Stonking Great Game Contest Now Live!

[Spinwhiz]

hmmmm....

if your going to give developers the chance of monertary compensation of some kind then you put it in the contest info, so people don't judge the contest with bad info and leave nasty comments .

but anyways, owning everything in the game, including source code, seem a wee bit exsessive, I realize you do have to protect your copyrights but a simple owning everything in the game zp-related would suffice . But this point becomes moot if you have to copyright everything to distibute the game I guess.

And I really don't see why you have to have any limitations on the games content (provided its zp related and providied it's legal) seeing how alot of the zp humor is about dick-jokes about "blow-job dispensers" and the like .

Now I may be acting on bad info here again but still it seems like your being a tad exxcessive.


@proteus :

just becuase everyone else dose it, dosen't make it right.

Our house, our rules. If you don't like the terms, nobody is forcing you to enter.

 

[sneak_copter]

Say I have NO experience at all... and my game is terrible....

Ah, what the hell. I might as well have a go.

 

[Spinwhiz]

Say I have NO experience at all... and my game is terrible....

Ah, what the hell. I might as well have a go.

That is the spirit! Who is to say we won't love it?

 

[Spinwhiz]

Would it be safe to assume that after the event we could strip all Zero Punctuation/Escapist art assets /references out, replace it with our own non-related content, re-release the game as our own copyright, and not get the pants sued off us by the Escapist/Themis Media?

Ultimately most of my source code just gets thrown away at the end of a game dev compo since it is far too hacky to be reused. Even if I did reuse source code from this project I don't think Themis Media would be too perturbed, so long as I wasn't exploiting their brand names.

Please correct me if I am wrong here Spinwhiz.

I'll ask and get back to you with an EDIT:

 

[Neosage]

Am I allowed to post my game to extra sites before/after the closing date?

No. Our assets are being used as part of this event and no other site has the right to show this material.

Ever?

Friends,

The rules are set such that we are protected as much as you are. This is our brand and our copyright and we would like to keep it that way. If we did not add those rules, that means anyone could just make a ZP related game and we would have no protection at all.

As for the chance for "monetary compensation"...do you honestly think we would take a game that we didn't create to market? And if we did, don't you think it would be in our best interest to INCLUDE the developer? It doesn't make much business sense to leave out the person who created and grab a bunch of bad PR from the market, industry and community.

We are looking forward to seeing some awesome games that we and the community will enjoy playing.

Also, don't you legally become the creators after we sign the contract?

 

[Fairn]

We make the game, then send it in expecting monetary compensation, but after we submitted it's already *yours*. You're legally released of any consequences.

The people you are referring to should learn to read all contest information (instead of assuming the info) from this point on because there's no reason anyone should be expecting monetary compensation from this contest. Like you stated, money isn't a prize here.

 

[MinionOfCthulhu]

Excessive vulgarity, lewdness or profanity

So what exactly is "excessive"? I mean, it's a game based on Zero Punctuation, which is all of the above. Are we talking less vulgar as an average ZP episode, as vulgar as an average ZP episode, or what?

 

[Spinwhiz]

Am I allowed to post my game to extra sites before/after the closing date?

No. Our assets are being used as part of this event and no other site has the right to show this material.

Ever?

Correct, unless we give consent to do so, which isn't out of the realm of possibility.

Friends,

The rules are set such that we are protected as much as you are. This is our brand and our copyright and we would like to keep it that way. If we did not add those rules, that means anyone could just make a ZP related game and we would have no protection at all.

As for the chance for "monetary compensation"...do you honestly think we would take a game that we didn't create to market? And if we did, don't you think it would be in our best interest to INCLUDE the developer? It doesn't make much business sense to leave out the person who created and grab a bunch of bad PR from the market, industry and community.

We are looking forward to seeing some awesome games that we and the community will enjoy playing.

Also, don't you legally become the creators after we sign the contract?

Legally, we become the owners and can do what we want with it but it wouldn't be in our best interest to not include the original developer. If the game is awesome, why wouldn't we make you awesome along with it?

 

[Spinwhiz]

We make the game, then send it in expecting monetary compensation, but after we submitted it's already *yours*. You're legally released of any consequences.

The people you are referring to should learn to read all contest information (instead of assuming the info) from this point on because there's no reason anyone should be expecting monetary compensation from this contest. Like you stated, money isn't a prize here.

Friends,

The rules are set such that we are protected as much as you are. This is our brand and our copyright and we would like to keep it that way. If we did not add those rules, that means anyone could just make a ZP related game and we would have no protection at all.

As for the chance for "monetary compensation"...do you honestly think we would take a game that we didn't create to market? And if we did, don't you think it would be in our best interest to INCLUDE the developer? It doesn't make much business sense to leave out the person who created and grab a bunch of bad PR from the market, industry and community.

We are looking forward to seeing some awesome games that we and the community will enjoy playing.

In answer to your statement. =)

Money is not a prize, that is correct and we aren't even looking into that avenue. We wanted to create a fun event for all of the ZP fans, that was the main point. The prize is to have Yahtzee himself judge your game and have it featured in an upcoming ZP. Not to mention the game will be up on our site.

 

[thedo12]

yeah the contract really needs to be more specific before I see if I can offer my services to anyone making a game (I'm better then average at art, and know a bit of as3, and I really know my way around flash )

like what constitutes , "excessive vulgarity, lewdness or profanity" if its complelty based on the opinion of the judges then someone saying "shit" could potentialy disqualify a game.

 

[UnrealCanine]

SO what does second place (+) get?

 

[Spinwhiz]

Create a game that can be seen and played by the mass public without us having to warn anyone about it. Excessive: exceeding what is usual, proper, necessary, or normal.

So, if it's not necessary and doesn't add to the game, don't do it.

 

[thedo12]

so dose that mean a game where the objective is to collect blow-job dispenser's out the question?

also, can we make our own graphics or do we need to use , the ones I assume are in the downloadable kit?

 

[Taerdin]

Would we be allowed to include the names and possibly likenesses of other Escapist properties/video series?

Can we get an idea of what exactly the games are being judged on? Is it just purely based on 'fun'? How big of a factor are creativity, effective use of assets, replayability, length, story, accessibility, etc. I know its the one you think is 'best', but some more help on what exactly would lead you to think a game is good or best would be helpful.

 

[Yoruichi_]

Ill be posting an entry, hope yahtzee likes quicktime events

 

[Thundarbolt]

Hey guys.

Canadian Game development student here, a few of us are wondering if we can submit an entry as a team or if the rules state that it has to be one game per person.

 

[augustlilleaas]

Why exactly is Flash a requirement? Isn't browser based enough? I want to submit a Javascript based game.