SPOILER: High Profile X-men Character to Die in Upcoming Comic Arc

crazygameguy4ever

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He be back.. Marvel kills and brings back characters more often then a loser guy in a anime gets his face shoved between a pair of girl's boobs..
 

joshuaayt

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I think comics can still do good character deaths- I really liked Ultimate Spider-Man's death, it was a cool arc. I especially liked how the Ultimates were involved, and how much of an ass Col. America was.

Actually, now that I remember, Wolverine is already dead in Ultimate, so I guess it's just that people are better at dying in good ol' Earth 1610.

Somehow doubt mainstream Wolverine is going anywhere- Marvel wouldn't be the same without his hairy mug plastered over comics he doesn't even show up in.
 

Chester Rabbit

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Spoilers, it doesn't matter, no death in any comic ever matters. Nothing in comics matter because sooner or later everything is chucked out the window and taken back to square one.
 

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Whatislove said:
I wish he would die for good.

I find him to be one of the most boring marvel characters going around.

It doesn't help that fox thinks Wolverine is the only character people like so they parade him as the main character in every X-men movie... they shouldn't even be called X-men (excluding First Class which is the only real X-men movie), Number 1 should be called Wolverine, X-men 2 needs to be retitled Wolverine 2 and the 3rd should be changed to "The last stand... of Wolverine".

Not even going to think about all those shitty Wolverine origins and spin-offs.

Why are they so obsessed with Wolverine? He has boring mutant abilities, his entire persona seems to be that of a boring asshole, he is just boring.

I also don't see any reason why Magneto couldn't have killed Wolverine 50x over by now. Can Wolverine really survive having his entire adamantium skeleton ripped from him and then having his head decapitated by his own claws while the rest of his body is being turned into mince meat by flying adamantium shrapnel?
That seems fairly easy for someone like Magneto to do.

Basically, I just want Wolverine to fuck off forever, though I know he won't.
What do you think of DC characters that could be considered as boring as Wolverine, like Batman - who strikes from the shadows as much as possible and beats people with his bare hands - or Superman - who is seemingly immortal, died once already, and usually beats superhumans/aliens with his bare hands?
 

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Zeras said:
Whatislove said:
I wish he would die for good.

I find him to be one of the most boring marvel characters going around.

It doesn't help that fox thinks Wolverine is the only character people like so they parade him as the main character in every X-men movie... they shouldn't even be called X-men (excluding First Class which is the only real X-men movie), Number 1 should be called Wolverine, X-men 2 needs to be retitled Wolverine 2 and the 3rd should be changed to "The last stand... of Wolverine".

Not even going to think about all those shitty Wolverine origins and spin-offs.

Why are they so obsessed with Wolverine? He has boring mutant abilities, his entire persona seems to be that of a boring asshole, he is just boring.

I also don't see any reason why Magneto couldn't have killed Wolverine 50x over by now. Can Wolverine really survive having his entire adamantium skeleton ripped from him and then having his head decapitated by his own claws while the rest of his body is being turned into mince meat by flying adamantium shrapnel?
That seems fairly easy for someone like Magneto to do.

Basically, I just want Wolverine to fuck off forever, though I know he won't.
What do you think of DC characters that could be considered as boring as Wolverine, like Batman - who strikes from the shadows as much as possible and beats people with his bare hands - or Superman - who is seemingly immortal, died once already, and usually beats superhumans/aliens with his bare hands?
I also hate both of them, Batman more than superman but I do find Batman boring as hell and this whole "Oh, he can beat anyone given enough preparation time" ... well yeah, if you gave me a few weeks I could probably track down some kryptonite as well. Batman is somewhat intelligent and super rich... how boring.

Superman could have been interesting but he isn't, he is just boring because of his good guy shtick, he is too good.

This is why I find Anti-Heroes to be the only Heroes I can get behind (if they are written well), I mean, out of the scope of super heroes and into Dragonball Z, look at Vegeta... now he is an interesting hero. He allows himself to be taken over by an evil entity in order to gain power because he feels living a good life has made him soft. He wants the power so he can beat Goku who has surpassed him at every level but later realises that his family is everything and sacrifices his own life to destroy Majin Buu.

That tiny story line from 1 of Dragonball Z's seasons is a more interesting character arch than anything Wolverine, Superman and especially Batman have ever done.

Why does a hero always have to be so against killing? it sickens me.
 

caballitomalo

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I say he'll be dead for like 3 or 4 panels... tops!

It's too late to kill Logan now, hes already front and center and already drawn into like 95% of every marvel book thats being made right now. Avengers? hes there, X men? hes there. Spider man? hes on it. And thats counting spinoffs and solo books. So if you kill him for longer than a few panels... they would have to throw away every book being drawn today.

Whats the point of killing Logan though... he already went to hell and just walked right back. And I mean literally want to actual hell itself, chatted with hes father, fought sabe tooth there, took over control of hell itself (cause hes wolverine so he can do that no problem) and just walked right back out. Jaso Aron wrote that stuff.

So death of wolverine... pff.
 

Diddy_Mao

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"...the idea to kill off one of the most iconic characters in comic books emerged out of Marvel's semi-annual creative retreat, when Marvel writers and editors come together to discuss major projects."


read as: Semi-Annual staff meeting to determine which character we're going to "kill" this year.
 

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Mangod said:
Absimilliard said:
I am a Marvel fan, but deaths in Marvel comics have less impact than in a high-level D&D game.[footnote] Playing the Nerd Card? Moi?[/footnote]
Dude, when my friends level 16 fighter kicked the bucket we held a f***ing wake for him. When a Marvel/DC character dies, you just pull out a stopwatch and start counting.

I've mostly given up on comics, because A) nothing ever changes; status quo is God in these matters, so of course the "death of Wolverine" won't matter in any way, and B) CrossGen was the last time that someone released a comic I had any interest in, but since the company went belly up... *shrugs*
I was referring to how you can raise people from the dead in the game. The permanent loss of a character is of course a huge deal. But Marvel characters don't even suffer anything near the level loss you get from most such spells. There's often quite a bit of angst, though.
 

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Absimilliard said:
I was referring to how you can raise people from the dead in the game. The permanent loss of a character is of course a huge deal. But Marvel characters don't even suffer anything near the level loss you get from most such spells. There's often quite a bit of angst, though.
Ah, I misunderstood what you meant. Yes, by that interpretation, Comic Deaths matter less than the death of a D&D character.

You know, the more I think about it, the more sad I become about the state of comic books, and how their story telling is seemingly sinking to below the level of a campfire story. I mean, when the latest Crisis Crossover is less epic than Noah "The Spoony One" Antwiler's Thieves World campaign;


That's Hemingway levels of depressing.
 

Lightknight

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Oh no, another blatant non-lasting death of one of the most iconic characters in comic history. Did someone happen to noticed crossed fingers behind the speaker's back when announcing they they were really killing him this time?

As for Wolverine always being the victor, that's true of all comic heroes ever. Reed Richards once postulated that they live in a universe whose unique principle is that good triumphs over evil.

Also, when Wolverine isn't the star of the comic he occasionally is certainly a loser. Magneto anyone?
 

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Kumagawa Misogi said:
So how does this methodology make no sense?
If you're making up steps or substituting them, then it's not sensible.

By that logic, I can argue I make more than Bill Gates. All I need to do is add extra steps as is convenient.