So, my family is homophobic.

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Dangit2019 said:
They've gone to lengths to let me know that if I ever came out of the closet, they would absolutely disown me, and it makes me feel bad that they would say something like that so easily and still come back to assure me that they love me completely.
Wow. That has to hurt. At the end of the day, nobody (not even themselves) know how they would react to that until and if it happened.
As for your question there has to be some similar circumstance, and argument with a similar form that when they say something against gays you could bring up about the other thing. "that's not what you said about X" so that the argument becomes about the fallacy via some other more neutral topic for them.

However, as they are deeply held beliefs I don't think it's likely they will change without consistent and strong evidence the contrary of whatever it is that they believe.
 

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If simply sticking up for someone who's gay is 'being one of them liberals' or an admission of being gay yourself then any amount of logical arguments on the matter aren't going to work. They've already made their mind up and won't change so don't waste your time trying.
 

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Pretty much everyone in my family says they're NOT homophobic, but they won't stop talking about it as if it were an epidemic, so clearly they're pretty much wrong. I don't care much for the subject, so power to them.

Except the ones that are all up in your face about being gay. That's just annoying.
 

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Fappy said:
My step-dad is against gay marriage. His sister is a lesbian and has a girlfriend.

AWKWARD!
Lulz. Let me know where your family celebrates Thanksgiving or any general reunion; I wanna watch the fireworks.
 

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Dangit2019 said:
Fappy said:
My step-dad is against gay marriage. His sister is a lesbian and has a girlfriend.

AWKWARD!
Lulz. Let me know where your family celebrates Thanksgiving or any general reunion; I wanna watch the fireworks.
There have been many reunions and the fact is just ignored all together. As far as I know it's never been brought up. they have a cousin that is also in a lesbian relationship and brings her girlfriend to all of the family gatherings. I really don't quite understand how he still thinks that way at this point. Even my mom has begun to realize how silly it is and she is pretty damn Christian.
 

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Helmholtz Watson said:
Boudica said:
"If you can offer a single piece of irrefutable evidence as to why homosexuality is uniquely destructive, I'll agree with you."

Check-mate!
Until recently with technology, if everybody was gay, population numbers would dramatically decrease.
So what? If all men had a vasectomy the population would decrease dramatically as well, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. It's a completely pointless argument.
 

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Boudica said:
Ledan said:
Boudica said:
Ledan said:
Boudica said:
GunsmithKitten said:
Boudica said:
Simply: don't become the thing you dislike. Be a force of love, not hate, and that's the best you can do.
Love doesn't win wars.
Love is the only way to win a war; you don't define victory by number of dead, but by spiritual conviction.
-_-

The victorious side is whichever one is in charge after the war. Doesn't matter if they lost more guys or if the other side had more conviction. The Romans won in England because they were then in charge of the area, Boudica was not in charge(sorry, couldn't resist).
I disagree. Rome lost every war it was ever in. They had a lot of power and (at one point) a lot of land. But ultimately they lost everything and the ashes of their civilization were built upon just like they had done to others.

Karma.
By that definition everyone loses every war, because inevitably every civilization falls. It's unfair to say that Ethiopia lost the war against Italy because one day Ethiopia will no longer be Ethiopia.
It's not because they fell, but because they were toppled by karma. Rome pushed too many people around and thought much too highly of itself. Eventually that came back to bite it. They spread too thin, kicked too many dogs and poked too many bears.

Sow in flame and reap in ashes.
I'm not one to pry into a debate, but:
 

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This is a piece of writing that is relevant to the argument you keep having with them, and may give you another way to approach it when arguing with them:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
 

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You kind of have to love your parents (though not always), but if the issue is big enough, you don't have to like them. Like others have said, your parents seem pretty attached to their opinions, so I would just say avoid the topic in general if it does not concern you that much. If it does, then just wait to become more independent and then confront them about your differing opinions.

My parents sometimes come off the slightest bit racist or homophobic sometimes, but they are really good people. Sometimes it's just the time they were raised in that made them make little remarks like that. It's not an excuse, but it may explain why they are like that.
 

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Carbonyl said:
This is a piece of writing that is relevant to the argument you keep having with them, and may give you another way to approach it when arguing with them:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
Good read Carb! Made me feel better about myself actually. That part where he lists a bunch of examples of someone people would look down on? One of my really good friends fits into a bunch of those categories and he's one of the greatest guys I know. :p
 

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Fappy said:
Carbonyl said:
This is a piece of writing that is relevant to the argument you keep having with them, and may give you another way to approach it when arguing with them:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
Good read Carb! Made me feel better about myself actually. That part where he lists a bunch of examples of someone people would look down on? One of my really good friends fits into a bunch of those categories and he's one of the greatest guys I know. :p
There are also a bunch of related posts on that blog detailing a number of people's responses to it, they are awesome, and made me bawl like a baby.
 

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Carbonyl said:
Fappy said:
Carbonyl said:
This is a piece of writing that is relevant to the argument you keep having with them, and may give you another way to approach it when arguing with them:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
Good read Carb! Made me feel better about myself actually. That part where he lists a bunch of examples of someone people would look down on? One of my really good friends fits into a bunch of those categories and he's one of the greatest guys I know. :p
There are also a bunch of related posts on that blog detailing a number of people's responses to it, they are awesome, and made me bawl like a baby.
You know, recently I have seen a very interesting development during the whole Chic-fil-A thing on Facebook. It seems the Christian community is suffering from an internal backlash from those who are tired of all the blind hatred. I have been subtly doing my part from behind enemy lines. I'm Catholic, so my word has to mean something amirite? XP
 

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Fappy said:
Carbonyl said:
Fappy said:
Carbonyl said:
This is a piece of writing that is relevant to the argument you keep having with them, and may give you another way to approach it when arguing with them:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
Good read Carb! Made me feel better about myself actually. That part where he lists a bunch of examples of someone people would look down on? One of my really good friends fits into a bunch of those categories and he's one of the greatest guys I know. :p
There are also a bunch of related posts on that blog detailing a number of people's responses to it, they are awesome, and made me bawl like a baby.
You know, recently I have seen a very interesting development during the whole Chic-fil-A thing on Facebook. It seems the Christian community is suffering from an internal backlash from those who are tired of all the blind hatred. I have been subtly doing my part from behind enemy lines. I'm Catholic, so my word has to mean something amirite? XP
Secret agent Fappy! Fight the good fight.
 

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+1 on not talking to them.

Seriously.

Or just plant gay porn is someone's personal PC.

Dangit2019 said:
I've been "brainwashed" by the "liberal (ahem, DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUN) media"?
Because they are not as manipulative an retarded as Fox News, right? DUN DUN DUNNNNN
 

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My parents are very homophobic aswell.

Their main argument always boils down to: "It's just not natural!"

ME: "Surely it doesn't matter what they do in their own privacy."
THEM: "It's just not natural!"
ME: "Why?"
THEM: "Because it's just F**kin isn't"
ME: "They can't help how they feel"
THEM: "I don't F**kin care!"

As you can see as soon as the topic arises, they start getting very vocal and angry.
It's just the way they are.
 

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SpectacularWebHead said:
Dangit2019 said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
Become gay to annoy them.
That'll show em.
Yeah.
It would at least be a better idea than Spider-toast
Oh no you di'nt!


Come at me bro.
Come at me.
You like Spider-man? Well guess what, just for that I'll form a plot to destroy Spider-Man's reputatio- oh wait, Drake Bell already did.
 

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Dangit2019 said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
Dangit2019 said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
Become gay to annoy them.
That'll show em.
Yeah.
It would at least be a better idea than Spider-toast
Oh no you di'nt!


Come at me bro.
Come at me.
You like Spider-man? Well guess what, just for that I'll form a plot to destroy Spider-Man's reputatio- oh wait, Drake Bell already did.
Dude, I am spiderman.
I have webs.
COME AT ME BRO.
(Seriously? Drake Bell? LAAAME)