.
UPDATE: The thing turned into a fucking virus when i attempted to uninstall it. The uninstall screen pops up but the game itself launches so that i can de-activate my key. The first does it's job for about 10% of the content before locking up because the game is running and the second exclaims that the installation is corrupted and disables every single button including Alt-F4. After forcibly rebooting my pc i try again and the same thing happens again. After that i added the game to the list of programs blocked by my antivirus and ran it again, after which Avast did what the provided de-installer couldn't.
Summary:
-Bad DRM.
-Bland game you most likely already own with a smaller number behind the name.
-Not just hype but blatant lies from the developer.
-Doesn't want you to get rid of it for any of the above reasons.
I'm with the side that has the most parrots on this one.
Hey pal I have bought 1million Sims expansions this one is on the house, I wanna trial it first and if its decent they will get their monies...Hithlain said:
EDIT: Most games without a demo are either shit or need stupid ammounts of patching and balancing cause the marketing team set a deadline before the game is bloody finished, or it is just Spore... just shit, or Fable 2 Peter Mono-shit lied to everyone, 2 good games I was utterly disappointed about. Gief demos and stop increasing prices (mark-up must be stupid) and hey if you were smart enough you would steal too. Dumbos who complain about pirating either cant do it or done have the balls.
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I was just thinking about a day before I saw the youtube advertisement "I really feel like playing a Sims game"
I'm not about to read all the pages for this thread so this might of been said already. But this game wouldn't have 25000 downloaders right now if it wasn't for the leak being so public. It may be a good topic to get traffic, but it made the firecracker turn into dynamite. If you are against piracy and would like to stop it, DON'T TELL EVERYONE AN EXTREMELY HYPED GAME IS LEAKED 2 WEEKS IN ADVANCE! Unless you frequent pirate sites, you would of never of known this game was leaked. I know I wouldn't have known.
And about DRM, people will break it. So my view on it is, if that's the case, don't bother with it. Lets say you make a living baking and selling pies. You have the good spot on the street and everyone can see you. You make a ton of money. Then you see your pies given out for free in a back alley. You suddenly sell your pies in a box with a lock on it, and when they buy it, you punch the customer in the face yelling "DON'T COPY ME *****". You continue seeing your pies given out for free, and some of the people who have them have black eyes. They are getting the same product for free and no punishment for giving you money to legitimately buy a pie. People are going to copy no matter having to take the punch to the face and break thru the locked box.
And about DRM, people will break it. So my view on it is, if that's the case, don't bother with it. Lets say you make a living baking and selling pies. You have the good spot on the street and everyone can see you. You make a ton of money. Then you see your pies given out for free in a back alley. You suddenly sell your pies in a box with a lock on it, and when they buy it, you punch the customer in the face yelling "DON'T COPY ME *****". You continue seeing your pies given out for free, and some of the people who have them have black eyes. They are getting the same product for free and no punishment for giving you money to legitimately buy a pie. People are going to copy no matter having to take the punch to the face and break thru the locked box.
I am all for pirates, but pirating music and games is beyond me. I think if I did I would do it less for the free stuff and more so I could shout "Yarr!" before having a giggle fit and going back to playing Neverwinter Nights or whatever my current obsession would be.
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Considering the amount of shite that comes out today, and doesn't have a demo to let you see if its any good its not really suprising.Hithlain said:
This now makes me wonder if theres a difference between illegal downloads of games that lack a demo and games that have one...