Sony's Tretton: PS3 Winning is "Best For Industry"

[Caliostro]

Oh and dont forget the newest demographic, "family time". I also think its a weak standard to hold gamers to graphical quality or online activity as far as what defines them. Yes those things make a game better but imo they dont make a game.
Give me true innovation like a "motion controll system" (Or what im really looking for "Nural reader device") and I will show you whats best for the industry.

I'm guessing you're posting this from a computer... And if you're reading this you're not watching porn so: Look at what your right hand is holding. Or left hand if you're a lefty... See that funny thing? Funny shape eh? You know what it does? Track motion. Yeah! Amazingly innovative technology, and you've been using it for years!


Ok, ok. I'm aware that the addition of a third dimension to the "Motion controllers" was an important and difficult step in hardware developing as you need to track your motion itself and not it's relative position to a surface (like the mouse) blablabla... I'm aware of all this, yet the mouse is still better than the wiimote... Is it the fact that Wiimote doesn't really work that well at all? Possibly. Is it the fact that we're so used to the mouse that the wiimote just doesn't feel the same and thus we're biased? Maybe. Is it the fact that, lacking the physical support of the traditional table, motion controllers simply have no physical feedback of any kind and inevitably feel like you're flailing a cheap piece of plastic around that poorly reproduces the movement you're mimicking? Quite likely...


The bottom line, technologies take long to perfect, and this one is far from perfect. I honestly prefer companies work on making GOOD games than gimmicky "work arounds" to divert people's attentions from how much the game sucks...

 

[fix-the-spade]

"I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo"

Here speaks Sony's Jack Tretton, representative for the company that brought us the light gun, in home virtual reality, touch screen based gaming, motion controls to the mass market and real world interaction with virtual games!

Oh, wait...

 

[Croaker42]

Oh and dont forget the newest demographic, "family time". I also think its a weak standard to hold gamers to graphical quality or online activity as far as what defines them. Yes those things make a game better but imo they dont make a game.
Give me true innovation like a "motion controll system" (Or what im really looking for "Nural reader device") and I will show you whats best for the industry.

I'm guessing you're posting this from a computer... And if you're reading this you're not watching porn so: Look at what your right hand is holding. Or left hand if you're a lefty... See that funny thing? Funny shape eh? You know what it does? Track motion. Yeah! Amazingly innovative technology, and you've been using it for years!


Ok, ok. I'm aware that the addition of a third dimension to the "Motion controllers" was an important and difficult step in hardware developing as you need to track your motion itself and not it's relative position to a surface (like the mouse) blablabla... I'm aware of all this, yet the mouse is still better than the wiimote... Is it the fact that Wiimote doesn't really work that well at all? Possibly. Is it the fact that we're so used to the mouse that the wiimote just doesn't feel the same and thus we're biased? Maybe. Is it the fact that, lacking the physical support of the traditional table, motion controllers simply have no physical feedback of any kind and inevitably feel like you're flailing a cheap piece of plastic around that poorly reproduces the movement you're mimicking? Quite likely...


The bottom line, technologies take long to perfect, and this one is far from perfect. I honestly prefer companies work on making GOOD games than gimmicky "work arounds" to divert people's attentions from how much the game sucks...

No im on a microwave. Not using any hands.
Lol Or you can pump a game so full of "good" graphics and just skimp on the fun game part. We have seen more then enough of that lately.
I would also like to point out that the mouse has had a good amount of time to work out the kinks. Your not using a trackball are you? Have more then two buttons? It wasnt this way over night.
I for one look forward to the progression to 3 dimension motion controlls.

..........Or I can just upgrade my mouse.

 

[fix-the-spade]

And what would the alternative be when this supposed megaconsole maker decides that it wants to start charging everybody $120 to play games on it?

Piracy!

I wouldn't endorse it, but it seems to be the standard reaction now that when a game(s) starts getting price hikes it gets pirated to Monte Cristo and back.

 

[logiman]

Most people who are buying the new PS3 already have a 360..most fanboys got a PS3 a long time ago..though Sony would have sold trice as much if they had FF XIII and Tekken 6 for themselves (and Metal Gear: Risen).

 

[MrBrightside919]

Even though I don't agree with the whole CEO tooting his own horn idea....he does have a point...

If sony ever tanked in the industry, it wouldn't be a good thing...generally speaking...

...although I wouldn't say sony is "winning"

 

[asinann]

I would have thought the best thing for the industry, and the consumer would be a collaboration between the big 3. Single console to buy, single platform to develop for, shared risk, no fan-boys, many other benefits.

But know one will listen.

And what would the alternative be when this supposed megaconsole maker decides that it wants to start charging everybody $120 to play games on it?

Happened once, remember the Neo-Geo? $200 games and an $800 console, nobody bought the stupid thing.

Jebus, I would love to see the fantasy world that Tretton lives in.

the PlayStation's "worldwide" appeal

World wide appeal? I think not senior Tretton; maybe you're head is so far up your ass that you can't see that at this point in time the playstation appeals to very VERY few people. Then again when you've got a legion of ravenous fanboys who are upset they spent all their money on a giant black paper weight you can be in all the denial you want.

yes cause 20+ million people are very few ...

seriously go look at some sales stats of the PS3, in Japan the phrase "crushing the 360 in sales" would be a vast understatement. the past few weeks the PS3 has sold more than 10x the amount of the 360

the one who really doesn't have a clue about it is you. especially if you think on one buys it or wants it.

on topic tho, i do think that he is correct. the PS3 decided to use stuff like the blu-ray drive and the misunderstood sixaxxis controller. moving forward in technology is really best for the consumer, using the same old stuff in your console only hurts us as gamers

It's not "worldwide appeal" if you've sold 20 million consoles worldwide and 15 million of them were sold in Japan.

 

[VanityGirl]

*sigh* This guy needs to shut up.
He's not selling Sony to anyone by saying that it has worldwide appeal.

 

[Syntax Man]

I hate sony, this man is just so arrogant

 

[Treblaine]

I don't care what's best for the industry, I care about what is best for ME, the consumer. That means more games like Uncharted 2, I mean why did Sony make console with such a convoluted design that only 1st party developers who are walked though and supported the entire way can unlock the full potential?

Too many (actually a majority) of multiplatform games have been inferior on PS3 and too many other developers simply don't want to work on PS3 for design issues.

And true the industry needs competition. The best generations are when no one wins, like N64 vs PS1, I consider a draw and got the best out of both.

Also:

>>>

O.0

it's like father and son!

 

[GonzoGamer]

When are they going to take my advise and gag all of the sony execs?
I like my ps3 (and my old psp), I just with the people behind it weren't total idiots.

a one-sided domination means that there is little incentive to improve on the next iteration of the console.

Ironically enough, this is the one reason I hope Jack is right. If the 360 dominates this generation, the makers of the next generation of consoles will see that as long as they're out first and get exclusive rights to franchises the actual machine can be overpriced (unfortunately all the consoles this gen were overpriced) and burst into flames and plenty of people will still buy it.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

It's not "worldwide appeal" if you've sold 20 million consoles worldwide and 15 million of them were sold in Japan.

ummm sorry even that's stupid to claim and even say. i mean that's like saying the 360 has a 10% failure rate

even according to an article here on The Escapist, they showed that the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 in the same time frame

 

[Teh_Doomage]

I see it as best for Sony...not best for me. For me, cheaper games, cheaper systems, a good catalog of games, that's what matters. Not that you are making the most money...that's just business that the consumer doesn't really care about.

If you put out quality products, you tend to make more money then if you make a subpar product.

 

[AceDiamond]

An executive praising his own machine, what a surprise!

Still, Trenton's a nice guy, much better than Kaz anyway.

Has he paid all the people who found PS3's in stock when he said there wouldn't be?

a one-sided domination means that there is little incentive to improve on the next iteration of the console.

I agree with this, however PS2's one-sided domination of the market actually did cause a huge incentive for Nintendo and Microsoft to find ways to combat that. However I think the model of actual competition (i.e. the way it went up until the PS2 came out) is a much better way of doing things than having one company completely run over the others each generation, even if the "new" way resulted in Nintendo branching out in finding innovative ways to control games.

As for Sony winning being best for the industry? Well, consider the source. Also consider that many people stopped at the PS2.

 

[TPiddy]

yes cause 20+ million people are very few ...

seriously go look at some sales stats of the PS3, in Japan the phrase "crushing the 360 in sales" would be a vast understatement. the past few weeks the PS3 has sold more than 10x the amount of the 360

the one who really doesn't have a clue about it is you. especially if you think on one buys it or wants it.

on topic tho, i do think that he is correct. the PS3 decided to use stuff like the blu-ray drive and the misunderstood sixaxxis controller. moving forward in technology is really best for the consumer, using the same old stuff in your console only hurts us as gamers

Yes, and this has nothing to do with the fact that Sony is from Japan and Microsoft is not? There are whole lot of hurdles and roadblocks the 360 has to go through to get sold in Japan. It's not that the Japanese people don't like it, it's that they can't get it as easily.

Also, PS3 has way more games that appeal to Japanese audiences, like Valkyria Chronicles, Final Fantasy and the like. You can't use a statistic like Japanese sales in this argument.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Yes, and this has nothing to do with the fact that Sony is from Japan and Microsoft is not? There are whole lot of hurdles and roadblocks the 360 has to go through to get sold in Japan. It's not that the Japanese people don't like it, it's that they can't get it as easily.

Also, PS3 has way more games that appeal to Japanese audiences, like Valkyria Chronicles, Final Fantasy and the like. You can't use a statistic like Japanese sales in this argument.

yes you can, then simply you can't use the sales stats of the 360 in North America if you want to compare consoles because m$ is an american company

the thing about Japan is it has NOTHING to do with them not being able to get the 360, it's them not WANTING the 360. the xbox was a failure in Japan, they even stopped selling it before the 360 was released in Japan.

seriously go look up some stuff about how well the xbox did in Japan and how much they tried to get a foot in the door with the original xbox, the 360 really hasn't fared that much better

 

[TPiddy]

yes you can, then simply you can't use the sales stats of the 360 in North America if you want to compare consoles because m$ is an american company

the thing about Japan is it has NOTHING to do with them not being able to get the 360, it's them not WANTING the 360. the xbox was a failure in Japan, they even stopped selling it before the 360 was released in Japan.

seriously go look up some stuff about how well the xbox did in Japan and how much they tried to get a foot in the door with the original xbox, the 360 really hasn't fared that much better

You can't tell me that Sony doesn't have an unfair advantage in the Japanese market, whether it be through availability, pricing or through games and game developers. The 360 even put out a few good JRPG's and games that would appeal to your typical Japanese gamer like Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey, but it doesn't seem to take with them for some reason.

I just don't feel the Japanese have given it a fair chance. As for America, Sony was in the American market well before Xbox first came out, but it's been an uphill battle for Microsoft to get any of the Japanese market.

It says something about the console when the only place you beat your rival in is your home country.

 

[asinann]

It's not "worldwide appeal" if you've sold 20 million consoles worldwide and 15 million of them were sold in Japan.

ummm sorry even that's stupid to claim and even say. i mean that's like saying the 360 has a 10% failure rate

even according to an article here on The Escapist, they showed that the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 in the same time frame

PS3 dominates in Japan, 360 dominates in North America (a much larger market) and in Europe sales are about even (still tilted towards the 360.)

Recent sales not withstanding, the PS3 doesn't have a large fan base outside of Japan.

The Wii is outselling both of them everywhere anyway, so neither of them is going to win the console war.

PC rules them all anyway since you want to play fanboi today.