So Anita Sarkeesian and the ME3 ending are drowning in a whirlpool...

bojackx

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I'd say it doesn't really matter. The only difference between the choices is the colour that the whirlpool will turn.
 

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I don't know that much about Anita Sarkeesian but seeing as how she is a person and not just some data on a disc I would rather she be saved.
 

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cleric of the order said:
I personally would take the ME3 ending, I actually like it.
And I know that anita shouldn't get all the blame for the shit McIntosh writes but I know I will not cry for her, have you seen her delivery? she already dead.
Wait, as in, she's literally a member of the undead?

Oh God.

We're all doomed.
 

Rabbitboy

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This is so much bullshit that the whirlpool will just clog up. Which leaves me free to go flirt with Shawn Weatherly.
 

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I'm pretty sure that according to the logic in her own videos I'd have to save the ME3 ending, or simply do nothing. After all I wouldn't want to contribute to societies sexist attitude about women by indulging in the "Damsel in Distress" trope - what kind of monster do you think I am?
 

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I'd seriously consider calling emergency services because I don't think anyone anywhere ever can possibly be that high without death by overdose being near.
 

Whitbane

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Well at least the ME 3 ending wasn't stolen long-play footage, so I'd probably at least shoot ME 3 before it drowned.
 

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Eh? Sea Lion is made of guns.
Guns and portal openers are the same thing.
Open portals and save everysbodyz (Clank powah!)
Everybodyz saved, beers all around.
Of course we still have a whirlpool, which as everyone knows means flying sharks....
 

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Abomination said:
Would Anita actually let people save her? I mean, she would be a literal damsel in distress.
At the risk of derailing an otherwise silly thread, I have seen multiple posters post things like this and I'm wondering if they are just playing along with the joke, in which case this entire post of mine just makes me look silly, or if people are actually confusing being against a narrative trope and actually being against saving real human life.

Of course Anita wouldn't mind being rescued by a man, because an overused narrative structure totally under the control of an author is a much much different thing than a real life situation where a real human being is in danger.

Criticizing a cliche plot point or event does not suddenly change how we act in real life, me being against overused escort quests in games does not mean I would refuse to escort an injured co-worker out of a burning building because, "fuck that, I don't play escort quests". Likewise, being against the overuse of female damsels in distress plots does not mean someone would ever actually be against being rescued from real danger.

Of course it's hard to tell whose being serious and whose joking in these types of posts, so if we are talking about "anita" being a damsel in distress because she is a participant in a farcical hypothetical scenario, so she's basically a character in fiction, then yeah, just ignore my drunken rambling. I have met a couple people in the past who seemed to seriously think that criticizing a cliche in fiction meant you were taking issue with the real life equivalent, so you know, Poe's law and all that.
 

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EternallyBored said:
Abomination said:
Would Anita actually let people save her? I mean, she would be a literal damsel in distress.
At the risk of derailing an otherwise silly thread, I have seen multiple posters post things like this and I'm wondering if they are just playing along with the joke, in which case this entire post of mine just makes me look silly, or if people are actually confusing being against a narrative trope and actually being against saving real human life.

Of course Anita wouldn't mind being rescued by a man, because an overused narrative structure totally under the control of an author is a much much different thing than a real life situation where a real human being is in danger.

Criticizing a cliche plot point or event does not suddenly change how we act in real life, me being against overused escort quests in games does not mean I would refuse to escort an injured co-worker out of a burning building because, "fuck that, I don't play escort quests". Likewise, being against the overuse of female damsels in distress plots does not mean someone would ever actually be against being rescued from real danger.

Of course it's hard to tell whose being serious and whose joking in these types of posts, so if we are talking about "anita" being a damsel in distress because she is a participant in a farcical hypothetical scenario, so she's basically a character in fiction, then yeah, just ignore my drunken rambling. I have met a couple people in the past who seemed to seriously think that criticizing a cliche in fiction meant you were taking issue with the real life equivalent, so you know, Poe's law and all that.
If Anita's only criticism of the damsel in distress trope was that it was overused it would be one thing, but she has painted it as an example how the games media hates women and thinks less of them.

Of course, the reasoning behind the damsel in distress trope existing is quite a long and arduous explanation reaching back thousands of years through human social, biological, economic and political history. To expect such a thing to evaporate with the modern era is an example of being clueless as to the nature of both art and culture.
 

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I'd have it Save the ME3 Ending as it has a right to exist, even if it was absolute crap. Anita thinks victimizing women in plots is a terrible thing, so I'd give her the chance to be the warrior princess of her own plotline... Yep, seems fair to me.
 

EternallyBored

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Abomination said:
If Anita's only criticism of the damsel in distress trope was that it was overused it would be one thing, but she has painted it as an example how the games media hates women and thinks less of them.

Of course, the reasoning behind the damsel in distress trope existing is quite a long and arduous explanation reaching back thousands of years through human social, biological, economic and political history. To expect such a thing to evaporate with the modern era is an example of being clueless as to the nature of both art and culture.
Her reasons for taking issue with it are largely irrelevant, as are the reasons for the tropes existence, the validity of the trope and its historical creation and use have zero to do with actual human lives being at stake. They still do not mean she would ever have problems with a man rescuing a woman in real life. Not that it matters since the scenario proposed wouldn't even be a damsel in distress trope anyway since the trope requires that the person being rescued is simply there as a reward or emotional motivator for the protagonist, the act of just rescuing someone from immediate danger is not enough to qualify as part of the trope.



JustAnotherAardvark said:
EternallyBored said:
drunken rambling
Hell yeah, I'll drink to that!
Now we just need a bigger boat to deal with them sharks!
ahh fuckit, I'm taking this stupid shit way too seriously, pour me another drink, then you grab the boat, I'll grab the gun and scuba tanks, and we'll go blow up some sharks.
 

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EternallyBored said:
JustAnotherAardvark said:
EternallyBored said:
drunken rambling
Hell yeah, I'll drink to that!
Now we just need a bigger boat to deal with them sharks!
ahh fuckit, I'm taking this stupid shit way too seriously, pour me another drink, then you grab the boat, I'll grab the gun and scuba tanks, and we'll go blow up some sharks.
Thems the spirits! True story, served on the USS Indianapolis (the later one, not the CA of legend) ... let's get us some sharks. "Eyes like dolls eyes". Err, we gonna draw straws on who holds the tank and who holds the shotgun, dah?
 

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I mean I'll save her, but only if she agrees to wear neutral colors from now on.

The Mass Effect series is probably better off without the ending.
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
The Mass Effect series is probably better off without the ending.
Particularly the "fu ending" they put out. I've been a DM, I know a middle finger to the players when I put one in.
Citidel party ftw!
 

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You guys are aware that if Anita would see this thread she would possibly post it on tumblr, call it harassment... and 5 minutes later ask for donations to get another half a million dollars?

No?

Okay.. carry on then

And ME3s ending can die in a fire... "we couldnt be arsed to come up with a good ending so have different colored explosions... oh.. AND BUY OUR DLC!"

Artistic integrity my arse....