Stan Lee Developing Gay Superhero Series For Showtime

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Stan Lee Developing Gay Superhero Series For Showtime


Comics legend Stan Lee is developing a new drama for Showtime [http://www.sho.com/] about the life and times of a gay teenage superhero.

The hour long show will be based on the 2007 novel Perry Moore [http://perrymoorestories.com/content/hero.asp?id=superheroes], who is also writing the pilot for the series. The novel tells the story of Thom Creed, a high school student just awakening to both his superpowers and his sexual identity. Afraid of the reaction of his homophobic home town, Creed struggles to keep both aspects of his life a secret.

Northstar [http://www.justpressplay.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4285&Itemid=144], who was snuffed in 2005 at the hands of a rampaging Wolverine. Northstar had originally revealed his sexual orientation in 1992 while still a member of the Canadian super-team Alpha Flight.

Lee, meanwhile, established a reputation as a supporter of equal rights through his early work in comics, particularly through the use of the famed X-Men series, which he used as proxies for stories about racism and other forms of prejudice. He went on to achieve great fame as the driving force behind Marvel Comics [http://marvel.com/], responsible for the creation of noteworthy heroes like Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil, the Incredible Hulk and many others.

No word yet on when Hero will debut, or who we might see filling the titular role. In the meantime, don't feel too bad for Northstar; like all good superheroes, he was quickly resurrected and thrown back into the fray.


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I think being able to fly at light speed might be slightly more worrying than just fancying blokes though.

And didn't Northstar also have a twin sister who was mutant bi-polar?

"Dad, I have to tell you. I'm gay."
"That's alright son of mine, as long as you're not going to start throwing cars about."
"Well...about that..."
 

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Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
 

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Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
It would be silly of you to hope that. If this guy doesn't have a costume covered in rhinestones and a rainbow cape I'm canceling Showtime.

Seriously though, I suppose it's a neat idea... it seems like more of a "stunt" to me, but if the show is any good I'll give it a watch. Stan Lee's the man.
 

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HSIAMetalKing said:
Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
It would be silly of you to hope that. If this guy doesn't have a costume covered in rhinestones and a rainbow cape I'm canceling Showtime.
Not funny.
 

Andy Chalk

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Stan Lee working on a gay superhero project, and it isn't Aquaman?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
And didn't Northstar also have a twin sister who was mutant bi-polar?
Yeah, that was Aurora. She suffered from some kind of multiple personality disorder. I never paid much attention to Alpha Flight - and neither did anyone else, which is the main reason Marvel decided to bring Northstar out in it.
 

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Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
: D

Yeah, the costumes of all straight super heroes are extremely gay, skin-tight affairs, so maybe the gay hero will have the most badass costume ever created. : )
 

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Aries_Split said:
HSIAMetalKing said:
Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
It would be silly of you to hope that. If this guy doesn't have a costume covered in rhinestones and a rainbow cape I'm canceling Showtime.
Not funny.
Wasn't trying to be hurtful-- just a jab at "straight" superheroes who wear flamboyant costumes.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Stan Lee working on a gay superhero project, and it isn't Aquaman?
Brilliant.

How are there no Batman and Robin jokes yet? First gay superhero movie... right...
 

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HSIAMetalKing said:
Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
It would be silly of you to hope that. If this guy doesn't have a costume covered in rhinestones and a rainbow cape I'm canceling Showtime.

Seriously though, I suppose it's a neat idea... it seems like more of a "stunt" to me, but if the show is any good I'll give it a watch. Stan Lee's the man.
Well there are several gay heroes, none of which to my knowledge are wearing anything like that. I could name them, but i don't feel like it.

I think this series will be something akin to Smallville in the style of the hero. In Smallville Clark has yet to wear the signature costume, however he has been using all the powers.

And yeah I can see this being a stunt. However I do think this stunt can be good for gay people.
 

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I mentioned to someone when this report first came to light that I really miss the days when superheroes spent their time solving crimes and kicking the shit out of bad guys, rather than getting all angsty about their sexuality.
 

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TheBadass said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Stan Lee working on a gay superhero project, and it isn't Aquaman?
Brilliant.

How are there no Batman and Robin jokes yet? First gay superhero movie... right...
Duuuuh! Batman's straight, and Robin hasn't come out of the closet yet. Though no rush Robin, the new series of movies are going on just fine without "Holy dildoes in a cornhole Batman" being said every time something happens.
 

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This got me thinking about superheroes we're still missing.

I mean, we've got superheroes in wheelchairs, a gay superhero, one with multiple personality disorder, plenty of superheroes with hair problems, weight problems, impaired vision, etc.

Where's the Mormon superhero? Or the superhero suffering from radioactive poisoning?
 

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zoozilla said:
Or the superhero suffering from radioactive poisoning?
well some FPS heroes have stepped into somes pits with radioactive waste, but they seem to dont affect them.
 

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I mentioned to someone when this report first came to light that I really miss the days when superheroes spent their time solving crimes and kicking the shit out of bad guys, rather than getting all angsty about their sexuality.
I think it's Alan Moore's fault, though I wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

Also, forgive me if I am being presumptuous and any of our homosexual Escapists can stop me, but I think the Homosexual community would rather it be a Superhero who -HAPPENS- to be Homosexual, not a Homosexual Superhero.

Whats the difference? The first implies that homosexuality is so normal and natural it doesn't require special mention or specific attention- it's just another part of the character, like Peter Parker being a smartass.

The second implies OMG GAY SUPERHERO!
 

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Must...refrain....from quoting Jeff Dunham jokes.

oh, what the hell.

"Look, it's Gay Man! Don't turn your back on him."
"oh, and when he flies his butt whistles."

but honestly, I think it sounds alright. I think the problem is that it has to be on showtime. Why does a series about a gay superhero have to be on showtime? Is the fact that it includes sexuality/homosexuality means that it has to be restricted from basic cable.
 
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Oh dear God, I live in the southern U.S., I can just imagine the religous nut bags here will have their panties in a twist about this real soon, it doesn't take much to set them off.
 

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zoozilla said:
This got me thinking about superheroes we're still missing.

I mean, we've got superheroes in wheelchairs, a gay superhero, one with multiple personality disorder, plenty of superheroes with hair problems, weight problems, impaired vision, etc.

Where's the Mormon superhero? Or the superhero suffering from radioactive poisoning?
Why not kill several birs with one stone? We can make a wheelchair-using, multiple personality-suffering, overweight, impaired vision Mormon, radioactive black lesbian who's lefthanded!

We could call her, All Bases Covered Girl!
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Stan Lee working on a gay superhero project, and it isn't Aquaman?
Aquamans not a superhero =]

This might get some panties bunched but I'd prefer to see a lesbian superhero.
 

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ward. said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Stan Lee working on a gay superhero project, and it isn't Aquaman?
Aquamans not a superhero =]

This might get some panties bunched but I'd prefer to see a lesbian superhero.
Well, there is Batgirl, who, ironically, was originally included in the Batman comics to ward off the whole "Batman is gay" vibe. Try not to think about how Batgirl is a hot blonde, and more that they really are trynig to be politically correct, honest...

And like other people, yes, I did think of The Ambiguously Gay Duo.
 

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Hawgh said:
Would it be prejudiced of me to hope that this might finally be a superhero who doesn't look ridiculous?
I believe the word you're looking for is fabulous.
 

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Homo Man, Homo Man,
does whatever a homo can.
Wears bright pink, every day,
some might think, that he's gay
Look out! Here comes the Homo Man.

He's not strong, he's not tough,
that's because, he's a puff.
How do we know, that he's gay?
Saw him doin', the YMCA.
Look Out! There goes the Homo Man.

In the dead of the night, at the sceen of a crime,
you will see Homo Man, leading a congo line...

Homo Man, Homo Man
does whatever a homo can.
Criminals, stay indoors,
or your rear end, will be sore.
LOOK OUT!
Here comes the Homo Man.


Hope I didn't offend anyone too much, but the idea got stuck in my head and I couldn't stop laughing till I posted it...
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Homo Man, Homo Man,
does whatever a homo can.
Wears bright pink, every day,
some might think, that he's gay
Look out! Here comes the Homo Man.

He's not strong, he's not tough,
that's because, he's a puff.
How do we know, that he's gay?
Saw him doin', the YMCA.
Look Out! There goes the Homo Man.

In the dead of the night, at the sceen of a crime,
you will see Homo Man, leading a congo line...

Homo Man, Homo Man
does whatever a homo can.
Criminals, stay indoors,
or your rear end, will be sore.
LOOK OUT!
Here comes the Homo Man.


Hope I didn't offend anyone too much, but the idea got stuck in my head and I couldn't stop laughing till I posted it...
Thats made my day. Thanks
 

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Elurindel said:
ward. said:
This might get some panties bunched but I'd prefer to see a lesbian superhero.
Well, there is Batgirl, who, ironically, was originally included in the Batman comics to ward off the whole "Batman is gay" vibe. Try not to think about how Batgirl is a hot blonde, and more that they really are trynig to be politically correct, honest...
You might be confusing Batwoman with Batgirl. Batgirl isn't a lesbian, no matter how often she hugs her female Birds of Prey teammates. Hey, wait a minute...
 
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Malygris said:
I mentioned to someone when this report first came to light that I really miss the days when superheroes spent their time solving crimes and kicking the shit out of bad guys, rather than getting all angsty about their sexuality.
Blame Frank Miller. That's when the Golden Age was permanently tarnished.
 

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Malygris said:
TsunamiWombat said:
Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.
Who, and what, are you talking about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

The Midnighter. Lesser known character. He's sort of what would happen if Captain America and The Punisher had a gay love baby.

Midnighter is a fictional comic book superhero, best known as a member of the rogue superhero team The Authority. Created by writer Warren Ellis and artist Bryan Hitch, he first appeared in Stormwatch (vol. 2) #4, before going on to appear in various Authority books and series and his own eponymous ongoing series. Some see the character as a parallel or reinterpretation of the DC Comics superhero the Batman. He and his partner, Apollo, have also been interpreted as a parallel of the Batman/Superman "World's Finest" partnership.[1] Unlike Batman, Midnighter has superhuman abilities, and regularly kills his opponents. In an interview for Comic Values Annual (1999), edited by Alex G. Malloy, Warren Ellis described Midnighter as the Shadow by way of John Woo. Midnighter is rarely seen without his costume and mask.[2]

Midnighter is gay, and is married to fellow Authority member Apollo.[1] The two of them have adopted Jenny Quantum as a daughter
Okay, maybe calling him 'COOLER' is a stretch, it's some crazy 3rd party superhero. Still.
 

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Lusperus said:
wonder what kind of costume the character is goin to wear.
Leather of course... I'd insert the obligatory picture of "Hard Gay", but I don't have one and can't be bothered to google one up.
 

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Eminate said:
Isn't it time for all the fags to shut the hell up and get on with life? Hey,if the most important thing you want to define yourself by is your sexuality then have at er, you poor sensitive abberations. Personally I would rather be known as something bigger like the guy who saved 16 kids from a burning orphanarium, or the man who cured AIDS, HA!

Well, maybe I'll just be happy as a man with decent morals and a good work ethic and not force everyone to recognize me by where I like to stuff my sausage.
This, coming from a guy who's avatar is a human head shoved up the same human's arse... Something in there is lol-worthy.
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Malygris said:
TsunamiWombat said:
Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.
Who, and what, are you talking about?
The Midnighter. Lesser known character. He's sort of what would happen if Captain America and The Punisher had a gay love baby.
The question was more about where this NOT THE FIRST business came from.

It's not important.
 

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http://video.yahoo.com/watch/148996

That's what came to mind for me.
 

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needausername said:
... Christ, I'm behind on the news, I though Stan Lee was dead...

[sup] Don't Hate Me [/sup]
Why would I hate you? Its pretty much what I've been hoping to hear for years now.
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Malygris said:
TsunamiWombat said:
Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.
Who, and what, are you talking about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

The Midnighter. Lesser known character. He's sort of what would happen if Captain America and The Punisher had a gay love baby.

Midnighter is a fictional comic book superhero, best known as a member of the rogue superhero team The Authority. Created by writer Warren Ellis and artist Bryan Hitch, he first appeared in Stormwatch (vol. 2) #4, before going on to appear in various Authority books and series and his own eponymous ongoing series. Some see the character as a parallel or reinterpretation of the DC Comics superhero the Batman. He and his partner, Apollo, have also been interpreted as a parallel of the Batman/Superman "World's Finest" partnership.[1] Unlike Batman, Midnighter has superhuman abilities, and regularly kills his opponents. In an interview for Comic Values Annual (1999), edited by Alex G. Malloy, Warren Ellis described Midnighter as the Shadow by way of John Woo. Midnighter is rarely seen without his costume and mask.[2]

Midnighter is gay, and is married to fellow Authority member Apollo.[1] The two of them have adopted Jenny Quantum as a daughter
Okay, maybe calling him 'COOLER' is a stretch, it's some crazy 3rd party superhero. Still.
If by '3rd Party' you mean far better than the tedious overblown mainstream Hulk/Flash/Superman stuff, then yeah.

Something I really liked about Midnighter and Apollo is they deal with love and their sexuality, but not shoehorn it into the script just to have a gay couple in the story, it just happens when it would happen between a straight couple, and doesn't feel either exaggerated or hidden.

Also, there's no stereotypically 'gay' stuff going on, no pink lycra outfits, just huge amounts of extreme violence, I see no reason why a gay superhero can't beat the bad guys to death just as well as a straight one.
 

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Sounds like an interesting idea.
Might be worth a look... you can't argue with Stan Lee.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Well, there's a few more than just Midnighter [http://www.gayleague.com/gay/characters/]
Thanks for that link. Hopefully I'll be able to check this out. Kinda plays into the "gay characters in gaming" thread awhile back.
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

Also, forgive me if I am being presumptuous and any of our homosexual Escapists can stop me, but I think the Homosexual community would rather it be a Superhero who -HAPPENS- to be Homosexual, not a Homosexual Superhero.

Whats the difference? The first implies that homosexuality is so normal and natural it doesn't require special mention or specific attention- it's just another part of the character, like Peter Parker being a smartass.

The second implies OMG GAY SUPERHERO!
Except for that first bit which I know nothing about, I want to second this. Having a superhero who happens to be gay is good. But making it LIKE A HUGE BIG THING is not productive to the Super-Secret-Gay-Regime, which is acceptance and also world domination.
 

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zoozilla said:
This got me thinking about superheroes we're still missing.

I mean, we've got superheroes in wheelchairs, a gay superhero, one with multiple personality disorder, plenty of superheroes with hair problems, weight problems, impaired vision, etc.

Where's the Mormon superhero? Or the superhero suffering from radioactive poisoning?
There are plenty of religious Superheroes, and not just the obvious ones that people know, and radioactive poisoning....uh...you REALLY cant find any?
 

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blackcherry said:
needausername said:
... Christ, I'm behind on the news, I though Stan Lee was dead...

[sup] Don't Hate Me [/sup]
Why would I hate you? Its pretty much what I've been hoping to hear for years now.
Any hate that the other guy MIGHT have gotten, automatically all goes to you, plus alot more. You're allowed to want it, cause I would be a hypocrite to say there are no popular people I want dead, but I dont go to places fans are or may be and say such things.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
TsunamiWombat said:
Not the first gay superhero. The Midnighter is far older and much cooler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

Also, forgive me if I am being presumptuous and any of our homosexual Escapists can stop me, but I think the Homosexual community would rather it be a Superhero who -HAPPENS- to be Homosexual, not a Homosexual Superhero.

Whats the difference? The first implies that homosexuality is so normal and natural it doesn't require special mention or specific attention- it's just another part of the character, like Peter Parker being a smartass.

The second implies OMG GAY SUPERHERO!
Except for that first bit which I know nothing about, I want to second this. Having a superhero who happens to be gay is good. But making it LIKE A HUGE BIG THING is not productive to the Super-Secret-Gay-Regime, which is acceptance and also world domination.
Well, cant know till it comes out, but I think its more about the double whammy of having to deal with BOTH things. Like, having to deal with the pressure of being gay, and on top of that, dealing with having these powers.
 

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All I keep thinking is that as long as Stan Lee is behind it then it can't go too far wrong... can it guys?
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Homo Man, Homo Man,
does whatever a homo can.
Wears bright pink, every day,
some might think, that he's gay
Look out! Here comes the Homo Man.

He's not strong, he's not tough,
that's because, he's a puff.
How do we know, that he's gay?
Saw him doin', the YMCA.
Look Out! There goes the Homo Man.

In the dead of the night, at the sceen of a crime,
you will see Homo Man, leading a congo line...

Homo Man, Homo Man
does whatever a homo can.
Criminals, stay indoors,
or your rear end, will be sore.
LOOK OUT!
Here comes the Homo Man.


Hope I didn't offend anyone too much, but the idea got stuck in my head and I couldn't stop laughing till I posted it...
I think I just peed my pants. Did you just come up with this at the top of head?
 

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zoozilla said:
This got me thinking about superheroes we're still missing.

I mean, we've got superheroes in wheelchairs, a gay superhero, one with multiple personality disorder, plenty of superheroes with hair problems, weight problems, impaired vision, etc.

Where's the Mormon superhero? Or the superhero suffering from radioactive poisoning?
Spiderman covers that, right? Fantastic Four? It's just....awesome radioactive poisoning!
 

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Well, it's an interesting idea, but personally speaking, no me gusta. I'm afraid it may turn out like Heroes and the whole sexuality bit might just be a gimmick for gimmick's sake.

But hey, it might be better than Heroes- what isn't- so I'll give it a chance.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Homo Man, Homo Man,
does whatever a homo can.
Wears bright pink, every day,
some might think, that he's gay
Look out! Here comes the Homo Man.

He's not strong, he's not tough,
that's because, he's a puff.
How do we know, that he's gay?
Saw him doin', the YMCA.
Look Out! There goes the Homo Man.

In the dead of the night, at the sceen of a crime,
you will see Homo Man, leading a congo line...

Homo Man, Homo Man
does whatever a homo can.
Criminals, stay indoors,
or your rear end, will be sore.
LOOK OUT!
Here comes the Homo Man.


Hope I didn't offend anyone too much, but the idea got stuck in my head and I couldn't stop laughing till I posted it...
You sir, just won teh internetz for a day! Have a cookie shaped like Mario!
 

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Speaking for myself, I think comics should try and stay away from real world politics. Even if I wasn't fairly anti-gay I would feel that way. Note my constant commentaries on Civil War (which would have been a better event if they simply kept it entrenched in the comic reality than trying to make stupid statements about a world which has nothing to do with the one in the comics).

As far as him dressing in rhinestones, and a rainbow cape, I very much doubt that would be an issue. I mean right now a lot of people make constant jokes about how flamboyantly gay a lot of perfectly straight superheroes look to begin with. You could put him in a pretty standard (for today) black leatheresque or tights/form fitting armor costume and there would be no differance between him and anyone else in live action super hero renditions to be honest.

To be frank I will find it ironic if they decide that a gay super-hero needs a very untraditional costume type to "avoid a stereotype". :p

Truthfully though, they need to give this project a bullet in the head. When the central premise revolves around politics I think it's a problem.