Demons souls definitely has a massive learning curve once you get the hang of the game its not actually too hard. I suppose your experience with the game depends on what your used to, I generally play games for the story so when I started playing Demons souls I died a fair amount and there were some times where I just couldn't progress and the repeated deaths were very frustrating. On the other hand if you play every game on the maximum difficulty setting and are in it mostly for the challenge then I can see DS being a very different experience not too much different from previously played games. The main reason I would avoid DS for a new gamer is because it dosen't really allow any leeway with the controls, if your a little slow on the dodge or block your dead, Unlike say Devil may cry where on the lower settings at least the game is fairly forgiving. I recently got my girlfriend back into gaming through a combination of Okami Skyrim and portal two. Okami she loved for the art style and the combat is quite forgiving most of the time, Skyrim has an epic setting, is playable in 3rd person (which she does all the time) and on easy most enemies wont kill you outright, Portal 2 coop is great for learning more about 1st person as you play together and there are few limits on time etc. She tried Demons souls and even after becoming pretty good at skyrim okami etc was repeatedly killed on the first level due to the unforgiving nature of the game, she hasn't played it since.ExiusXavarus said:
So you're introducing someone to videogames. What games should you use?
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Good God almighty does anyone read before they speak? They're listed in my challenging games category specifically because they're hard games. I even said myself that I'd recommend them to people if they like a good challenge! And if the PC interface for DA: O is too confusing, simply play it on consoles. It's not confusing at all, and I started playing video games over 18 years ago. Every Prince of Persia game is a good game and I would wholly recommend all of them. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean others don't.Arif_Sohaib said:
Is anyone going to say anything productive here rather than bash on my own choices for recommendations? I'm not stupid and I listed everything for a specific reason. I think it would be pretty amazing if people stopped acting like I'm some kind of idiot.
Dark Souls, Super Meat Boy, the online portion of Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3, basically, scare them the hell away. We don't take kindly to noobs 'round these parts.
But seriously, Nintendo made an entire console and a handheld designed for getting people into gaming, I'd suggest making use of it...
But seriously, Nintendo made an entire console and a handheld designed for getting people into gaming, I'd suggest making use of it...
Challenge? For someone who is holding a controller for the first time?ExiusXavarus said:
And I personally loved the Sands of Time series, it is actually my favorite game series but I would not recommend it as someone's first 3D game due to death traps and complex acrobatics coming in too quickly in the second and third game which would frustrate most new gamers, in the first game death traps don't come in until you have done complex acrobatics which you do before you even get the dagger.
Sandboxes might be a good choice. If they prefer plot or good writing in general, give them something like Assassins Creed 2. For just fun, Saints Row 2 might be good. It all depends on what they want from what they read, watch, etc.
Ease them in with casual games first, something like Angry Birds or Mario Kart. Depending on their tastes, start getting into more challenging stuff like Team Fortress 2, and then get advanced with Minecraft and Command & Conquer.
Yes. For someone holding a controller for the first time. What, are people not allowed to ramp up the difficulty? And saying that Warrior Within and Two Thrones are too difficult because of death traps and complex acrobatics is like saying that Halo is too difficult because you have to shoot at hordes of Covenant coming all at one time, while avoiding Banshees. You're telling us nothing new. People that like being challenged do exist. Hi! Oh, and people that really are interested in picking up games aren't going to turn away from the entire medium because they didn't like one game. That's like turning away from film because you didn't like one movie, or stop listening to music entirely because you didn't like one song. There's nothing wrong with giving a newcomer a challenge, as I said before, if they like a good challenge and they want one.Arif_Sohaib said:
Journey is a really good intro-game, I've introduced someone with that. I've also had success with Skyrim, but that was just cuz she watched me play. I've used Portal with my physics professor, it worked well, but he had a lot of trouble in the beginning. Other than that, pretty much anything Nintendo. Just keep it simple.
As others have said, depends on the person.
Me, personally, I'd show them Wild ARMs 1 just on the intro alone.
Me, personally, I'd show them Wild ARMs 1 just on the intro alone.
Demon's Souls or Dark Souls. Perfect first game for anyone.
Seriously, for an introduction to gaming, probably Minecraft on peaceful or easy and probably the console version so they don't have to work out the crafting combos. It's easy to learn, hard to master.
After that, probably Portal for some laughter and puzzles.
Seriously, for an introduction to gaming, probably Minecraft on peaceful or easy and probably the console version so they don't have to work out the crafting combos. It's easy to learn, hard to master.
After that, probably Portal for some laughter and puzzles.
Well I asked because if you know the person, you can tailor the experience to meet their tastes.Reyold said:
I disagree with Portal being a bad game to start someone off with. It's almost entirely a tutorial and is pretty simple and non-offensive.
I started my sister out with Assassin's Creed 2.
Pokémon, definitely pokémon.Especially if they are a child.
GTAs i find are good if you have some friends over and are just showing one fun games.
Other good ones are prince of persia, super mario bros, and half-life 2 if you want to get and adult who has some free time into games.Definitely not a horror game that makes you feel lonely when playing.Deus ex is a good one,which an engaging story, but a bit dated by today's standards.
GTAs i find are good if you have some friends over and are just showing one fun games.
Other good ones are prince of persia, super mario bros, and half-life 2 if you want to get and adult who has some free time into games.Definitely not a horror game that makes you feel lonely when playing.Deus ex is a good one,which an engaging story, but a bit dated by today's standards.
Every time this comes up people bray about Potal. Do not use the Portal games. Do not use any first person games. Controlling them is frustrating and unintuitive for first timers. It's a challenging puzzle just to walk across the room without getting stuck in an corner, staring at the floor, so you can forget thinking with Portals while they're still trying to think with a controller or Keyboard/mouse interface. I know you hardcore kids don't respect iOS, but it's great for getting people into the idea of gaming. My girlfriend is currently murdering my phone battery on a near daily basis playing Jetpack Joyride. If your goal is to get them onto a console or PC, then get a tie-in game to a movie or franchise they already like. It doesn't matter if it's even a good game as long as the controls are functional. They won't know the difference and won't really even know what elements to look for. They'll just know "Holy shit I'm controlling Harry Potter and shooting my magic juice all over the fucking place." That's why you liked all the shitty games you had as a kid. You had no frame of reference (also you were a little bit retarded and probably a disappointment to your parents).
This person should discover what types of games he/she enjoys as they are introduced, so it's not necessarily best to introduce your favorites. It's important to think in baby steps so that this person is not overwhelmed. It also depends on the type of person; a young child will have not issue trying to obsessively beat a difficult game. Everyone on this site has done that. Here's a good introduction for every game type that currently exists for someone that had absolutely no interaction with games prior to meeting you:
1: an adventure game like Monkey Island or Grim Fandango. Something that has very, very basic gameplay. These games will help draw that person into an experience and immerse them, so that they can feel similar to the way you do when you play these games. This person gets a chance to guide a good story with his/her actions. Modern Telltale adventures like Sam and Max are easier, so you can start with an episode.
2: LittleBigPlanet/Super Mario Bros Wii. A basic introduction to 2D platforming in a non hectic environment. The advantage to these two games is that you can play along with them to help them out. If you think they don't need the help, then you can use any age appropriate 2D platformer you like
3: Super Mario Galaxy 2/Prince of Persia: Sands of Time/any Zelda. Introduction to 3D gameplay where you can again play along. If they don't need your help then use another 3D platformer. This could be when you introduce your favorite Zelda game. If they're tired of Mario or don't need your help, then use Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. It's a classic game that is not overly difficult, but is harder than Mario.
4: Portal. This person should now have good spatial sense from 3D platforming, but spatial reasoning in an FPS is much different. Portal is calm and funny, and will be great for this person to get used to the mechanics of an FPS without constantly being shot at.
5: Bioshock/Bastion. Not only do these two games incorporate all of the learned mechanics, but they weave these mechanics into the narrative and introduce the final important aspect: RPG elements. Both of these games have simple RPG elements that anyone can understand. Bioshock is not a very difficult shooter compared to others, and the person may also begin to better appreciate the game and the medium due to its meta-gaming commentary.
Bastion is for those who are not old enough for Bioshock or still really love platformers. It can get overwhelming with enemies, but now this person should be ready. It also looks back to adventure games: the way the story is told makes you feel that you're guiding the events.
The crucial part of the last step is the introduction to RPG elements. If you think of a better game with simple and intuitive RPG elements then go for it.
I used these games because I like these games. You can use others if they follow the same principles.
1: an adventure game like Monkey Island or Grim Fandango. Something that has very, very basic gameplay. These games will help draw that person into an experience and immerse them, so that they can feel similar to the way you do when you play these games. This person gets a chance to guide a good story with his/her actions. Modern Telltale adventures like Sam and Max are easier, so you can start with an episode.
2: LittleBigPlanet/Super Mario Bros Wii. A basic introduction to 2D platforming in a non hectic environment. The advantage to these two games is that you can play along with them to help them out. If you think they don't need the help, then you can use any age appropriate 2D platformer you like
3: Super Mario Galaxy 2/Prince of Persia: Sands of Time/any Zelda. Introduction to 3D gameplay where you can again play along. If they don't need your help then use another 3D platformer. This could be when you introduce your favorite Zelda game. If they're tired of Mario or don't need your help, then use Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. It's a classic game that is not overly difficult, but is harder than Mario.
4: Portal. This person should now have good spatial sense from 3D platforming, but spatial reasoning in an FPS is much different. Portal is calm and funny, and will be great for this person to get used to the mechanics of an FPS without constantly being shot at.
5: Bioshock/Bastion. Not only do these two games incorporate all of the learned mechanics, but they weave these mechanics into the narrative and introduce the final important aspect: RPG elements. Both of these games have simple RPG elements that anyone can understand. Bioshock is not a very difficult shooter compared to others, and the person may also begin to better appreciate the game and the medium due to its meta-gaming commentary.
Bastion is for those who are not old enough for Bioshock or still really love platformers. It can get overwhelming with enemies, but now this person should be ready. It also looks back to adventure games: the way the story is told makes you feel that you're guiding the events.
The crucial part of the last step is the introduction to RPG elements. If you think of a better game with simple and intuitive RPG elements then go for it.
I used these games because I like these games. You can use others if they follow the same principles.