AngloDoom said:
mxfox408 said:
AngloDoom said:
In some cases I think so, like sexual abuse, rape, frustrations with the opposite sex,and as a Christian Lust is a very powerful sin. I'm not saying its a bigger sin than others but it has a strong hold, in other words lust doesn't equal love, its just a a powerful desire, if someone is gay based on lust alone then that's all it is. I cannot fully speculate on that tho, all I can do is pray for others and allow others to live their life. God after all gave us the choice to make. Even if you look on the scientists perspective they cannot prove ifborn gay or not. Again I cannot answer that question. I do however personally believe it to be sin, but as stated before I respect all life and do not cast judgement, what kind of Christian would I be if I did? A Hippocrate. As far as finding my own sex attractive I strongly do not.
Thank you for your reply, firstly. Secondly, I certainly respect your ideas toward 'I don't agree, but that's your choice' and I wish a lot more people took that path.
However, if you wouldn't mind answering my questions again: you said that in "some cases" sexual abuse can affect sexuality, what about the individuals who have not suffered from such problems? People who have had a 'normal' life and are considered attractive by the opposite sex, even gone out with them and sometimes even hsexual relations with them, but were repulsed by what they were doing because it felt wrong until they did it with someone of their own sex?
I ask because the above scenario is based off of someone I know who struggled to come to terms with their sexuality until late into their teens and I wondered, as a Christian, how you could explain such a thing? Again, I'm not holding you hostage as ambassador for Christian viewpoints, but I'm just interested if you're willing to answer.
I would consider being " repulsed by what they were doing because it felt wrong until they did it with someone of their own sex?" Is considered experimentation, curious, and even could be sexually insecure, atleast that's my interpretation of it. Feelings of guilt mean you feel its wrong and going against that feeling is not a good idea. My belief is when your spirit knows something is wrong it will give you a warning as a guilt or as a little voice telling you not to do something. I have had that happen on other occasions rearguarding many things and ignoring it usually led to problems, all because I rebelled against my instinct. Getting back on point if you have a guilty conscience chances are its not right and society saying its okay its okay, reaffirms this. This is where it becomes sinful we fall into lustful pleasures and desires, and the world's view of what feels right doesn't mean it is. I believe it to be unnatural, the bible has a scripture that discusses certain actions that can also help explain the hate Christians have been recieving and its also easy for Christian to feel that they have the right to cast judgement but they should not because its not our job to do so, things explained in these scriptures may not be to the full extent of what's being done but I'm sure this should help you understand my viewpoint :
Romans 1:21-32 NLT
Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn?t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.
So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other?s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God?s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.
Again it is not our job to judge but pray for and love reguardless of sin, our job is to be an ambassador of Christ not a judge, remember hate the sin not the sinner that is why I'm learning not to engage in insults especially on sensitive topics as such. Best way to get your points across is through being respectful, and if the opposing views continue with insults then they are exposing their own foolishnes. I wish more people can talk without resorting to condescending insults that don't get them anywhere.