Sniper Elite 3 Unveils Ridiculously Graphic "X-Ray Killcam"

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I can't tell if they're serious or pulling a SpecOps:The Line on us.

And while I'm not really interested in this game, you really have to marvel at the technology. I wish more devs would push technology other than graphics.
 
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Could someone tell me why this article was given to someone who never played Sniper Elite? He seems so astonished at something that was present in a game released years ago. This is old news.

Anyway the xray shot seems to linger a bit too long for my liking, hope they change that in the final release.
 

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That's pretty weird, outright fetishistic. But the clips I saw of V2 already were, so I'm not surprised or anything. They're just improving upon that... feature... that they already had and focused on before. It reminds me of those high-speed cams people employ to document them shooting at jello or watermelons or whatever, which is probably where they got the idea from. I'll consider you at the very least a little weird if you think this is important.

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Funny world we live in where its ok to show someones brains being blown out in X-ray vision and no-one raises an eyebrow but a a little softcore sex scene can lead to media hate campaigns...
Yeah, I still don't get that. We can see a person's insides (even their testicles in these games, by the way), but no sexual organs from the outside of their intact bodies? Fallout 3 and NV were like this, too, where you could actually turn people into chunks and look at their insides, but even the hookers would dress very chastely. Even when you steal all their clothes.
 

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And in V4, we'll get to see the memories of poor Schultz's little daughter playing on the swingset being destroyed in slow-motion as the bullet pierces through his highly rendered brain.
Actually, they're going to put so much detail into the brain that he will achieve sentience. The slow-motion bullet effect will be secondary in the glee you will get out of hearing your console scream softly.

But actually, though. This strikes me as extremely silly, if not a tad psychotic. Is there really nothing else the devs could have worked on in the game?
 

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Sniper Elite V2 was brilliant in my opinion, because I love being stealthy, and a sniper in war games, so an entire game, while rather short (I completed it in only a few hours), was still fantastic, and I look forward to V3!
 

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This is all expected to be improved but I wouldn't mind more open levels. The DLC missions actually offered more freedom than the base V2 game.
 

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SimpleThunda said:
Why someone would want to see a guy's nuts being blown apart is -beyond me-.

And any of this "killcam" stuff, for that matter.

It just goes to show how warped a view we have of violence.
I find it really interesting, but I don't think I have a warped view of violence. Part of it is that I'm completely capable of distinguishing real violence from fake violence.

There's a Jimquisition where he shows an actual suicide. I skipped the scene because I knew my reaction already. I was caught unawares of a similar scene in Bowling for Columbine. Real violence is very, very disturbing.

I find this really interesting in the same way that knocking builings apart in Red Faction was interesting. That's one of the reasons Mythbuster's is popular. Sure, it is morbid to wonder if you can disolve a body in acid, but actually seeing that process (on a pig carcass) is intriguing. How much damage does a certain type of exposive do? They sometimes use a "human analogue" with an actual skeleton to see the effects on a body.

So, the same here. What happens when a bullet hits a person? Traditional games just show it as a loss of "health", but, in reality, bullets do a tremendous amount of very complicated damage. If anything, seeing these "x-ray" shots should actually give someone a better understanding of violence.

You might cringe to hear someone claim a video of someone's (fake) head exploding is "cool", but that doesn't mean that they think actually killing people is "cool". They are completely different things that any normal adult can differentiate.
 

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The two problems I had with V2 was the shitty stealth system (The moment you were seen, it was impossible to evade the enemies. They had GPS markers on you from then until you shot everyone with a machine gun), and an average as dicks story. I wasn't expecting Breaking Bad The Game, but I was expecting something better than what amounts to an average PS2 game.

Still....we shall see with this one.
 

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I Love this series because it tries to show that being a sniper in real life is nothing like sniping in CoD or Battlefield. A lot of people don't realize that sniper teams are usually two guys, all alone, with little to no backup. Sniper Elite does away with the spotter probably for game play simplicity, but the sneaking around part is much closer to reality than you might think. If you're thinking of something like Silent Scope the you want to look into a police or SWAT sniper, who's target is usually much closer anyway.

Besides the sneaking, I found Sniper Elite V2 to be much more fun than sharpshooting in other games. Primarily because on the hardest settings you had to account for travel time, bullet drop, wind drift, and on many stages needed to time your shots with background noise.

And lastly (and most on topic.) As far as the kill cam goes, I always took it as a reminder of the horrible price of being a sniper. Sure most soldiers are expected to kill people, but most of the time your body count is going to much lower as a Marine or an Army soldier. And many times individual kills are lost in the heat of battle. But as a sniper you can count each and every life you end; often watching and focusing on a single target for minutes, or on a group of enemies for several days. Your enemy will also remember every single one of their comrades who's life you destroyed in an unceremonious shower of blood and sinew. As much as our industry glamorizes the lone soldier or sniper, we can't forget that what they accomplish is horrific and disgusting. That's what the kill cam is for me, a tiny little glimpse at PTSD, and a reminder that in real life a body count is no glory.
 

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Pah! Dwarf Fortress has had this feature for years in higher level of detail.
 
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SimpleThunda said:
Why someone would want to see a guy's nuts being blown apart is -beyond me-.

And any of this "killcam" stuff, for that matter.

It just goes to show how warped a view we have of violence.
I sort of see your point, but for me it really made me think about the damage one bullet can do. So often in games and movies you see people get riddled with bullets that it kind of seems more comical than anything. We don't often reflect or have an insight into what impact those bullets have on the human body.
 

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For me seeing how the bullet will injure or kill my enemy in V2 was amazing to see in such a unique way its in the same vein of why we watch that discovery slow mo show it slows it down to watch how the body moves in ways we can't see without the filters. No matter how hard you try no two shots were ever alike and you could pull some unintentional crazy kills like two guys with one bullet.

To me its made to highlight the devastation of guns not gore porn you see someones leg explode and go Oh crap! I did that!? Or you pull off the illusive bullet through the enemy snipers scope and go ouch! Crap I'd hate to be him! Its made to let the player know they're killing this npc and trying to make it more human with multiple layers puts the game beyond other FPSs if I was to go join the sniper school today I'd not have to imagine what my bullet would do I'd pretty much know with this game so then the question becomes not do I want to be a sniper but do I want to do that sort of devastation to a real human or have it inflicted upon myself this game's mechanics can actually help people really consider such things if they wanted to enter into the military or police. Its one thing to go if I joined up I know I'll be shot at well now you get to see a demonstration of that shot and it helps you weigh your options more realistically super solider mode is gone in this game for at least your enemies and thats good if they did it to you for killer shots that would be a new level and force players to not be so reckless.
 

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I enjoyed V2 to an extent. Some levels were really cool, but whenever you went indoor, it felt like a massive waste of potential. The sniping was the only interesting part, and to me, that's fine. That's what the game is about. I hope they make larger levels in the new one, and preferrably even more open.
With that said, even if they don't, I'll probably give this game a shot. V2 was a fantastic game for letting off steam and getting rid of frustration for me, and I have no doubt that this will do the trick as well.
 

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I was a big fan of V2, and the X-ray cam was a great feature. Looking forward to picking this up :D
Yep. And if that isnt enough....COMPLETE COOP CAMPAIGN! One can spot, the other fire, or both can take down enemy soldiers like a boss! Playing V2 with a friend now, and playing SE3 after that. Having an absolute thrill timing shots to background noise to avoid detection and trying to stealth it :D