Sony can't really insult Nintendo, I'm sure they had a partnership years ago.
Honestly, they should just join hands and sing round the campfire!
Honestly, they should just join hands and sing round the campfire!
Sony President Says Xbox 360 Lacks "Longevity"
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I agree with his point about Nintendo; people who would have bought a PS3 are still going to buy one even if they bought a Wii also. I heavily doubt their sales are effective.
However, this constant sniping at the 360 is getting rather old. It's already been three years since the 360's launch, and the old girl still seems to have a lot of life to live. I personally would be prepared to buy a new Xbox console in two or three years time, as I'd have already spent six years with it. Sony's over-confidence in their product may well lead to their downfall. Look at what happened to Sega. They really need to start viewing the 360 as serious competition, as many people I know who were die-hard PS and PS2 fans are shrugging and buying a 360, not seeing that the grass is growing to well on Sony's side of the bridge. And whilst the 360's grass may not be as long and green in many patches, Sony have got to realise that the harsh sun of recession IS shining down on them, and that most consumers (being those who are maybe not as informed as you or I bear in mind) will be thinking in the short term. What games do they have now? What do they cost? Is Blu Ray they great? And do I really want to have to buy an HDTV to see all the benefits of the more expensive console. In games terms, it depends what you're in to, but as it stands, the 360's library can't be disregarded. I myself much prefer it.
I'll admit, I'm always gonna be biased against Sony no matter whose running against it, after what they did to Sega. However, I wish them well, and hope the PS3 gets back on track, as you always need two decent consoles for the hardcore gamer to keep competitiveness thriving. But Sony isn't fighting back, because they think they've already won.
However, this constant sniping at the 360 is getting rather old. It's already been three years since the 360's launch, and the old girl still seems to have a lot of life to live. I personally would be prepared to buy a new Xbox console in two or three years time, as I'd have already spent six years with it. Sony's over-confidence in their product may well lead to their downfall. Look at what happened to Sega. They really need to start viewing the 360 as serious competition, as many people I know who were die-hard PS and PS2 fans are shrugging and buying a 360, not seeing that the grass is growing to well on Sony's side of the bridge. And whilst the 360's grass may not be as long and green in many patches, Sony have got to realise that the harsh sun of recession IS shining down on them, and that most consumers (being those who are maybe not as informed as you or I bear in mind) will be thinking in the short term. What games do they have now? What do they cost? Is Blu Ray they great? And do I really want to have to buy an HDTV to see all the benefits of the more expensive console. In games terms, it depends what you're in to, but as it stands, the 360's library can't be disregarded. I myself much prefer it.
I'll admit, I'm always gonna be biased against Sony no matter whose running against it, after what they did to Sega. However, I wish them well, and hope the PS3 gets back on track, as you always need two decent consoles for the hardcore gamer to keep competitiveness thriving. But Sony isn't fighting back, because they think they've already won.
Well if you mean pointing out that they have the best value for money console is some how petty then by all means keep fooling youself.Knight Templar said:
This is how ever what they need to be doing, far too many people really believe the Xbox is cheaper then the PS3 or that a console which was designed to last maybe 4-6 years (heat sensitive parts almost right next to heat generating parts, I C WAT U DID THERE MICROSOFT)is reliable because microsoft will fix it when it dies.
Although potentially it may seem like PS3 are being petty, because their strengths (value, console power + reliability) are the 360s weaknesses.
You're talking like a General Motors design team. "OMG the Escalade has lots of strengths, it's the most comfortable SUV on the market!" Maybe, but folks aren't necessarily looking for upscale SUVs right now. The "correct" marketing approach is not to convince us that we all want SUVs, because mid-sized cars cost more if you buy a trailer to match the cargo room and digital satellite radio because that's not included in mid-sized cars, and then dismiss compact cars as not the market they were targeting.Indigo_Dingo said:
The PS3 might be cheaper if you want everything that's included, but if you don't care about Blu-ray and already use an Ethernet-based network then the 360 beats it in price. Add in that the console was the last-in of this current run, and that Sony's done a middling- to poor job of promoting its titles so there's little excitement about the platform in game circles, and you get the sales that Sony's getting these days.
Sony's marketing team needs a shake-up, at least here in North America and probably world-wide; given that interview I don't see one coming.
-- Steve
If it were not for how snobby and egotistic Sony and in particular, their president, I would not be so inclined to put down the PS3, and would simply be the system "I don't like" but it is when the supporters take things too far that it really bothers me. Besides, consoles generally come out ever 4-6 years and the PS2 might not last 10 years if the PS3 was good enough to get the people still playing PS2 to upgrade. (And I do love the PS2 since unlike th PS3 it is actually great.)
Well, he's at least right in one thing. The PS3 is not competing with the Wii.
Competition implies that there is some kind of consumer decision process going on, and consumers aren't even making decisions, they're just buying Wiis.
Competition implies that there is some kind of consumer decision process going on, and consumers aren't even making decisions, they're just buying Wiis.
PS1 lasted 6 yrs before PS2, then 5 more yrs after that.xitel said:
Ps2 lasted 5 yrs before PS3, then probably 5 more years after that .
Sony's Console marketing cycle is basically to launch a new system halfway during the anticipated lifespan of the system that is out now
As for 'how can any console compare to PS3 because it has blu ray, that's just mental, sure there's going to be the occasional game that wont fit on the 360's discs, but the way I see it, if GTA 4 can go multiformat, with the size of the game, and the amount of content on it, I don't think we're going to be missing much just because the 360 doesn't have 50gb discs.
I think maybe the new final fantasy will need it, as it'll no doubt be packed with blu ray quality FMV, but that's about it.
Note I own neither console but I've had a fair bit of time with each machine, having a friend with each.
As someone above stated, most gamers won't give a damn in the end about the console they're playing, so long as they're getting access to the games they want. For me, I'm still tempted to get a 360, for Dead Rising and a few other games, but I'll hold out for the next price drop I think.
As for reliability, whatever happened to consoles like the SNES, you could kick one of those down the stairs then put it in the dishwasher for a super wash, and it'd still carry on working, seems the current gen of consoles quit on you if you dare cough in the same room.
(not that I want to kick any of the machines downstairs at the moment!)
I think maybe the new final fantasy will need it, as it'll no doubt be packed with blu ray quality FMV, but that's about it.
Note I own neither console but I've had a fair bit of time with each machine, having a friend with each.
As someone above stated, most gamers won't give a damn in the end about the console they're playing, so long as they're getting access to the games they want. For me, I'm still tempted to get a 360, for Dead Rising and a few other games, but I'll hold out for the next price drop I think.
As for reliability, whatever happened to consoles like the SNES, you could kick one of those down the stairs then put it in the dishwasher for a super wash, and it'd still carry on working, seems the current gen of consoles quit on you if you dare cough in the same room.
(not that I want to kick any of the machines downstairs at the moment!)
I know people with the red ring too. He could have just said "The Xbox 360 is a pile of junk".mattttherman3 said:
Jumplion said:
You know I didn't really agree with you, but after mentioning PC I see your point.
Look, I'm not saying the wii isn't competition with the PS3/360, of course it is, but that's generally speaking.Knight Templar said:
The Wii and PS3 are aiming at two different markets, but that doesn't mean that the other market wouldn't consider buying the other console.
It's a trend I've see recently, all the people that I know who have Wii's have PS3's, and the people who have 360s only have 360s. This is what I've seen though, don't quote me on that.
