Spider-Man 4 Delayed, Could Warcraft Be Next?

Tarkand

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Main problem with Spider-Man 3 was the 'too many villains going on at the same time' and 'force feeded emotional issues'... not to mention that many characters litteraly 'de-volved' back to pre-Spider-Man 2 mindset. It was a storytelling mess.

However, the Sandman looked pretty cool, a lot of the fights were really great, the movie was overall funny (It's mainly when it tried to be dramatic that it failed). And while it didn't really have anything to do with the way the comic portrayed it, I thought emo-parker was hilarious.

It wasn't by any mean a good movie (it was fairly bad), but it wasn't atrocious either.

It seems people's hate of spider-man 3 is very closely linked to how dear Venom is has a character to them. Many younger spidey fan started reading in the 90s, where Venom was a big deal. Or they never read comics and just watch the animated serie, which also made a big deal of Venom. A lot of them were infuriated to see what they consider the 'greatest' spidey villain ever so poorly handled.

I took a break from comic book right before Venom was introduced and kinda missed the whole deal. I came back to Marvel in the 2000s and well, Venom is still around, but his role has a spider-man villain has taken a backseat (What with being in the Thunderbolts, than Dark Avenger and the fact that Eddie Brock doesn't even wear the suit anymore) to other things. So venom's butchering didn't really bother me. I was much more annoyed at the flimsy 'The sandman is the guy who REALLY killed your uncle!' thing they threw in...
 

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Sam's got some great fare in his resume, and I hope Spiderman doesn't send him to loonyville. What makes me cringe is Sony being the studio where Warcraft gets produced. Seriously, who at Blizzard thought that was a good idea?
 

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SomeBritishDude said:
Agreeded. Part of the reason Venom didn't work in the movie is Rami was a fan of the comics up until about the 80's, before venom was even created (correct me if I'm wrong).
Nope, no, you are pretty much right. He was created by Todd McFarlane (the fine fellow who gave us the Spawn franchise) and his first major story was released in 1988.
 
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thebobmaster said:
arc1991 said:
Yog Sothoth said:
There was a third Spiderman movie...? That's funny, because all I can remember is a giant bucket of AIDS and fail...
i liked it, my mates liked it, even my grandma enjoyed it.

their was nothing wrong with it apart from the time it took from start to finish, other than that, i found it really good =)
No. There were other things wrong with it. Undoing all the character development from part 2 for drama, the new Green Goblin costume, and finally, emo Peter.
emo Peter was THE BEST! I'm sorry, but when I saw him going down the road overflowing with 'swag' and buying that suit, I laughed so hard I cried. It was like he was 12, and i frackin loved it. I could care less for the villains tho.
 

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Spiderman 4 should have two villains as well,but just balanced better. They need to do the lizard's story they've been setting up for, and they need to have mysterio played by bruce campbell (god). Hell then you could just use his cameos as part of his backstory! If they did this and left out all the symbiote bullshit, it would be a fantastic film.
 

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the_tralfalmadorian said:
Spiderman 4 should have two villains as well,but just balanced better. They need to do the lizard's story they've been setting up for, and they need to have mysterio played by bruce campbell (god). Hell then you could just use his cameos as part of his backstory! If they did this and left out all the symbiote bullshit, it would be a fantastic film.
Lizard and Mysterio played by Campbell sounds like win to me. If not, Lizard and Vulture doesn't seem that bad. But I would not couple Toomes with Beck. Too geeky.
 

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Kalezian said:
on a side note, anyone still questioning how a Warcraft movie could actually work? or did we finally settle on just a lore build-up?
I won't deny I actually liked reading some of the Warcraft Lore.. That WoW butchered to make it fit into a MMO.
 

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Just put '7-foot-brick-shithouse-of-satan' Venom instead of 'Ooh-I'm-Makin-Spiky-Webz' Venom in the Warcraft film, and all past sins will be forgiven. Have him and Saurfang in a deathmatch on top of, say, Deathwing. With a soundtrack by the unholy fusion of Metal and Orchestra with vocals by TBFKAL80ETC. I don't care if it doesn't make sense, jump to it Sam.

Sure, it'll be a very stupid film, but it'll be worth it for the perverse amusement it would bring me and about twenty other people who like that sort of thing. I'd watch it thrice. Seven times, even. I'd buy the DvD.
 

Callate

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If Raimi says he hates the offered script for Spiderman 4- especially if the writer was behind Spiderman 3- listen to the man.

In fairness, it sounds like the faults of Spiderman 3 should not be laid at a single doorstep. Still...
 

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klaynexas3 said:
spider man 4 will suck if it's written by the guy who wrote 3. bring back the writer for 2 and everyone will love it. or just scrap spider man and work on a warcraft series of movies, scrap it when it gets bad, then move to making a dragon age movie franchise, then sam raimi can die knowing he should've never made more than 2 movies a series.
The guy that wrote 3 also wrote 2, it's in the article.

On-topic: This delay is good only for the reason it postpones the horror that will be the Warcraft movie, even if it is for only a few months. I will believe all movies based on games are bad untill I find one that supparses it's source material in enjoyment.
 

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arc1991 said:
Yog Sothoth said:
There was a third Spiderman movie...? That's funny, because all I can remember is a giant bucket of AIDS and fail...
i liked it, my mates liked it, even my grandma enjoyed it.

their was nothing wrong with it apart from the time it took from start to finish, other than that, i found it really good =)
Yeah I didn't think Spider-Man 3 was any worse (or better) than 1 and 2. All fun movies. Not brain candy as such, no....but fun movies based on COMIC BOOKS. I did not expect Siddartha here, and I was not disappointed.
 

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I was actually looking forward to Spider-Man 4 because they said Carnage might be in it. Oh well...