SPOILER: High Profile X-men Character to Die in Upcoming Comic Arc

[aceman67]

I read Ultimate X-men, and all through out its convoluted, often confusing (more so then most) storylines, I've come to the conclusion regarding character deaths: Absolutely [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--mwmCRscCCc/T_j-DYLQkQI/AAAAAAAAJE4/yc0iqPtfTW4/s1600/Ultimatum+004.jpg] nothing [http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2010/01/ultimatum06-584.jpg] shocks [http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/FireEel/Ultimatum5019.jpg] me any more [http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1779280-x_menrequiem009_10.jpeg] (The previous links contain HEAVY spoilers for the Ultimatum series, you've been warned)

Honestly, if marvel ACTUALLY wanted to kill off someone, especially high-profile, they wouldn't blatantly advertise it, or allow it to leak.

This is a gimmick, nothing more.

Hell...

Spoiler

In Ultimatum, it took Magneto flaying the skin off Wolverine's skeleton then destroying the skeleton to finally kill him.

Nothing short of doing something like that would convince me that they won't bring back Marvel's mutant cash-cow.

 

[Khymerion]

He will be dead for as long as Superman was when they killed him.
Or Batman.
Or Captain America.
Or Phoenix/Jean Grey.

So... year. Year and a half tops before he is running around again.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Yeah, 6 months till they bring him back with magic, or say it was a clone, or L.M.D, or an alternate version from the Ultimate universe or something.

 

[aceman67]

alternate version from the Ultimate universe or something.

Wolverine is quite goners in Ultimate Comics Land.

 

[Callate]

"I hope that when people finish it, they'll feel like he died in a way that was true to him," says writer Charles Soule.

"...And when we bring him back from the dead, I hope we're all, like, 'ch-ching! ch-ching! Make it rain, baby, make it raiiin!"

 

[Happiness Assassin]

Alright, taking all bets guys. How long do we think this is actually gonna keep this time?

My money is going to be the same as Death of Superman (oddly familiar title). Wolverine will be killed, then "unkilled" by the end of the arc.

 

[vallorn]

Remember when they killed off Steve Rogers?
Remember when they killed off Peter Parker?
Remember when they killed off Jason Todd?
Remember when they killed off Brian Griffin?

We know this song well enough to sing along, now.

Ultimate Parker is still dead as far as I know. and Todd stayed dead for bloomin ages... the other two... yeah probably more like them.

He'll swagger into whever the current main Xmen HQ is, arm in arm with Jean and rattle off some needlessly complicated method of surviving.

Or he might be a Skrull... again...

 

[JayRPG]

I wish he would die for good.

I find him to be one of the most boring marvel characters going around.

It doesn't help that fox thinks Wolverine is the only character people like so they parade him as the main character in every X-men movie... they shouldn't even be called X-men (excluding First Class which is the only real X-men movie), Number 1 should be called Wolverine, X-men 2 needs to be retitled Wolverine 2 and the 3rd should be changed to "The last stand... of Wolverine".

Not even going to think about all those shitty Wolverine origins and spin-offs.

Why are they so obsessed with Wolverine? He has boring mutant abilities, his entire persona seems to be that of a boring asshole, he is just boring.

I also don't see any reason why Magneto couldn't have killed Wolverine 50x over by now. Can Wolverine really survive having his entire adamantium skeleton ripped from him and then having his head decapitated by his own claws while the rest of his body is being turned into mince meat by flying adamantium shrapnel?
That seems fairly easy for someone like Magneto to do.

Basically, I just want Wolverine to fuck off forever, though I know he won't.

 

[orangeapples]

Did anyone see the Robot Chicken DC Villains in Paradise special? Batman's eulogy for Green Arrow is all I can think about at the moment. Anyone out there have a clip for those who haven't seen it?

 

[Cartographer]

Shameless attempt by marvel to get their movie IP back "in house" by killing off the cash cow their competitors have been using to keep hold of the licence.
He'll stay dead until the movie rights are back in Disney's hands, only then will they bring him back.
(Unless the inevitable X23 revival proves angsty-female-teen wolverine is more popular once and for all)


That out of the way, boy does he need to die and stay dead. Wolverine has been a terribly written and characterised character since his inception. A PTSD suffering amnesiac short man with short-man-syndrome who's solution to every problem has always been violence, carrying a body count to rival most sci-fi galactic wars; final straw was the sheer hypocrisy he's been acting out for the last few years with his feud with Cyclops (really, the impressionable teen who grew up in your presence has taken on-board the lessons you taught and now you're angry that he's turned into a more effective you...).

 

[shirkbot]

Why are they so obsessed with Wolverine? He has boring mutant abilities, his entire persona seems to be that of a boring asshole, he is just boring.

Congratulations, you've summed up how I feel about virtually all superheroes/heroines because...

OT: Death cannot be a meaningful source of drama in a universe where your odds of permanent death are inversely proportional to your popularity. At this point I really just want all the other characters to shrug and say "That's nice Logan. See you at dinner then?" At least the villains can be interesting, and lose, and die, and be proactive, sometimes in that order.

 

[IceStar100]

He'll be killed by the common cold and Morgan Freeman will narrate his death. So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

I would buy that. I really would because of Morgan Freeman does it then it's for keep because Morgan Freeman is GOD. ALL FALL BEFORE THE GLORY OF MORGAN FREEMAN.

 

[Absimilliard]

Remember when they killed off Steve Rogers?
Remember when they killed off Peter Parker?
Remember when they killed off Jason Todd?
Remember when they killed off Brian Griffin?

We know this song well enough to sing along, now.

Let me add a bit to that, if you don't mind...
Remember when they killed off Jean Grey?
Remember when they killed off Peter Rasputin?
Remember when they killed off Jean Grey?
Remember when they killed off Kurt Wagner?
Remember when they killed off Jean Grey?
Remember when they killed off almost every villain there ever was?
Remember when they killed off Jean Grey?
Etc., etc., etc...

I am a Marvel fan, but deaths in Marvel comics have less impact than in a high-level D&D game.[footnote] Playing the Nerd Card? Moi?[/footnote]

 

[putowtin]

Alright, taking all bets guys. How long do we think this is actually gonna keep this time?

Three months tops, then they'll send someone back to before he loses his healing ability and the entire arc will be by-passed...

Either I just wrote it for them or it's the same story they've used over and over!

 

[CrazyBlaze]

I read Ultimate X-men, and all through out its convoluted, often confusing (more so then most) storylines, I've come to the conclusion regarding character deaths: Absolutely [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--mwmCRscCCc/T_j-DYLQkQI/AAAAAAAAJE4/yc0iqPtfTW4/s1600/Ultimatum+004.jpg] nothing [http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2010/01/ultimatum06-584.jpg] shocks [http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/FireEel/Ultimatum5019.jpg] me any more [http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1779280-x_menrequiem009_10.jpeg] (The previous links contain HEAVY spoilers for the Ultimatum series, you've been warned)

Honestly, if marvel ACTUALLY wanted to kill off someone, especially high-profile, they wouldn't blatantly advertise it, or allow it to leak.

This is a gimmick, nothing more.

Hell...

Spoiler

In Ultimatum, it took Magneto flaying the skin off Wolverine's skeleton then destroying the skeleton to finally kill him.

Nothing short of doing something like that would convince me that they won't bring back Marvel's mutant cash-cow.

Well he is currently bereft of his healing powers since his last series ended. Though he is currently wearing armour that can survive a nuclear blast apparently.


OT: I give it a year and half, two years before he comes back to life.

 

[therightpirate]

Shameless attempt by marvel to get their movie IP back "in house" by killing off the cash cow their competitors have been using to keep hold of the licence.
He'll stay dead until the movie rights are back in Disney's hands, only then will they bring him back.
(Unless the inevitable X23 revival proves angsty-female-teen wolverine is more popular once and for all)

Um maybe you don't understand movie rights. 20th Century Fox bought the rights to make both Fantastic Four and X-Men movies. They own those rights. However there is usually a clause in those contracts that allow the rights to go back to the original owner if the rights holder doesn't utilize them for a certain length of time. So 20th Century Fox has the right to make Wolverine/X-Men films in perpetuity as long as they make them regularly. This is the same reason why Sony is making Spider-Man movies - they own those rights and will in perpetuity as long as they keep making them, which is why they have also adopted a strategy of building off of the Spider-Man franchise with possible Venom or Sinister Six movies.

The likelihood of Disney getting those rights back from 20th Century Fox or Sony is very slim unless they are willing to buy them back and probably give them a piece of the pie moving forward.

So your whole argument that he'll stay dead until they get those rights is very unlikely. In fact by doing this series they are drawing attention to the Wolverine and X-Men brands - which might be a smart move for Marvel/Disney as the upcoming release of the X-Men film does mean more comic sales as well as the fact that they likely get a percentage point on those films too so they would most likely profit if the upcoming X-Men film does well.

As everyone is saying, Wolvie will stay dead for maybe 6 months to a year. It's common strategy to kill a major character off every few years and then bring them back or even retcon their origins a bit. At the end of the day if you blink for a year and pass on this series and aren't an avid current comic book reader you likely won't notice. There's no financial gain in killing off a major fictional character who is popular and bringing in money unless you are going to resurrect them. End of story.

EDIT: Is it really a spoiler that they're killing off Wolverine by the way? I mean it's in the title of the series. I don't think there's a need to spoiler tag it as people will need to buy a comic book titled "The Death of Wolverine" in order to actually see him die anyways.

 

[Quellist]

What an utter bullshit publicity stunt...The likelihood of this being permanent is on a par with Kim Jong Un winning the Nobel peace prize

 

[The_Darkness]

So, Marvel, this is totally gonna be a thing with you now, isn't it? Kill off a major character, see how the universe copes without them for a year or so, bring them back (slightly changed perhaps), then kill off another major character...

Then again, I'm not really complaining. Superior Spiderman was a fun read, and may have gotten me back into Spiderman comics. Doing something like this regularly is a decent way of shaking up the status quo without ever really abandoning it.

 

[Something Amyss]

Alright, taking all bets guys. How long do we think this is actually gonna keep this time?

Three months.

No, wait. They seem really serious this time.

Six months.

Remember when they killed off Steve Rogers?

Which Time?

Remember when they killed off Peter Parker?

Which Time?

Remember when they killed off Jason Todd?
Remember when they killed off Brian Griffin?

Which Ti....Sorry, reflex.

In fairness with the Brian one, TV has a larger history of killing off characters for realsies. Comics? There's been a saying in comics since before I was born: nobody stays dead except Bucky. And that saying's about a decade out of date now.

Hell...

Spoiler

In Ultimatum, it took Magneto flaying the skin off Wolverine's skeleton then destroying the skeleton to finally kill him.

Nothing short of doing something like that would convince me that they won't bring back Marvel's mutant cash-cow.

Even that wouldn't convince me of the permanent death of 616 Wolverine.

Shameless attempt by marvel to get their movie IP back "in house" by killing off the cash cow their competitors have been using to keep hold of the licence.

Can you explain how killing him off in the comics is going to impact the movies in any way? I could see it working the other way around, but comics are niche and X-Men movies are big money. Remember, they made changes to the X-Men comics to fit the movies, not vice vera.

Wolverine has been a terribly written and characterised character since his inception.

But it seems to be what people want from comics.