Sony: Backwards Compatibility Is Never Coming Back

[Kiutu]

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Again, just get a ps2. The ps3 is for next gen. It has ps1 compat and that should be good enough. Seriously, they just dropped the price, why do you want more? It only proves that fanboy sheep are never happy, so I don't know why I bother. Even if they changed their minds and put BC in, I bet you'd find another thing to pick at. I'm sorry, but frankly, i"m sick of it. You people are never happy with what you have. Seriously,

Oh cause going to other rooms or rehooking systems is soooo fun. Its much nicer to just have to pop in the disc than have to switch the system plugged in. Also online. The current gen is insynch with online (moreso anyways), while the last gen were not. I tried to get my PS2 online...but that failed. A PS3 would be asier to get online and play online, and if I want to play an old PS2 game online, would be simpler to use the PS3 if I had it. Same goes for the xbox and 360. I did not have Live until the 360, and it was nice going online for some old xbox games that I could not play online previously.

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

...This is terrible. It's nothing but an exploitation.

Backwards compatibility is ALWAYS a good idea...at least for the consumer. There is no logical reason not have to it other than to try and pawn off more PS2s. Informed consumers should know better.

There are two groups of people that would want to buy a PS3...new gamers looking for a new, shiny console...and fans of Sony that want to continue the purchasing of new Sony consoles. But without backwards compatibility, the Sony fans get totally screwed. Being able to play their older PS2 games on a new console while being able to sell their older console seems like it would be a HUGE selling point...

Meanwhiles, folks with a fresh slate that haven't built up a stockpile of Sony games already have a lot less incentive to buy a PS3...especially with competition from Wii and XBox 360.

The PS2 has one of the biggest gaming libraries of any videogame console ever. We're talking about a library of 1800+ games that new PS3 owners are not going to be able to play. That's...terrible!

Maybe it's just me. I don't see why people scramble over anything that happens to be new. But, I've owned both a Playstation and a Playstation 2. I have a huge stockpile of older games, and I intend to buy a lot more of those older titles. Without backwards compatibility, the PS3 has absolutely no appeal for me. This is a dick move...

 

[DerpyDerpyDerp]

I also am lucky enough to have a fully BC PS3, which I use quite frequently (mostly PS2 games, but the occasional PS1 title makes it into my PS3). As far as I can tell it was a fair decision to eventually cut it, as disappointing as that is. We'll have to wait and see how it goes.

 

[Mackinator]

Because this way, they have less to worry about in manufacturing the device
AND
their PS2s will price hike when there are only seven left in the world and Sony just happen to have 5 of them.Ka-$hing.

 

[infernovolver]

I dream of a day where I can come home, and have a console that can play PS1/2/3 games and CD's, DVD's, and Blu-Ray. Ah, that'd be a good day. A good day indeed.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

On the surface, it appears to be a misstep for Sony until you look at the ongoing sales figures for the PS2. It is still quite alive, folks.

You bring BC back to the PS3 and who would have reasons beyond price to buy a PS2 anymore?

Pure economic decision. Self-preservation, really.

You're right. Why encourage people to purchase your NEWER, costly system you invested ludicrous amounts of capital into at tremendous losses when you can keep milking the cow from the last generation.

This is the other side of the strategy, obviously. They protect their bottom line by selling both consoles.

If Sony included BC in the PS3, that enables people to only buy one unit. They make less. People who want to play both older and newer games will be forced to buy a PS2 and a PS3 (or buy PSN rereleases - but either way $$$ for Sony), while those who want strictly new will buy a PS3 (and either likely have a PS2 already or have no interest in one). Those who want old only will stick to the PS2.

I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need to be stated, but I guess not.

Except that this hasnt worked too well in the modern day where people are a great deal more cautious about spending their money and want to consolidate more and more of their devices.
Modern consumers want MORE features not less. They want more "all-in-one" devices to take up less space and thus own less things. Why have a PS3 AND a PS2? thats probably what Sony prefers but not what the modern consumer prefers. The PS2 library is still a very STRONG library, the strongest gaming library out there with titles that could stand up to or surpass even the current PS3 games. Think Metal Gear Solid 4 is great? Metal Gear Solid 3 imo is BETTER. There are still dozens of SUPERIOR RPGS on the PS2. Even games like OKAMI are worth picking up.
Sony thinks you should just own a PS2 but unfortunately many people still holding out will make this Sony's waterloo. Why? Because the customer is always right.
Sony forgot that a long the way somewhere.

I don't know many people who bought a PS3 with ONLY the intention of playing NEW Ps3 games and NO PS2 games. For many, the appeal of being able to do BOTH far outweighs the ability to just play 'new' games.

 

[Standby]

I don't see what the big deal, pretty much eveeryone and their dog has a PS2. And even if not it's not like they're expensive.

 

[esperandote]

that's a big F you to us ps fans.

 

[GodsOneMistake]

-.-..... Am I the only one who sees how incredibly flawed Sony's logic is....

 

[HyenaThePirate]

Because, AGAIN,... it is not about how cheap PS2's are...
It's about not having to HAVE TWO consoles sitting side by side taking up space when having ONE that performs the functions of BOTH is preferable in every way.

Why have a PS3 AND a DVD Player AND a BLU RAY player AND a CD Player?
Maybe Sony should drop the dvd and blu ray movie playback and cd playing components of the PS3 and make it STRICTLY a PS3 GAMES playing console? Dvd players are soooo cheap now...

Of course, then everyone would ***** about how stupid an idea that would be and how Blu ray movie playback is NEEDED by the PS3... even though it could still play blu ray games.

Less is more in my book and every bit of non-essential junk I can remove from my entertainment unit is a bonus not a detriment.

 

[dubious_wolf]

well that is tragic... luckily Xbox 360 still has backwards compatibility! it's just a complete load of rubbish... Also microsoft pulled all the xbox games so you have to get them through DLC which DLC and games are an epic miss step in my opinion, I tryed Fable on the DLC graphics are horrible load times are bad and then the games occasionally crashes. but I see the economic decisions with this move if I'm not mistaken PS2 sales figures are still strong. so thiat way you have to buy a PS2 in order to play older games... sigh it still is a kick in the balls to the players though...

 

[Pendragon9]

You know, if you can't afford a ps3 and a ps2, then just leave. You don't belong here. Sony could be asses and stop making ps2s. But they don't. So be glad already. We just have to face the fact that SONY will always be hated by pig headed fanboy sheep and there's no winning. If you hate it so much, buy an xbox and leave your hate filled opinions off the forums. You only make an ass out of yourself when you make frivolous demands. Hell, half of you promised you'd stop complainin if they lowered the price, regardless of BC. I can see that was a bold faced lies. It only proves nobody on this forum can be trusted. I'm truly. Can't we all be happy with what we have? Oh, and I happen to have a ps2 and ps3 with BC. Doesn't tske up alot of room. So don't be so stingy.

 

[Merteg]

Is it just me or does the PS3 fail every step of the way?

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Well, I certainly won't be buying a PS3 without PS2 backwards compatibility. I never owned a PS2 or PS1 and have many a classic to catch up on.

 

[Pendragon9]

Well, I certainly won't be buying a PS3 without PS2 backwards compatibility. I never owned a PS2 or PS1 and have many a classic to catch up on.

Of course, because owning both is a mortal sin. I gotcha.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Well, I certainly won't be buying a PS3 without PS2 backwards compatibility. I never owned a PS2 or PS1 and have many a classic to catch up on.

Of course, because owning both is a mortal sin. I gotcha.

Why should I but two consoles when Sony has proved that one can do the job of both but they're too sleazy to provide me with a product that is all that it should be?

 

[scotth266]

It looks like I'll be sitting out until the next Sony console arrives.

I doubt that will play PS2 games either.

Oh no, it'll have backwards compatibility, but only when the console comes out initially. That seems to be the way Sony operates with BC: I've opened up to their game.

I don't know, the PS2 can still play PS1 games to this day. I think.

When the PS4 comes out, I'll grab one ASAP, and laugh when BC is inevitably cut later on.

I'd like to say that I'm not feeling a bit like this right now, and if I still played on my PS2 games I probably would. But I just can't see why people would make a big deal out of this? If you really want to play PS2 games, then you should really have a PS2 knocking about somewhere (Mines in France, don't ask; long story) and if you don't, well, there are 28 used slim line PS2 for sale on Amazon right now for £44 each [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-Slimline-Console-Black/dp/B00023HUMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1250811605&sr=8-1].
Admittedly, that's in the UK, so little use to you. But I bet you can find a good deal somewhere! Normal PS2 are cheap as chips these days.

I must have gotten the one PS2 that decides to not play PS games then, because whenever I tried it it resulted in massive failure. I knew that the older versions had BC: I just presumed that it had been removed. I'll have to double-check my manual to figure it out.

And the reason I want the console to have BC is quite simple: while I do have a PS2 at the moment, I have two brothers, both of whom currently share it. The console isn't mine per se: I just have plenty of games for it, and when I leave for college, the PS2 has to stay here.

I don't feel like getting two consoles when I could have one, for several reasons.

Also, to those who keep going on about how Microsoft's stance on BC has been lackluster: at least they still have the ABILITY to add/improve the quality of BC on their console.

 

[Pendragon9]

Well, I certainly won't be buying a PS3 without PS2 backwards compatibility. I never owned a PS2 or PS1 and have many a classic to catch up on.

Of course, because owning both is a mortal sin. I gotcha.

Why should I but two consoles when Sony has proved that one can do the job of both but they're too sleazy to provide me with a product that is all that it should be?

Because there's no problem with buying both consoles. And the ps2 beats ps2 emulation, according to everyone here. Unless you wanna say that was untrue and jyst something you said so you could continue hating the ps3

 

[ShadowKatt]

For all the people that are screaming at us, the people that wanted backwards compatibility, I'll give you a reason: I wasn't lucky enough to get a first or second wave PS3. I'm not lucky enough to have rich parents, I don't have a trust fund, and I don't have friends around me willing to fork out money. And I also have bills to pay, so paying $400-600 for a console wasn't really an option. Backwards compatibility was something I desired in the console because I do play my old playstation 2 and PSONE games, but now if I waht to play them, I have to crawl behind my television and change cables. And I don't want people quoting me and saying "Well you're a dumbass, just use this cable", that's not the point. The point is, it's a game console, it's a form of entertainment, and because of Sonys brilliant idea, now if I want to play an older game, I have to weigh how much I want to play with whether it's worth the effort to change out all the hardware.

You know, as someone earlier posted, these are all really good reasons to switch to PC gaming, and since I bought a PS3 with the hope that there would be a backwards compatible download later on, this news pushes me right to the edge of walking away from Sony. I've carried the party line, but I'm not masochistic, and I know better to stick with a company that doesn't treat me well. Hopefully there's more people out there that feel like I do.