To be honest, I can't say. I can guess, but I couldn't say with certainty in the same way as the prequels.Silentpony said:We all know of the new trilogy is going to end.
To be honest, I can't say. I can guess, but I couldn't say with certainty in the same way as the prequels.Silentpony said:We all know of the new trilogy is going to end.
I think its a fair bet Kylo Ren is going to die, the Empire will fall, Rey will go one to teach new Jedi, and the ghost of Luke will look on and nod happily.Hawki said:To be honest, I can't say. I can guess, but I couldn't say with certainty in the same way as the prequels.Silentpony said:We all know of the new trilogy is going to end.
I've heard enough about some of the plot points to be discouraged. Luke was a terrific character. To fulfill a plot, they've had him act waaaay out of character. I'm disappointed.Squilookle said:Get this into your head:
No movie, series, franchise, or IP property has EVER needed a reboot. Especially not Star Wars- perhaps the most iconic and timeless of the lot.
I thought TLJ was fantastic- the Best SW film since before the Prequels. And I went into it completely unspoiled by trailers or bullshit youtube opinions. Honestly why anyone would seek that garbage out before watching it themselves is beyond me.
I think these are excellent points also.Dazzle Novak said:All of this is an exercise in figuratively subsisting on candy and insisting "Jolly Ranchers totally have, like, vitamins and stuff!"
Is it possible that a quirky pastiche of Flash Gordon and samurai flicks wasn't a solid enough nucleus for the mythological importance that's been placed around it and the original's world-building flourishes weren't proof of any actual, systematic lore that could sustain attempts to pump out stories for perpetuity with any sort of meaningful variety or artistic integrity?
"Leave it alone and move on" is an option, but how else can people get that nostalgia-high while Disney clears a billion a year off one franchise?
My vision of Star Wars will not have Porgs, Ewoks, and Jar Jar Binks in it at least.Smithnikov said:And I don't care what pieces of shit like you want from the series either. It evens out.Samtemdo8 said:I don't care about the old fans.
I was at a party recently, debating about The Empire Strikes back: a 35 year old movie. Love or hate it, the movie was that impacting that we are still talking about it decades later.Samtemdo8 said:So now I have this love/hate relationship with Star Wars
I'm gonna echo this. Everyone I've talked to personally, that is, not over anonymous forums, who've seen The Last Jedi liked it. Didn't think it was flawless, but they liked it well enough.Sniper Team 4 said:All this has taught me that Star Wars fans on the internet suck. Everyone I've talked to loved the movie, or at least enjoyed it that they left with a smile on their face. I have yet to find a single person in real life that downright hated the movie.
Sure is!Wintermute said:Fuck reboots. So many reboots already. Make a Star Wars horror movie. I'd watch that. My knowledge of Star Wars is limited to "I watched the movies once or twice", but I'm sure in all that expanded universe shit there's some horror story in there, right?
Hell, it's an ENTIRE GALAXY! They already made a full out war movie (Rogue One), and there should be plenty of room in a galaxy to make films of any genre. The trick is, what differentiates it from a standard sci-fi horror film? What makes it Star Wars?Wintermute said:Fuck reboots. So many reboots already. Make a Star Wars horror movie. I'd watch that. My knowledge of Star Wars is limited to "I watched the movies once or twice", but I'm sure in all that expanded universe shit there's some horror story in there, right?
What makes Star Wars at its best for me is not the Jedi and the Sith, but the Starship Battles:COMaestro said:Hell, it's an ENTIRE GALAXY! They already made a full out war movie (Rogue One), and there should be plenty of room in a galaxy to make films of any genre. The trick is, what differentiates it from a standard sci-fi horror film? What makes it Star Wars?Wintermute said:Fuck reboots. So many reboots already. Make a Star Wars horror movie. I'd watch that. My knowledge of Star Wars is limited to "I watched the movies once or twice", but I'm sure in all that expanded universe shit there's some horror story in there, right?
For that matter, what makes Star Wars Star Wars? Sam obviously has his own thoughts on that which he's expressed here, but I'm curious to hear other people's opinions on it.
Ravenbom said:Reboot is dumb. Why shit on people's childhoods, especially when there's a great, big Galaxy beyond the Skywalker clan?
Not only that, the Jedi existed for thousands of generations, there could easily be a KOTOR style story where it's effectively a reboot.
I agree, the inconsistency of the aspects of the force need to be codified and reigned in a bit. It can't be a Deus Ex Machina and do whatever the plot needs it to do.
But, as OP said, the EU/Legends didn't really define a lot of the force powers and the universe, maybe at first with the Heir to the Empire and Coran Horn/X-Wing series, but beyond those series it got off the rails fast.
Superweapons every time you turn a page, Jedi popping up out of nowhere, and the Yuuzhan Vong which are 90's up the ass.
Dark Empire is one of the worst offenders with the reborn Emperor making at least 3-4 superweapons: world devastators, clone bodies, galaxy gun, two super star destroyers bigger than the executor and then making hyperspace force storms.
The Courtship of Princess Leia is even worse, Han kidnaps Leia, meets force witches on Dantooine who ride rancors into battle and then this evil Prince is courting Leia and she considers it because he has the Hapes clap, I mean Hapes Cluster full of battleships that were somehow overlooked by the Empire.
I wasn't really happy with everything in The Last Jedi, but there's room for a universe beyond the Skywalkers to start with.
I want to move forward, though they've messed that up so badly.Samtemdo8 said:I want my Old Republic movies to be thing, I want my Galatic Republic vs Sith Empire War stories.
No idea. To me they're just movies. Some people go nuts over them, which is fine, like what you like, but I don't see it. They're good enough movies, with some iconic visuals/villains/weapons, the end.COMaestro said:Hell, it's an ENTIRE GALAXY! They already made a full out war movie (Rogue One), and there should be plenty of room in a galaxy to make films of any genre. The trick is, what differentiates it from a standard sci-fi horror film? What makes it Star Wars?Wintermute said:Fuck reboots. So many reboots already. Make a Star Wars horror movie. I'd watch that. My knowledge of Star Wars is limited to "I watched the movies once or twice", but I'm sure in all that expanded universe shit there's some horror story in there, right?
For that matter, what makes Star Wars Star Wars? Sam obviously has his own thoughts on that which he's expressed here, but I'm curious to hear other people's opinions on it.
Rogue One certainly helped, I really wanted a movie more about the "wars" part of Star Wars. A "dirty dozen" style movie worked pretty well. Although, a movie or something about Star Wars real dirty dozen (Wraith Squadron) would appeal to me (if few others.)Samtemdo8 said:What makes Star Wars at its best for me is not the Jedi and the Sith, but the Starship Battles:COMaestro said:Hell, it's an ENTIRE GALAXY! They already made a full out war movie (Rogue One), and there should be plenty of room in a galaxy to make films of any genre. The trick is, what differentiates it from a standard sci-fi horror film? What makes it Star Wars?Wintermute said:Fuck reboots. So many reboots already. Make a Star Wars horror movie. I'd watch that. My knowledge of Star Wars is limited to "I watched the movies once or twice", but I'm sure in all that expanded universe shit there's some horror story in there, right?
For that matter, what makes Star Wars Star Wars? Sam obviously has his own thoughts on that which he's expressed here, but I'm curious to hear other people's opinions on it.
This blew me away more than Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader. I have this idea of my own Sci Fi story that focuses heavily on Spaceship Battles.