Studio Head Quits Over "Exaggerated" Military Claim

[SelectivelyEvil13]

Don't exaggerate your job positions (particularly ones people take seriously).

On the Deadliest Warrior 3rd season, I think whenever they mention him (while plugging the "Deadliest Warrior Game!") they refer to him as a former Green Beret.

Now a part of me is wondering if they were planning a 4th season, and what this would mean regarding that. Personally, I thought that as dumb as the show can be, the first two (before Mr. Daly joined) were a lot more entertaining, for what they were worth.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I feel like I've heard that name before but cant place it. like he was in an episode or something.

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eh. could have been worse. he could have actually been one of the guys they bring on as "experts".

 

[Von Strimmer]

My family has been a military family with my Granddad and Dad serving in the sas. Granddad serving in Hong Kong(peaceful), then Korea(real war) pre-sas. Dad Germany(peaceful) and Northern Ireland(guerilla war) pre-sas.

In the eyes of military personal:
Special forces (Very Good),
In for life Veterans,
Veterans,
FNG's,
Civilians (Neutral),
Civil Servants/Local Council workers
Bankers/Politicians
Criminals
Liars about military service status
Murders
Sex Offenders(Lowest of the Low)

...Pretty low down on the list.

Sex offenders huh? You should see Australian Military at the moment (For the Record I have tremendous respect for the men and women of the ADF). However it seems not a week goes by now without hearing of serviceman (usually Navy) who sexually assaults a young cadet. Then there was the Skype Scandal (shudder).

Point is TO ME that list comes off as slightly bigoted (it makes sense, but thats how it seems).

 

[LobsterFeng]

I didn't really like Deadliest Warrior anyway, it made no sense I mean how can a computer figure out individual skill?

 

[JesterRaiin]

his claim of being a former Green Beret were "exaggerated."

And that's, fellow Escapists, why you should never ever fall for "my credentials are more than enough for you to accept my opinion as superior" trap.

 

[risenbone]

The science they used to determin the computers results were pretty crap as well. I watched a couple of episodes and well when you decide that a gattling gun is better than a WW1 Vickers and a springfield carbine is better than a Lee Enfield .303 because you didn't take effective range and mobility into account then I'm sorry your just plain wrong and nothing you say can make me take you seriously.

 

[StarCecil]

What's funny is that if he had said "I served in a Green Beret unit" then people still would have had the same image in their heads, but no one would have raised shit. Thing is if you're part of a unit for a long time, and serve with them, then you eventually more or less become one of them. There's a reason that when they get deployed, Marines don't give Corpsman any shit for being in the Navy.
I have to agree with Micalas. It doesn't really matter, and this is more or less a non-issue. If he was telling stories of things he did that didn't happen, then it would be a different matter.

Every Corpsman I ever met got shit for being Navy, but that was in good fun. The difference here is that a Corpsman learns many of the same things we do - they get extensive training in combat and operating with Marines, bunk with Marines and deploy with Marines. They even wear the same digis. However, the Green Berets, all special forces actually, train harder than hard and go through absolute hell to be what they are. They are that extra special group of warriors that put themselves at extreme risk at all moments of the day to be who they are.

He did not. He was attached to them. He wasn't even special forces. That's the difference. The men he served with probably liked him and probably accepted him as one of them, but that does not give him the right to say he's a Green Beret. A Corpsman doesn't go around saying he's a Marine - he says he's a sailor.

I don't know if you've served (knowing that Marines use Navy Corpsmen isn't what I'd expect of a civilian) but if you had gone through Boot or Basic or whatever, you'd know that it's all about earning the right to call yourself a Marine/Soldier/Sailor/Airman. You can't just say you were because you have a uniform.

EDIT: Read your second post. What were you in the service? MP or Combat Engineer or something? I'm a pencil-pushing reservist.

 

[maddog015]

Well, embellishing (well, lying) about their resume didn't hurt Chef Robert Irvine for too long. Granted, he was thrown off his Dinner: Impossible show and off the network for a year, but he came back and is bigger than ever on the Food Network.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Sex offenders huh? You should see Australian Military at the moment (For the Record I have tremendous respect for the men and women of the ADF). However it seems not a week goes by now without hearing of serviceman (usually Navy) who sexually assaults a young cadet. Then there was the Skype Scandal (shudder).

Point is TO ME that list comes off as slightly bigoted (it makes sense, but thats how it seems).

The military has no monopoly on that, unfortunately. Almost everyone else tends to put sex offenders towards the bottom of the list as well, but there's still a massive amount of them round.

 

[Random berk]

I'm just curious.. anybody have a picture of this guy?

Ok... apparently not.

 

[Cyrus Hanley]

Hahahaha, he's closer to Jack Ryan than John Clark.

 

[ike42]

I don't really see why it matters. Who gives a shit if he lied about his military experience. If he was looking to become a military advisor then it would matter. As it stands, all he's doing is using his claimed knowledge to make a shitty fighting game that any military history buff could do.

I'm guessing by your quote, you never served, since anybody who served would never say that. People who served in the military, take their accomplishments and achievements very seriously. Special Forces in particular, since the selection process to be an operator is so rigorous. It's not just about the guy lying to make himself more appealing, it's about the injustice to those who go on to be un-thanked heroes that unselfishly put their lives at risk on every mission. (I'm not mad at the comment, I just want to commenter to be aware that lying about one's military experience is much more severe than a college football coach lying about his resume - George O'Leary)

While I haven't served I'm no stranger to the military. I'm a CIV employee for the Department of Defense. I have worked with and talked to military damn near everyday. In fact, one of my first assignments was briefing an Army Colonel. I have tremendous respect for the military.

Apparently you don't have any respect for military members if you think it's okay for people to steal the prestige that others have earned by making false claims. People have laid their lives on the line and made countless other sacrifices as Green Beret and to claim to be a part of that noble tradition merely because you have associated with those heroes in part cheapens and insults those men. If you truly had respect for them you wouldn't make the argument "who gives a shit?"

 

[Micalas]

I don't really see why it matters. Who gives a shit if he lied about his military experience. If he was looking to become a military advisor then it would matter. As it stands, all he's doing is using his claimed knowledge to make a shitty fighting game that any military history buff could do.

I'm guessing by your quote, you never served, since anybody who served would never say that. People who served in the military, take their accomplishments and achievements very seriously. Special Forces in particular, since the selection process to be an operator is so rigorous. It's not just about the guy lying to make himself more appealing, it's about the injustice to those who go on to be un-thanked heroes that unselfishly put their lives at risk on every mission. (I'm not mad at the comment, I just want to commenter to be aware that lying about one's military experience is much more severe than a college football coach lying about his resume - George O'Leary)

While I haven't served I'm no stranger to the military. I'm a CIV employee for the Department of Defense. I have worked with and talked to military damn near everyday. In fact, one of my first assignments was briefing an Army Colonel. I have tremendous respect for the military.

Apparently you don't have any respect for military members if you think it's okay for people to steal the prestige that others have earned by making false claims. People have laid their lives on the line and made countless other sacrifices as Green Beret and to claim to be a part of that noble tradition merely because you have associated with those heroes in part cheapens and insults those men. If you truly had respect for them you wouldn't make the argument "who gives a shit?"

A few posts up there's a Marine that agreed with me. I suppose he doesn't respect the military either.

The fact of the matter is, the guy's a bullshitter. The only reason people care about his bullshit is because he's claiming sacred bullshit. It's no different if he was telling bimbos at the bar that he can bench 3,000 pounds. Would you give a shit if that's what he claimed? More than likely not. Does that mean you don't have respect for someone who can bench 3,000 pounds? Of course not. It would be a hell of an achievement. As it stands he just a petty bullshitter. The topic of his bullshit is irrelevant.

 

[ike42]

Apparently you don't have any respect for military members if you think it's okay for people to steal the prestige that others have earned by making false claims. People have laid their lives on the line and made countless other sacrifices as Green Beret and to claim to be a part of that noble tradition merely because you have associated with those heroes in part cheapens and insults those men. If you truly had respect for them you wouldn't make the argument "who gives a shit?"

Quick Question, why should anyone be respected based solely on their occupation?

Being special forces is not just an occupation. That implies that anyone can, or possibly would do that job. People who join the special forces are making a sacrifice that goes much deeper than just taking a stupid job. Being a military member of any type there are huge sacrifices that have to be taken which you probably wouldn't understand if you've never served. Special forces multiply the sacrifices considerably because they have both increased risk on missions and more aggressive deployment schedules. No mission that requires the use of special forces could be considered routine.

But never mind, you go ahead and feel safe sitting on your couch and continue bitching about how you're expected to respect heroes. Don't worry, they will fight and die for your right to be a prick.