So what ISN'T allowed in video games now?

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SuperSamio64 said:
Mr. Eff said:
Playing as Nazis or Al-Queda. God forbid people play a game from an opposing point of view...
Day of Defeat and Resistance and Liberation are both games where you can play as the Wermacht, but it's true that there's no campaign or anything. The way I see it it's just two sides of a war so I don't see the problem. So long as you weren't playing like a concentration camp officer(or to use your Al Qaeda example, a suicide bomber) it'd probably be fine.
Gaming could be able to offer a rather interesting look into the recruitment practices of al Qaeda. I'm not condoning or praising the actions of terrorists, but I will say a good number of them are recruited because al Qaeda looks like the better party in that part of the world.

In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing a game that pulls a big reveal that you're working for the terrorists, because you followed all the usual revenge story tropes.

It'd piss off most gamers, I think, but maybe it'd make some of us think.
 

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TheNecro Swanson said:
It all depends on the rating. I haven't played Far Cry 3 yet, but do those scenes show full on mother effing hardcore penetration?
You don't need to play the game to see the scenes. Go to YouTube.
 

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Also, the Witcher 2 sex scenes are also on YouTube. Soft porn basically.

I don't think anything is taboo anymore in games, unless you want to talk about designing games with solid gameplay. That's taboo post Skyrim.
 

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Yeah.... Halo and hears of war were never controversial titles. FPS perspective went back way way further... Way further... Duke nukem anyone, way more violent than halo, and with brandished tits...
 

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How are we for blatant racism in games? Outside of GTA: San Andreas I don't think I've ever heard an n-bomb being dropped, certainly not in a malicious context.

Although I suppose the disgusting propaganda reel that was Homefront had plenty of anti-Korean sentiment in it. Luckily the game was such a piece of shit no one played far enough to find that out.
 

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As an art form games should be allowed to include anything. There are many books and films on controversial sunjects such as sex, the holocaust, rape, violence - you get the picture.

However I think the main issue is that parents/guardians of children are not aware of the content of games/the internet. As such whenever sex or any other controversial subject appears people are quick to attack it (there is currently a huge debate whether ISP's in the UK or the government should introduce porn blocking filters).

As with most issues informing and educating people is the way forward. If we embrace technology we also need to understand how to use it properly and protect those not ready to view such material.
 
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When the heck did Halo ever cause any controversy? It's as safe a shooter as one can make, considering there's no human faces, gore, OTT violence or the like.

And Far Cry 3 "full on penetration"? WTF? You see two boobs, the rest is implied. It's tamer than most love scenes in Hollywood films. Not including the savage elements of course.

Anyway, the things that can't be put into game? I would say at this point, women. It seems impossible to have a female character now without offending someone. Everyone has an opinion about her look, her character, her role, everything and still it will be wrong. Make a dude though you can do whatever the f**k you want.
 

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SuperSamio64 said:
Day of Defeat and Resistance and Liberation are both games where you can play as the Wermacht, but it's true that there's no campaign or anything. The way I see it it's just two sides of a war so I don't see the problem. So long as you weren't playing like a concentration camp officer(or to use your Al Qaeda example, a suicide bomber) it'd probably be fine.
Yeah, that's true. I was more so referring to, like you said, a campaign in which the protagonist is a Wehrmacht soldier. There is lots of potential for a fantastic story there, but I suspect people are simply not ready for it. As for Al Queda (or other such groups) consider the 2010 Medal of Honor debacle, or the controversy surrounding Six Days in Falluja.
 

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My friends and I modded Carmageddon 2 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmageddon_II:_Carpocalypse_Now] to add school kids to the pedestrians you could run over. The school kids were ourselves.

It was the heady technological days of 1998 and cutting up digital photographs and pasting them on to the ~20 poly pedestrian models was crazy awesome to us.

Good times.
 

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Father Time said:
Taboo in games:

Letting the player kill children (unless they don't look real like the little sisters in Bioshock or they've got powers and are the villain).

Rape

Pedophilia

Fetishes more perverse/disgusting than S&M
I read that and disturbing had a thought ''Hey, how about putting all of those into one game?..'' my brain said innocently ''Really? A game where you rape small children in a disturbingly fetish way and then kill them? WTF brain.'' I replied.

But then again there probably already exists a game like that in Japan. Oh Japan.. You silly you.
 

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Mr. Eff said:
Playing as Nazis or Al-Queda. God forbid people play a game from an opposing point of view...
call of duty, call of duty, call of duty.
It only became an issue for whatever reason with MOH (probably because ea paid for the "controversy" publicity just like the made up mass effect "sex scandal) but nobody complained about playing taliban in cod nor did the "other side" whine about them being called "opposing force" until MOH did it.

Hawkeye21 said:
I think its retarded how massive amounts of violence, gore and swearing are allowed to be in games, while depictions of nudity and/or sex are a no-no. That says something unpleasant about our modern society.
I think it's annoying that people are still spreading silly myths like this just so they can pretend their hobby is being censored or something.
Duke Nukem forever had uncensored nudity

Farcry 3

The godfather 2 game

red dead redemption 2

People assume there is some rule against it just because not ever M game chooses to show it. That's like saying books are not allowed to describe food because not all books do it.
 

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Father Time said:
Taboo in games:

Letting the player kill children (unless they don't look real like the little sisters in Bioshock or they've got powers and are the villain).

Rape

Pedophilia

Fetishes more perverse/disgusting than S&M
There are games with rape and even pedophilia as part of the plot though obviously not the player character doing it. I guess it just depends on whether the media picks up on it or not.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
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I'm fairly certain that there would be an uproar if a game depicted something like the Holocaust. Even if it was done in a respectful and serious way. I can't recall any game that even really mentions those kinds of atrocities openly. I could be wrong though.
Considering we can't get a Six Days in Fallujah? Yeah.
stop saying "we can't get it" like it's banned or something. The game was canceled because they didn't want to deal with a little bit of controversy.

People need to educate themselves instead of repeating "it's not allowed" and maybe then you can work on the real issue of censorship in america, corporate censorship. The government didn't censor manhunt 2, the company that produced it did because the 3 game console producers have a rule against games rated AO by an organization funded by video game companies. At no point is it "not allowed" but certain things are censored or scrapped when they depict certain things or get "too real"

Not saying this is the reason but I feel it's fair to mention that Manhunt 2 was no more violent than the first but what it did do differently was have a conspiracy theorist theme and pretty acurately (as well as symbolicly) depicted the very real "MKultra" esperiments. Just food for thought, who knows the real reason it was changed.
 

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MrHide-Patten said:
Can't kill kids... then the modders wouldn't have anything to do. On that note you can't have full frontal nudity (not unless massive censors). But sex has had the bar risen as well, using Mass Effect as the example, I'd been playing the Mass Effect series on my PS3 so I hadn't seen this sex scene that got Fox in a tizzy, but the one from Mass Effect 3 with Liara is really... visceral.

So by the time I got to play through Mass Effect I expect something Hardcore. Nope. Im surprised Fox didn't explode after Mass Effect 3.
*sigh* again stop saying you "can't" depict things just because it's not often done.

Deus ex 1 and 2 let you kill kids as well as House of the dead 2 although you lost a life for doing it (no it was not a zombie kid) and there are a few others as well.
 

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snowpuppy said:
Have we got gay sex scenes yet? That would piss someone off.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/123176-Update-Apple-Bans-Saga-12-For-Gay-Sex-Scene

Indeed, we have!

A lot of sex is taken out because children play games. A lots of children can get their hands on even mature games, due in no small part to irresponsible parents.

The Witcher series shows sex scenes done pretty well. And I respect the devs for that. However, I'd respect them more if it wasn't for the fact that the game abuses them. "See this, here? This witcher on human/elf action? Keep playing and you'll get to see more of this!"
 

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Killing children. Quite looking forward to the day we progress enough so that children being killed doesn't make a game unclassifiable.
 

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nathan-dts said:
Killing children. Quite looking forward to the day we progress enough so that children being killed doesn't make a game unclassifiable.
Better start looking backwards since it's already happened.

Broken record time, the fact that people usually choose not to do something doesn't mean it's banned.
 

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Carpenter said:
nathan-dts said:
Killing children. Quite looking forward to the day we progress enough so that children being killed doesn't make a game unclassifiable.
Better start looking backwards since it's already happened.

Broken record time, the fact that people usually choose not to do something doesn't mean it's banned.
Can I get an example of a game were the player can kill a normal child? Not a monstrous child or anything, just a child that's not an enemy.