Sony's Tretton: PS3 Winning is "Best For Industry"

[Jsnoopy]

Yes, because we saw how good of a job they did when the PS2 won the last console wars. At least at first. Now your doing much better Sony.

 

[Motiv_]

I quite frankly am not surprised. CEO's, and other executives, are constantly gloating about how amazing their systems are, how much they are dominating the market, and how much the other's systems are shit. Just like Car Insurance.

"This 'completely generic name that could be one of thousands of people' person saved 'completely random large amount of money' by switching from 'competition's name here' to 'insert name here'"

Basically the same thing.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

You can't tell me that Sony doesn't have an unfair advantage in the Japanese market, whether it be through availability, pricing or through games and game developers. The 360 even put out a few good JRPG's and games that would appeal to your typical Japanese gamer like Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey, but it doesn't seem to take with them for some reason.

I just don't feel the Japanese have given it a fair chance. As for America, Sony was in the American market well before Xbox first came out, but it's been an uphill battle for Microsoft to get any of the Japanese market.

It says something about the console when the only place you beat your rival in is your home country.

maybe it's because of the fact that the Japanese realize what type of company m$ is and won't buy their products cause they make bad stuff? with the original xbox the controller and games were a huge issue, this time around it's the RROD and the lack of good games that is causing it.

it is also due to the fact that m$ doesn't tailor itself to the Japanese crowds. have you seen how many different versions of the PS and Nintendo lines that have been released there? they've got a ton of crazy bundles, special editions and various other things. the xbox and the 360 have had the exact same things that we've had

it's not an uphill battle, it's them trying to force feed their wares on everyone the same way and one whole market giving them the middle finger because the other companies are doing what they want to do

PS3 dominates in Japan, 360 dominates in North America (a much larger market) and in Europe sales are about even (still tilted towards the 360.)

Recent sales not withstanding, the PS3 doesn't have a large fan base outside of Japan.

The Wii is outselling both of them everywhere anyway, so neither of them is going to win the console war.

PC rules them all anyway since you want to play fanboi today.

actually the sales are tilted towards the PS3 in europe and always have been, the 360 has sold "more" because it's been out longer and that's the game they are playing. they say "oh we've sold X 360s in this area and we're way ahead of the PS3" but if you pay attention to the numbers and length of time both have been out, you'll see where the sale slant actually lies. so 27 million 360 in 36 months isn't as good as 25 million PS3s in 24 months, you can find sales stats for them on the web, do the math and you'd be surprised

also the WII sales are starting to slip cause of lack of games and stuff for it. even in Japan the 2 biggest sellers at the moment are the DSi and the PS3

i'm not being a fanboy, i'm just stating facts for the amount of crap that people like to portray as the truth

 

[TPiddy]

Agree with cleverlymadeup.
Also, being an RPG fanatic, in my personal (read personal) opinion that 2 of the 3 you listed were garbage. Lost Odyssey was okay, not great, but okay. I agree with you that Valkyria Chronicles and Final Fantasy are far superior to the 360 games you mentionned.
Eternal Sonata is on PS3 as well and it bored me to tears.

Please don't turn this thread into another flame war TPiddy.

cleverlymadeup, using M$ in the place of MS or Microsoft is trolling and just asking to get flamed.

**flameshield activated**

Wow... "flame", "troll", "garbage" all in your post yet you accuse cleverly and I of trying to start flame wars?

Nobody cares if he refers to MS by M$, nobody is going to defend a mega-corporation like Microsoft, especially against allegations that it's greedy. That's just a losing argument.

My post did not mention anything about which games were good or which were bad, I simply listed some games that I thought were targeted towards the Japanese market, but did little to boost sales.

You brought the game comparison in as well as the opinions. Please don't interject yourself into another conversation and spread this crap and then accuse us of trying to do the same.

 

[hypothetical fact]

Agree with cleverlymadeup.
Also, being an RPG fanatic, in my personal (read personal) opinion that 2 of the 3 you listed were garbage. Lost Odyssey was okay, not great, but okay. I agree with you that Valkyria Chronicles and Final Fantasy are far superior to the 360 games you mentionned.
Eternal Sonata is on PS3 as well and it bored me to tears.

Please don't turn this thread into another flame war TPiddy.

cleverlymadeup, using M$ in the place of MS or Microsoft is trolling and just asking to get flamed.

**flameshield activated**

Wow... "flame", "troll", "garbage" all in your post yet you accuse cleverly and I of trying to start flame wars?

Nobody cares if he refers to MS by M$, nobody is going to defend a mega-corporation like Microsoft, especially against allegations that it's greedy. That's just a losing argument.

We all know that microsoft is gredy and only wants money. The stupidity of using m$ instead of ms is that Sony and every other company in the fucking world also just want money. Using m$ or $ony is just trolling on the same level as going "PS3hasnogaems", we all know it's pointless bullshit but it is inflamatory and distracts from the topic.

Also when can we have: Average consumer:Cheaper consoles are "Best for Industry"

 

[asinann]

You can't tell me that Sony doesn't have an unfair advantage in the Japanese market, whether it be through availability, pricing or through games and game developers. The 360 even put out a few good JRPG's and games that would appeal to your typical Japanese gamer like Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey, but it doesn't seem to take with them for some reason.

I just don't feel the Japanese have given it a fair chance. As for America, Sony was in the American market well before Xbox first came out, but it's been an uphill battle for Microsoft to get any of the Japanese market.

It says something about the console when the only place you beat your rival in is your home country.

maybe it's because of the fact that the Japanese realize what type of company m$ is and won't buy their products cause they make bad stuff? with the original xbox the controller and games were a huge issue, this time around it's the RROD and the lack of good games that is causing it.

it is also due to the fact that m$ doesn't tailor itself to the Japanese crowds. have you seen how many different versions of the PS and Nintendo lines that have been released there? they've got a ton of crazy bundles, special editions and various other things. the xbox and the 360 have had the exact same things that we've had

it's not an uphill battle, it's them trying to force feed their wares on everyone the same way and one whole market giving them the middle finger because the other companies are doing what they want to do

PS3 dominates in Japan, 360 dominates in North America (a much larger market) and in Europe sales are about even (still tilted towards the 360.)

Recent sales not withstanding, the PS3 doesn't have a large fan base outside of Japan.

The Wii is outselling both of them everywhere anyway, so neither of them is going to win the console war.

PC rules them all anyway since you want to play fanboi today.

actually the sales are tilted towards the PS3 in europe and always have been, the 360 has sold "more" because it's been out longer and that's the game they are playing. they say "oh we've sold X 360s in this area and we're way ahead of the PS3" but if you pay attention to the numbers and length of time both have been out, you'll see where the sale slant actually lies. so 27 million 360 in 36 months isn't as good as 25 million PS3s in 24 months, you can find sales stats for them on the web, do the math and you'd be surprised

also the WII sales are starting to slip cause of lack of games and stuff for it. even in Japan the 2 biggest sellers at the moment are the DSi and the PS3

i'm not being a fanboy, i'm just stating facts for the amount of crap that people like to portray as the truth

No, you ARE being a fanboy. The number of "good games" that are exclusive to the PS3 is so small it's almost non-existent. There are a few that you will scream are the "greatest evar" and in all honesty aren't all that much better in anything except graphics than a PS2 game.

The same goes for the others as well though, except that the 360 locked up enough exclusives to sell units in Japan while the PS3 had such a rough start that stores were giving away flat screens to people who bought a PS3. Most people I know that own a PS3 use it as a Blu-Ray player almost exclusively while I only own 2 PS3 games and have downloaded at least 10 PS1 games.

I own closer to 20 360 games (and I bought the systems about 2 months apart.) Keep in mind this whole console generation is hosed, there's too many FPS and sandbox games out there now since that is what keeps the masses entertained.

At least I can still get a good RPG on my PC.

And as for the current month's sales numbers, the only reason they are as high as they are for the PS3 anywhere at the moment, is because of the price cut. Go check the sales figures for every week before the price cuts. The numbers are already slipping on the PS3 too as the people who only delayed buying it because of the price get them.

 

[FROGGEman2]

I think he is right personally. Sony winning is the best for the industry. That industry being the Playstation industry of course...

Honestly, I don't see how Sony dominating the Market is good for me as a consumer. Expecially when their "Greatest Hits" games sell for $29.99, where MS and Nintendo sell theirs for $19.99.

*cough*That's because their greatest hits are better*cough*

KIDDING, OK? WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT SERVICE IN AUSTRALIA!!!

KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!(!!!)

But, that is truly very odd. He sounds... delusional to me.