SouthPark: Chinatown Wars Is Worth Thirty Shekels

oliveira8

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Bored Tomatoe said:
oliveira8 said:
I miss the days of the surreal stories in South park..like when the Father Maxis(or whatever its his name) goes to the Vatican and in the end we find out the Vatican is ruled by the Great Queen Spider, or Lemmiwinks tale and even the Alien taco that craps icecream...
Yeah, it has been a while since a really bizzare episode... But they are beginning to lean torwards a more realistic satire than a trippy, surreal experience. That isn't to say it isn't good, and the show has evolved greatly over the years from a simple slapstick, to a bizarre sit-com like endevour, to a sharp satire of politics and pop culture.
Now its more satire like Asterix(I just compared South Park to Asterix...I rule!)...many episodes had alot of satire and trippy adventures. Like the one I said where Father Maxis goes to the Vatican. Were the boys find that the Earth is just one big reality show and its getting cancelled. The whole episode was one weird adventure in alien planets, a clever parody of the show itself and a satire at reality shows.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Perhaps it's for the best, because the final punchline - which I won't mention here - will largely only make sense to the American audience.
How's that? You seem to assume that because most Americans only follow what's happening in America, that therefore the rest of us must only be following what's happening in our own countries.

Was there really a more subtle subtext behind the "punchline" beyond pointing out the obvious folly of placing blame, praise or hope in political leaders, that one would have to be living in America to be able to understand? I know for a lot of people it's approaching hero worship, but it's a mistake that Americans and indeed the rest of humanity have been committing since, and until, time immemorial.

I watched Obama's second prime-time press conference live on the BBC the other night; very interesting, but he's just a figurehead, like the others before him. He doesn't come up with the ideas, and I don't think the Republicans would be doing anything substantially different were they in his position.

There was one jerk reporter saying we have to declare war on the recession, and asking why the president isn't proposing some specific, single thing which people will have to "sacrifice" in the name of said war.
 

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Doug said:
Although "Team America" didn't impress me - it was just naff, not funny naff like South Park's animation, just naff-naff. Add to that, pretty much ended up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'
Oh irony, why hast thou forsaken us?
 

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South park aint relevant or funny no more.
Out of curiosity, what was the last episode of South Park that you saw? 'Cause I watch it on a regular basis. It's one of the few TV shows I still watch.

Name me any episode and I can tell you how I find it relevant/funny. Granted, what I find relevant or funny may not be to you, but that is all the more reason that posts like yours- the make general statements based entirely on your opinion- are a waste of space.

Feel free to prove me wrong.
 

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oktalist said:
Doug said:
Although "Team America" didn't impress me - it was just naff, not funny naff like South Park's animation, just naff-naff. Add to that, pretty much ended up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'
Oh irony, why hast thou forsaken us?
Actually, they seriously believe it:

From wiki said:
In another interview, Parker and Stone further clarified that in the end the film seeks to justify the role of the United States as the "World Police".[11]

Because that's the thing that we realized when we were making the movie. It was always the hardest thing. We wanted to deal with this emotion of being hated as an American. That was the thing that was intriguing to us, and having Gary (the main character) deal with that emotion. And so, him becoming ashamed to be a part of Team America and being ashamed of himself, he comes to realize that, just as he got his brother killed by gorillas -- he didn't kill his brother; he was a dick, he wasn't an asshole -- so too does America have this role in the world as a dick. Cops are dicks, you fucking hate cops, but you need 'em.
 

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Doug said:
oktalist said:
Doug said:
Although "Team America" didn't impress me - it was just naff, not funny naff like South Park's animation, just naff-naff. Add to that, pretty much ended up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'
Oh irony, why hast thou forsaken us?
Actually, they seriously believe it:

From wiki said:
Irony and subtlety, then. Seriously, the world is not black and white, left and right, right and wrong. There's world police and there's world police. There's the policeman helping kitties out of trees and there's the policeman cracking skulls at a pro-democracy protest.

It didn't "pretty much end up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'" More like "America == a dick, but we need it." And anyway, to judge a film by its final 5 minutes is to fail at film criticism.
 
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oktalist said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Perhaps it's for the best, because the final punchline - which I won't mention here - will largely only make sense to the American audience.
How's that? You seem to assume that because most Americans only follow what's happening in America, that therefore the rest of us must only be following what's happening in our own countries.
Without wanting to give away the ending, most Non-Americans won't have been subject to the barrage of news reporting that tippifies the ending. We can still follow the joke, but it doesn't hit quite as close to home for us.
 

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oktalist said:
Doug said:
oktalist said:
Doug said:
Although "Team America" didn't impress me - it was just naff, not funny naff like South Park's animation, just naff-naff. Add to that, pretty much ended up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'
Oh irony, why hast thou forsaken us?
Actually, they seriously believe it:

From wiki said:
Irony and subtlety, then. Seriously, the world is not black and white, left and right, right and wrong. There's world police and there's world police. There's the policeman helping kitties out of trees and there's the policeman cracking skulls at a pro-democracy protest.

It didn't "pretty much end up as 'America === teh best in world!!1!!!!!11!'" More like "America == a dick, but we need it." And anyway, to judge a film by its final 5 minutes is to fail at film criticism.
America (as a political international body) is more "World Mafia boss" that police. I meant, they dipose governments that don't co-operate if they have oil (see old Iran and pre-Saddam Iraq) - they veto everything in the UN that could make a difference that would affect there interests (see Isarael). And supporting Uzbekistan who's government reportly boiled at least 2 political opponents to death.

But ignoring the politics, I didn't like the movie - it come off as stupid stupid, not stupid funny, if you get my meaning. Although I will admit to chuckling at the gun-ho use of rocket launchers to try and kill terrorists which end up blowing up several famous building around the world, but really, alot of the jokes just fell flat for me, and the puppets just didn't work as a parody for me. A South park style cartoon would have worked better, I think.
 

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Watched the episode this morning on Megavideo, I thought it was really good.
Theres like 5 different messages wrapped up in one story, which is one of the joys of South Park.

On the surface theres the economic crisis.
Then theres the Jesus thing.
Theres a small bit where Cartman applies some Nazi logic about how the Jews caused the recession.
Then theres the false information concerning the recession when Randy tells them to stop spending.

People may not find it as funny as Family Guy but the writing is a hell of a lot smarter than random tangents of plot that don't make sense.
 

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South Park hasn't been funny (to me, anyways), since season 10. Season 11 had it's moments (hell, it brought us Imaginationland), but season 12 was a total wash.

With season 13 looking much the same, I'm thinking I'll just hole up and watch some reruns, and just pretend it isn't on the air any more. What a shame.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
The episode [http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/220760/] can be viewed over at Comedy Central. Sadly, non-US dwellers are faced with the standard [Denied] page.

Perhaps it's for the best, because the final punchline - which I won't mention here - will largely only make sense to the American audience.

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False - anyone with an Internet connection in the Czech Republic can watch every episode of South Park at southparkstudios.com.

And I don't get how the final punchline would only make sense to an American audience, though we may be talking about different punchlines (I'm referring to the very last scene).

Anyway, the episode was ok - the previous two were funnier, this one was more intelligent. Glad to see that South Park is still sharp, unlike Family Guy and The Simpsons (those are the only other animated prime time shows I watch these days - are American Dad and King of the Hill worth watching?).
 

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I've seen the episode, couldn't stop laughing for the most part. i thought it was done very well, as for the cause of the current economic crisis, I found their points very valid. These two don't just try to get a laugh, their episodes are almost infomercials on current events.
 

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I like watching South Park... Mainly because it shows opinions of real life issues from the view of the other side.

For example the episode Red Man's Greed where the indian casino takes over South Park and the citizens protest and use the spirit of their elders just like the idians did when "the white man" took their land. XD

Other good ones are their parody's like of course the Make Love Not Warcraft episode and Night of the Living Homeless where they just make fun of all the zombie movies. They also do a lot of piss taking from celebrities too.

However I don't like and prefer not to watch some of their episodes like Elementary School Musical, Scot Tennorman Must Die and Stanleys Cup which are just sad episodes that dont make me laugh at all.
 

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ohellynot said:
I never really liked south park, then again I am more mature that 12 year olds
I'm 20 and I still watch South Park. It's a great show.

It's not aimed at kids anyway.