Sims 3 Leaked Online

Bigfoot_King

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I find it strange how EA are now seen as the good guys since they got rid of there DRM and the priates are back to being evil
 

Cousin_IT

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*sigh* nothing good can come of this, though hopefully they'll find & stamp down on the leak rather than retreat back into their DRM fortress.
 

Nimbus

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People seem to be forgetting that this most likely would have happened with or without DRM.
 

runtheplacered

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Malygris said:
Despite the high-minded claims of many file-sharers, at the end of the day piracy is about little more than greed and an overinflated sense of entitlement.
Really? Do you have a source for this information? Oh... you don't? So, it was just an opinion of yours? Weird, why did you state it as a fact?

It's incredibly hard to take anything you say seriously when you go and inject your own high-minded claims into your editorials.
 

runtheplacered

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Ragdrazi said:
Malygris said:
EA's recent moves toward DRM detente apparently haven't made much of an impression on the pirate community, although given the high rates of piracy [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/91001-Demigod-Piracy-Running-High] experienced even by vociferously anti-DRM publishers like Stardock, it's not terribly surprising. Despite the high-minded claims of many file-sharers, at the end of the day piracy is about little more than greed and an overinflated sense of entitlement.
That's quite the opinion given as fact there, Malygris. I'd find it interesting if it didn't so outrightly reject the facts. For instance, there's the fact that everything but everything is torrented. All it takes is one individual acting on what ever whim is driving them. To presume the torrenting of the Sims shows some general predisposition towards greed on the part of the entire pirate community is an unsupported conclusion on your part. You also bring up Demigod, which, you are right to say was highly pirated. But you presume to state ~why~ it was heavily pirated without examining the facts. As was shown by numerous people on the thread you linked to, Demigod did not have a demo, as is usual for MMOs. Many people simply wanted a try before they buy. And low and behold, the fact that you're avoiding here is Demigod was a major commercial success.

Malygris, your editorial spin is bordering on personal vendetta. But, unfortunately, as much as you'd like to ignore them, you cannot avoid the facts.
Just wanted to say, I completely agree. And well said.
 

Hithlain

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PeaceFistCreations said:
Hithlain said:
ExaltedK9 said:
how depressing...
I agree. I know the world is filled with all sorts of people, but really. It takes a jerk to pirate games. Whatever happened to supporting things we liked with our money?
You don't have to be evil to be cheap or want free stuff.
It is a shame people steal things, but this particular situation isn't much to fret over. EA will still make tons of money with this game no matter what.
That's exactly the thing that I detest. Sure, they are going to be making money hand over fist, but if you WANT the game shouldn't you be doing the right thing and buy it? I mean, I don't mind it if they take older games that really aren't worth buying anymore, but this game hasn't even been released yet!

If you like the game, if you want the game, if you want it so bad that you download it early or pirate it, shouldn't you be giving your money to the company in order to say "yes, I want more of these games"? I'm an economist, so I know firsthand that the information that companies use to determine what games to make next is the PROFIT. Your contribution may be small but you are voting for more of the same with your money. Think of all the lost sales over the years....
 

stiver

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This thread confuses me. With or without DRM it was still going to end up on the internet. With or without a leak it was going to end up on the internet anyways. This leak isn't going to hurt sales anymore than if there was no leak. Sorry for the people who know nothign about piracy, but everyone downloading it now was just going to download it a couple hours after it would have been released anyways.
People make the confusion that it is theft, and not just copyright infringement. If piracy didn't exist, all the downloaded copies wouldn't suddenly translate to sales. Not everyone who downloads something was going to buy it anyways. In fact there is probably very few down loaders now that ever had the intention of buying it. It is still going to sell really well and make massive amounts of money.
 

runtheplacered

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Ragdrazi said:
Hithlain said:
I'm an economist, so I know firsthand that the information that companies use to determine what games to make next is the PROFIT. Your contribution may be small but you are voting for more of the same with your money. Think of all the lost sales over the years....
As an economist who is opposed to piracy, surely you must also be decrying the terrible effect our public library systems can have on book sales. Surely.
To even go a bit further, I can borrow video games from my library. Although their selection, last time I looked, was rather weak.
 

neuromasser

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I couldn't care less for Sims 3. I won't buy it. I won't pirate it. Gentleman, it's all yours.
 

IsoNeko

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Y'know. I think I might just go out and buy Sims 3.

I had no intention of doing it. But seeing EA do us all a favour and then get kicked in the nads for it. It just sickens me.
 

scotth266

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People seem to think that Malygris is being uppity for putting in a anti-piracy statement.

Well, maybe he'll be a little less angry when pirates actually stop pirating for pirating's sake: AKA being unwilling to lay down money for any game.

The point he was trying to make was that pirates haven't stopped pirating despite having most legitimate reasons to do so removed (demos are commmon, free trials are common, yadda yadda yadda).

Also, good companies like Stardock take just as much punishment as bad ones like EA. And when these companies show some remorse and try to change, what happens? MORE PIRACY. Wow, way to show them that they did the right thing in making games with no DRM...
 

Phyroxis

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scotth266 said:
People seem to think that Malygris is being uppity for putting in a anti-piracy statement.

Well, maybe he'll be a little less angry when pirates actually stop pirating for pirating's sake: AKA being unwilling to lay down money for any game.

The point he was trying to make was that pirates haven't stopped pirating despite having most legitimate reasons to do so removed (demos are commmon, free trials are common, yadda yadda yadda).

Also, good companies like Stardock take just as much punishment as bad ones like EA. And when these companies show some remorse and try to change, what happens? MORE PIRACY. Wow, way to show them that they did the right thing in making games with no DRM...
Yeah.. I won't be pissed at publishers if they go totalitarian lockdown on games after this BS. You can't say you're making a statement by downloading a game and then not stop when the statement has been heard and things have changed for the better.