Spoilers That Can/Can't Be Spoiled (given the circumstances)

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It's a pretty basic "question", despite (spoilers) it not actually a question yet... There are spoilers that you can say and everyone is fine with, even if there's that one person who's never seen where the spoiler came from in the first place... and then there are spoilers that should never be spoken of in general, even if that one person just doesn't care for spoilers to begin with...

For example, most of the deaths in those classic Disney films can be spoiled without any remorse, since either we believe that everyone knows about them beforehand or we've reached the point that they're not considered "spoilers" anymore, given the circumstances... However, anything involving certain scenes in Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones or (in terms of Disney) most recent Pixar films or the (upcoming) movie Frozen should not be spoiled unless those hearing it have some idea what they're getting themselves into... or, "sometimes", already knowing the spoiler beforehand...[footnote]Yeah...I can't think of "good" examples, since I never really cared for spoilers in the first place...[/footnote]

I know I'm kinda having a hard time explaining the whole purpose of this thread, but to put it simply... What kind of spoilers can be spoiled without using a "spoiler tag" regardless of the situation and which spoilers just need that "spoiler tag", since they're being spoken in a situation that would deem it "unjustifiable" or a rude thing to do in general?

(And, yes... I'm well aware of the "upcoming" spoilers to come before finishing this particular statement in "spoiler-free" parentheses...)
 

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According to GameFAQs, absolutely none. I once got modded for jokingly posting about Lord of the Rings "The ring gets destroyed in the end" in a discussion about what was okay to talk about from OBLIVION on the SKYRIM board. I disputed and all I got back was "spoilers are spoilers." God I hate those guys.

Personally, I always ask ahead of time if it's okay to spoil things. A lot of people don't care, though some REALLY do. In one moment of carelessness I blurted out in a conversation about Halo 4

"Can you believe that Cortana dies?!"


Someone sitting nearby overheard and was SOOOOOO pissed at me because this was only a short time after the release of Halo 4 and he was planning on playing it soon. I felt pretty terrible about the whole thing.

Anyway, as with many things, it's a case-by-case basis. Better safe than sorry, but don't be too upset if people are being unreasonable about it.
 

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It depends on the time or the situation. Spoiling a recent and relevant movie is never cool, even if the source material is relatively old (Hobbit readers, beware...).

I often ask before spoiling something relatively recent, but I don't really care about spoiling stuff that is older than me, specially when asked.
 

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Kolby Jack said:
According to GameFAQs, absolutely none. I once got modded for jokingly posting about Lord of the Rings "The ring gets destroyed in the end" in a discussion about what was okay to talk about from OBLIVION on the SKYRIM board. I disputed and all I got back was "spoilers are spoilers." God I hate those guys.

Personally, I always ask ahead of time if it's okay to spoil things. A lot of people don't care, though some REALLY do. In one moment of carelessness I blurted out in a conversation about Halo 4

"Can you believe that Cortana dies?!"


Someone sitting nearby overheard and was SOOOOOO pissed at me because this was only a short time after the release of Halo 4 and he was planning on playing it soon. I felt pretty terrible about the whole thing.

Anyway, as with many things, it's a case-by-case basis. Better safe than sorry, but don't be too upset if people are being unreasonable about it.
its kinda funny seeing as your spoiler isn't what happens, at least that's the feeling im getting from the previews of halo 5.
OT: rule of thumb for games give it 3 years min before talking about the ending with anyone who hasn't beaten said game, movies just have to wait till its be on DvD for about 3 months, and finally books unless the book is 50 plus years old you DO NOT SPOIL THE DAM ENDING! seriously you don't spoil the ending to books cause those dam things tend to take a hell of a lot longer to finish then any of the other two.
 

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Personally there's only one situation where I actually care about spoilers: If I'm already hyped about something, I want to experience it after being exposed to as little information about it as I can possibly manage. Mostly because going in fresh can simply give a much different impression than going in after having ardently followed the thing for half a year before it released.

Otherwise, I treat spoilers like any other kind of marketing hype, really. Some of the spoilers are the reason I picked up the Song of Ice & Fire books. But I try to maintain respect for other people and avoid accidentally revealing spoilers myself whenever I can, no matter what the subject is. If there's anything the past few years on gaming websites has taught me, it's that people other than me seem to get really intense about canon within a fictional universe and how they experience said canon, to the point that they'll be enraged if everything doesn't go according to the plan they formulated in their head.
 

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I once had someone get pissed at me for revealing that Darth Vader is Luke's father. I think my brain went into a full blue screen of death at that moment.
 

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i enjoy spoilers i like knowing whats next it makes me have a goal to look forward to if im playing a game and for movies i just like to know the end and watch the movie to know the journey
 

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Above folks are right in pointing out it depends on the time, situation and subject matter; although of course considering others first before blurting something out is always a good idea.

The worst person for spoiling things for me, tends to be me. I can often find it really difficult to stop myself indulging curiosity and looking things up, thus spoiling the surprise. If I see/hear folks talking about a movie for example and discussing the "big twist" that happens in it, I'm very likely to just outright ask them what the twist is, or make a mental note to look it up and find out what they're talking about. I don't like people spoiling things for me, but that doesn't stop me spoiling them for myself. Eh.
 

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Objectable said:
Titanic was the sled.
Rosebud is Harry Potter's dad.
Kyubey is a dick.
OMG DID YOU JUST SPOIL MADOKA MAGICA?! I WAS WATCHING THAT!

OT: I go into a fiery rage whenever people post unmarked Persona 4 spoilers, even small ones. The whole game is building this mystery story over 50 hours and this guy has just ruined it. I even get annoyed in the SMT group chat when someone does it. I get why but you're spoiling the best one, stop it there are loads of SMT games and not everyone has played Persona 4 specifically even if this if an SMT group.

However the English language in general spoils Naoto's plot twist thing since we don't have a neutral word for he/she
 

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Kolby Jack said:
I once got modded for jokingly posting about Lord of the Rings "The ring gets destroyed in the end"
Heh. That's like getting flack for telling people that the Titanic sank.

Incidentally, that actually did happen to someone I knew. It happened in a high school cafeteria, shortly after the film came out. This guy was complaining that he didn't understand why people were so interested in this film.

"What's the big deal!?" he asked. "It's a movie about a boat... THAT SINKS!!!"
A nearby girl flipped out, because she hadn't seen the movie and accused him of spoiling it for her.

So with this life lesson behind me, I can pretty much tell you all that there's no such thing as a safe spoiler. You'll always end up upsetting someone, especially if there are idiots abound.
 

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No, I don't like to be spoiled. Even if the story is old, it's a downer when someone ruins a new experience for you. A story, much like a video game, is meant to create an experience. By telling a spoiler, you diminish that experience. If the experience is diminished to the point where there's no interest, what's the point of starting it?
 

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My rule is "Wait two years for any spoilers, unless it is history." It isn't a spoiler to point out that the Titanic sinks. Or that Germany loses WW2. If you don't know these things, there's no helping you. It might be considered a spoiler to point out that Pompey dies in Egypt during the civil war that followed the collapse of the First Triumvirate. That's not the sort of thing that most people should know off the top of their heads. But I firmly stand by the belief that you can't spoil history.
 

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Batman is Bruce Wayne.
In superhero movies, the good guys always win at the expense of something great
Marvel heroes will NEVER get the girl.

A few things that can be considered spoilers, but we all know they're coming anyway.
 

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I was talking to someone in my science class... debating Final Fantasy games (this was high school, 8 had just come out), and I suddenly said, "I still don't get why they killed Aeris," or something to that effect, and the classmate on my other side went, "HEY! Spoilers!" and I just had to turn and look at him. "If you didn't already know that happened, in a game that's been out a year... I can't help you."
 

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Someone once spoiled Atlas Shrugged, regarding a character's fate. And he tried to defend it based on "if you haven't read it fuck you". Come on, just because something is old doesn't mean you can spoil it. It must be relatively well known. Atlas Shrugged, pop as it may be through BioShock, is a pretty obscure read and not a lot of people have read it.
 

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I think it's reasonable to 'spoil' something that is relatively obvious was going to happen. 'The ring is destroyed', 'The villain dies' etc. For things that are meant to be a surprise I think it's best avoided, although there comes a point where the surprise is so well-known that someone would have to have kept their head in a box to avoid it. 'I am your father'; 'He was dead all along', 'OMG he's really Keyser Soze' etc.

Personally I tend not to be that bothered about spoilers in general. Obviously it's nice to be surprised, but *how* something happens is usually more interesting than *that* it happens. For those who really hate spoilers, I wonder - are you unable to enjoy a movie/book a second time?
 

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The sixth sense. I saw the famous spoiler spoiled in at least two different things before I got to watch the movie itself, thankfully I watched something else with an almost identical spoiler and I didn't see it coming so that made up for it. I don't care how old a spoiler is it's still a spoiler.