Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the Official Title of Episode VIII

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Ezekiel said:
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All these movies just proves to me the old Expanded Universe was much more better and interesting than whatever the house of mouse can spawn.
So you prefer battles over story. Good to know. The cartoon was spectacle more than anything. It didn't have a compelling overarching story.
I mentioned the expanded universe, not just the 2003 Clone Wars.

Things like KOTOR (especially the second one) X-Wing/Tie Fighter games, Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, Certain comics and novels.

All of them are much more interesting than what we are getting now.
 

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Stupid title. The Jedi have been nearly extinct for four movies now. Why does it matter NOW? Luke was already the last Jedi.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the title is extremely on the nose and means that Kylo Ren or Luke Skywalker (or both) won't make it to the end of the film.

The eponymous last Jedi will be Rey...
 

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Things like KOTOR (especially the second one)
I never finished the second game. I got stuck when the main character was captured and you had to play as that lady bounty hunter. I had too few healing items and no good save points. When I tried replaying it, I was dismayed by how bland the combat is. For a game about Jedi and Sith, it fails miserably at capturing them in combat. RPGs kind of suck.

The first game was even more of a rehash than The Force Awakens. None of the Star Wars games I've played feel like Star Wars. They're all more sci-fi than epic fantasy. I guess Knights of the Old Republic comes the closest, but it lacks the charm and the action and borrows too many character traits and designs. I never found the twist that impressive. The twist in Empire Strikes Back was far more impactful and dramatic. Something which would have made the twist more meaningful is if the dark choices weren't so simple all the time. Many of them are just you being a jerk, no grey zone or moral dilemma at all.

I also find movies more interesting than RPGs because they're able to condense all the boring stuff that happens in between what matters.
KOTOR 2 is more lauded for its Story and Characters than its combat and gameplay.

I usually just play the game on easy mode since by the end of the game you get so OP its not funny.
 

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Ezekiel said:
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Ezekiel said:
Samtemdo8 said:
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All these movies just proves to me the old Expanded Universe was much more better and interesting than whatever the house of mouse can spawn.
So you prefer battles over story. Good to know. The cartoon was spectacle more than anything. It didn't have a compelling overarching story.
Id rather have both.
Well, for me, the fight in The Force Awakens is more emotional than the one in The Phantom Menace, because I care about the characters. Darth Maul barely was a character. I also find the classical sword fights in the original trilogy more interesting than the extravagant ninja fights in the prequels, so I'm glad to see the characters use their weapons more conservatively again. It doesn't look as choreographed.

It wouldn't make sense anyway. The old arts are gone and the new swordsmen, especially Luke, are self-trained.
I dont think everyone needs to do ninja flips all the time, but I still wanted more excuses for lightsaber duels, but I do want them to have a purpose too.

I think JJ turned Star Wars into the wrong kind of action movie. If it has to be an action movie, make it one that stands out better, ie Jedi vs Sith. Or make a good story and make the fights meaningful.

Considering I was expecting to see a bunch of Jedi-in-training characters, I was expecting many fights with powerful but uncoordinated people, especially since Luke himself isn't properly versed in the old Jedi ways that Id have liked to see the result of that.
 

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Christ, again? At this point the Jedi should just pack it in, they get reduced to 'the Last Jedi' like once every 30 years at this rate. At least the Sith have the whole 'pupil/master' thing they keep working on so there's at least always two of the bastards kicking around.
 

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This is an outright outrage! I can't for the life of me imagine why on Earth they would give it such a lousy title! I mean... wait, let me pull up the appropriate wikipedia article.

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...huh, 8 is written VIII and not IIX in Roman numerals. Not even in rare occasions. Never mind then, I have nothing to say about the number.

The Last Jedi. Feels a bit like they are retreading old ground.
 

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I'm going to point it out if no-one else will - it broke the naming convention of the trilogies. As in:

The Phantom Menace/A New Hope/The Force Awakens

Attack of the Clones/The Empire Strikes Back/The Last Jedi

Revenge of the Sith/Return of the Jedi/?

Ruined, I tell you, ruined!
 

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Ezekiel said:
Saelune said:
Ezekiel said:
Saelune said:
Ezekiel said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Want Lightsabres? Here you go:


All these movies just proves to me the old Expanded Universe was much more better and interesting than whatever the house of mouse can spawn.
So you prefer battles over story. Good to know. The cartoon was spectacle more than anything. It didn't have a compelling overarching story.
Id rather have both.
Well, for me, the fight in The Force Awakens is more emotional than the one in The Phantom Menace, because I care about the characters. Darth Maul barely was a character. I also find the classical sword fights in the original trilogy more interesting than the extravagant ninja fights in the prequels, so I'm glad to see the characters use their weapons more conservatively again. It doesn't look as choreographed.

It wouldn't make sense anyway. The old arts are gone and the new swordsmen, especially Luke, are self-trained.
I dont think everyone needs to do ninja flips all the time, but I still wanted more excuses for lightsaber duels, but I do want them to have a purpose too.

I think JJ turned Star Wars into the wrong kind of action movie. If it has to be an action movie, make it one that stands out better, ie Jedi vs Sith. Or make a good story and make the fights meaningful.

Considering I was expecting to see a bunch of Jedi-in-training characters, I was expecting many fights with powerful but uncoordinated people, especially since Luke himself isn't properly versed in the old Jedi ways that Id have liked to see the result of that.
One or two duels per movie is enough, and they shouldn't be dragged out for the sake of shallow spectacle. The action should serve the story and the dialogue, as it did in the original trilogy.

I have no idea how I would have done Episode VII. If you introduce Luke Skywalker early in the first movie, he will steal the show from the new generation of characters whom the sequel trilogy should be about. By making him a McGuffin, you're able to gracefully pass the torch. I do find it silly to kill off the whole Jedi Order and reduce them to one man again. It might have been better if, when Rey found Luke at the end, he was with a school of Jedi who have been training in secret.
I detailed it somewhere here before, but my general idea for VII was with Luke as one of the main characters as he tries to build up and run the new Jedi Order, struggling with adhering to Jedi principles despite not really knowing what they are and likely dealing with his own kid, a Jedi in training, as they conflict for whatever reason, and Luke is worried of continuing the cycle rather than breaking it.

Ofcourse part of my idea also involves throwing away the idea that emotions are inherently evil. Hell, I probably would have Luke survive the whole trilogy honestly. Probably kill off his wife/ their kid's mother for the emotional rift, but alot of the kid's plot is them seemingly being swayed to the dark side but never actually doing so.

Id go on, but I dont think you care to here more of basically a fanfic.
 
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And Luke will most likely die
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Eugh i hope this isn't an excuse to kill off Luke so Rey becomes the last jedi left.\
Thirded. And then Rey will become THE Last Jedi.
OR Kylo will turn to the light side - just a hunch based on the color they've picked for the font.
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...Did they really call it the Skywalker Saga?

Was it really too much to hope Rey WASNT Luke's daughter?

You know other people exist besides the Skywalkers, right? Why does it have to be some lineage BS?
Unfortunately it's been decided that Disney wants their 'main' SW movies to be about the family that's a cause and solution to all problems in galaxy.
 

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The Last Jedi. Feels a bit like they are retreading old ground.
Seems fitting given how The Farce Engorges was retreading old ground, and hell Rogue One in many ways was literally retreading old ground. We already know we can never realistically hope for a movie that meets the level of quality of A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back, I guess retreads are what we'll have to put up with.

It's odd that they didn't have better looking stormtroopers though, or why they had the Empire be a rogue shadow state instead of just having managed to remain the dominant power given they made it clear that's exactly what they wanted.

You know out there in the multiverse is a world where Disney made an adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy.
 

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We've known the sequel trilogy would feature the old characters and their children since the eighties, when Lucas asked Hamill if he would be willing to return to the role in thirty years
Didn't that same interview imply that would be the then 4th trilogy by that point, with a Star Wars movie coming out once ever 3 or so years continuously? Not that I'd complain, having 14 movies made by people who want to make something good instead of what we ended up with (8 where 3 where trash, 1 straight up fought against quality and 1 that was only decent due to the better half outweighing the bad half) wasn't much better then what would have happened otherwise, and hell if we'd gotten something like the Thrawn trilogy, well let's be frank even people who hate it don't have an argument against the claim it that Heir to the Empire would have made a better movie then TFA did.
 

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Eugh i hope this isn't an excuse to kill off Luke so Rey becomes the last jedi left.

Actually whilst am wishing for stuff, i'd like it of luke survives all the events of this new trilogy, make him the sole survivor out of the old cast and avoid the "old mentor dies" cliche.
Jedi can be plural or singular. Also it's been confirmed since the summer that he'll be in episode 9.
 

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Ezekiel said:
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We've known the sequel trilogy would feature the old characters and their children since the eighties, when Lucas asked Hamill if he would be willing to return to the role in thirty years
Didn't that same interview imply that would be the then 4th trilogy by that point, with a Star Wars movie coming out once ever 3 or so years continuously? Not that I'd complain, having 14 movies made by people who want to make something good instead of what we ended up with (8 where 3 where trash, 1 straight up fought against quality and 1 that was only decent due to the better half outweighing the bad half) wasn't much better then what would have happened otherwise, and hell if we'd gotten something like the Thrawn trilogy, well let's be frank even people who hate it don't have an argument against the claim it that Heir to the Empire would have made a better movie then TFA did.
I plan to read the Thrawn trilogy eventually, but I'm not that excited about more adventures for Luke and his friends in those books. Luke had his beginning, middle and end in the original trilogy. He grew up, matured into a Jedi Knight. It was time to pass the torch. I wanna see if he has acquired new powers in thirty years and what kind of a man he has become, but I'm glad he is playing a mentor now. I also don't like the idea of Leia giving birth to twins in the Thrawn trilogy, as if Skywalkers have to have twins.

Why remake the Thrawn trilogy? It would just be redundant. I'd rather have two versions of Star Wars to enjoy.
Well to be fair Luke and Leia being twins happened over a decade after due to the prequels retconning what had been before an explicit gap in years between the two. And I don't think the Luke we'll be seeing in the sequel trilogy will be anything similar to the one in the original trilogy. We've already seen Han Solo was nothing at all a logical continuation of the man he was (the idea that he went back to a life of crime after the events of the original trilogy is insulting and shows even less care was put into making TFA then the prequels). And that's before getting started on the setting itself (even ignoring the fact the First Order has now means of making Starkiller Base, even if they did they wouldn't be stupid enough to do so).

As for remaking the Thrawn Trilogy, even ignoring the fact that it's a story that most people who have watched the movies have not read, it's better then what we've gotten so far, and remaking a book that has never been made into a movie is, in my opinion, far better then remaking a movie we've already seen.
 

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What did 'The Force Awakens' have to do with the plot other than that stupid one of line about an awakening in the Force?

'Rogue One' was what they called the shuttle they stole, other than that not much relation to the story.

This title may also have nothing to do with the plot.