Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the Official Title of Episode VIII

[Buizel91]

Eugh i hope this isn't an excuse to kill off Luke so Rey becomes the last jedi left.

Actually whilst am wishing for stuff, i'd like it of luke survives all the events of this new trilogy, make him the sole survivor out of the old cast and avoid the "old mentor dies" cliche.

Jedi can be plural or singular. Also it's been confirmed since the summer that he'll be in episode 9.

Admittedly he could come back as a Force Ghost in ep 9, But yeh, Jedi can be plural.

I honestly think the title is referring to Luke, as Rey technically isn't a Jedi yet (unless a considerable amount of time has passed) The red outlining could imply Kylo comes back to the light to be one of the last Jedi, he did seem conflicted before he killed Han. And if rumours are true, Kylo discovers Lukes location and launches an attack with the other Knights of Ren. So i could definitely see Luke breaking Snokes hold on Kylo.

Hope we see more of the New Republic as well, would love to see how the New Republic reacts to what The First Order did.

 

[Buizel91]

What did 'The Force Awakens' have to do with the plot other than that stupid one of line about an awakening in the Force?

'Rogue One' was what they called the shuttle they stole, other than that not much relation to the story.

This title may also have nothing to do with the plot.

It awakened in Rey, That's what i got from it anyway.

 

[Zontar]

Well, I disagree. I don't want a redundant movie trilogy. I also find the idea that The Force Awakens is a remake pretty exaggerated and rather baseless. There are a lot of similarities, but I think it establishes its own identity.

The movie was almost scene-for-scene a remake of A New Hope, only with the order changed up a bit and the scale of things being even more unbelievable (such as the even bigger Death Star being destroyed by an even stupider means by an even smaller force pulling off an even more impossible mission).

Han returned to smuggling after losing his son. It crushed him. He said, "I went back to the only thing I was ever any good at." The line acknowledged the man he had become in Empire, Jedi and after. For a while, he WAS a leader. I found him going back to smuggling believable.

Well I didn't. I just can't imagine a scenario where he'd be willing to abandon all the people he cared about due to the loss of his son. The reason given only makes it that much less believable.

I find The Force Awakens a lot better than you make it out to be. Not great like the old movies, though.

It's definitely on par with the prequels in terms of its bad writing and plot, and even worst in regards to how dated it is. While the prequels have the visuals make them dated, TFA has the very way people speak make it time stamped since we've never seen that style used before the 10's and people don't talk like that in real life either. This same problem is also able to be seen in the Power Ranger trailer as well as some other movies, so it's pretty clear Hollywood has created a new shitty trend no one likes that exist purely for its own sake.

 

[Zontar]

What did 'The Force Awakens' have to do with the plot other than that stupid one of line about an awakening in the Force?

'Rogue One' was what they called the shuttle they stole, other than that not much relation to the story.

This title may also have nothing to do with the plot.

It awakened in Rey, That's what i got from it anyway.

To be fair, given how the poor writing and structure of the movie, coupled with Rey's acting being legitimately bad (I don't know if she's a good actor, but she was not in TFA) and the fact that Finn was a legitimately more interesting and better character, I thought he was the protagonist.

Sure he has his problems (the star destroyer escape scene makes him out to be a monster and shows how little the writers and Abrams cared about making a good movie over a stupid but flashy one) but he was the only one in the entire thing I could manage to care about.

 

[Buizel91]

What did 'The Force Awakens' have to do with the plot other than that stupid one of line about an awakening in the Force?

'Rogue One' was what they called the shuttle they stole, other than that not much relation to the story.

This title may also have nothing to do with the plot.

It awakened in Rey, That's what i got from it anyway.

To be fair, given how the poor writing and structure of the movie, coupled with Rey's acting being legitimately bad (I don't know if she's a good actor, but she was not in TFA) and the fact that Finn was a legitimately more interesting and better character, I thought he was the protagonist.

Sure he has his problems (the star destroyer escape scene makes him out to be a monster and shows how little the writers and Abrams cared about making a good movie over a stupid but flashy one) but he was the only one in the entire thing I could manage to care about.

As far as i'm aware, like Hamil in ep 4, this is Daisy's first time on the big screen as a lead role, i think she had some minor appearances in other films and i think she did theater work, but TFA is her first triple A film.

I agree she wasn't the best (I can only hope it improves in ep 8) but for me TFA had 2 main Protagonists, Finn and her, and both complemented each other great i thought.

 

[Zontar]

I agree she wasn't the best (I can only hope it improves in ep 8) but for me TFA had 2 main Protagonists, Finn and her, and both complemented each other great i thought.

I disagree, apart from having to give Finn a different reason to go to Starkiller Base and having to have the asspull reason for his surviving the final fight be changed to the ground splitting before Rey reached the end of what should have been the trilogy long arc, there's really not much that would have had to be changed if Rey was written out of the movie entirely.

While Poe was very obviously supposed to die, if it came to light that Rey was a last minute addition to the plot before filming began I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

A thought:

Luke, realizing that Jedi have gotten their face kicked in a few too many times, has decided that he will no longer train Jedi. Therefore, he is the last Jedi. He's going to train Rey as something else--still give her Jedi training, just not call it that--and thus, no more Jedi.

I mean, there aren't any Sith running around right now either, as far as we know. There are Dark Side users to be sure, but I never heard anyone address anyone as "Darth", let alone "Sith".

 

[Recusant]

What did 'The Force Awakens' have to do with the plot other than that stupid one of line about an awakening in the Force?

'Rogue One' was what they called the shuttle they stole, other than that not much relation to the story.

This title may also have nothing to do with the plot.

You may be on to something there. After all, Return of the Jedi didn't see the Jedi returning, and, well... I've seen all the movies, played about 2/3rds of the games, and read a few dozen of the books (cut me some slack; there are a lot of books), and I'm still not sure what exactly the "Phantom Menace" actually is.

 

[Avnger]

I'm still not sure what exactly the "Phantom Menace" actually is.

My thoughts are that the "phantom menace" referred to was the whole Trade Federation thing that led into the Confederacy in Ep 2. It was the facade behind which the real menace of Sidious and the Sith were working.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

Man, the amount of salt in this thread puts the Dead Sea to shame.

For my part...it's a title. Let's face it, there's never been an original Star Wars title, and this is no different. I'm more interested in, well, the plot. At this point, trying to draw too many conclusions from the title is pure speculation, and not necessarily accurate speculation.

 

[Hawki]

A thought:

Luke, realizing that Jedi have gotten their face kicked in a few too many times, has decided that he will no longer train Jedi. Therefore, he is the last Jedi. He's going to train Rey as something else--still give her Jedi training, just not call it that--and thus, no more Jedi.

I mean, there aren't any Sith running around right now either, as far as we know. There are Dark Side users to be sure, but I never heard anyone address anyone as "Darth", let alone "Sith".

It would kind of fit in. One of the most intriguing plot points in TFA from Maz is that the Dark Side operates through different agents over time. First it was the Sith (prequel trilogy and before), then the Empire (OT), and now the First Order. Maybe the Light Side needs to take a similar approach?

and I'm still not sure what exactly the "Phantom Menace" actually is.

Almost certainly Darth Sidious. His presence is felt/seen, he's pulling the strings of both the Republic and Trade Federation, and no-one within the former group is aware he even exists. So, he's the "Phantom Menace" so to speak, and everything that occurs in the film works out to his benefit.

 

[Ukomba]

"Not the last of the old Jedi, Luke. The first of the new."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke Skywalker, True EU

 

[ChaplainOrion]

I could see this as being the end of the Jedi as we know it. With some other force sensitive force replacing them as the agents of the light side. Maybe even moving more towards a neither dark nor light side approach. Embracing emotions could be good, perhaps trying to constructively approach them instead of stuffing them deep down inside themselves only for it to blow the first moment they feel loss of something they love. I feel a lot of Sith would have been stopped if the Jedi taught how to deal with hate.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

Kylo Ren gets "seduced by the light"

The red text kind of gives it away, doesn't it? I had a feeling he would be redeemed, especially after Adam Driver talked about the sequel exploring his humanity.

it's a little unsubtle lol. And he does monologue in VII about not being seduced by the light. Which is a first. So they must have been planning something like this from the start