Study Declares Dead Space 2 "Scariest 360 Game"
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There really aren't that many commands. A console controller would have excess buttons, if that tells you anything. There's the whole WASD thing, jump, crouch, lean left or right, interact, lantern, journal, throw, walk, and maybe one or two I'm forgetting.Nenarek said:
Go, now, be scared for life.
Interesting point about cut scenes. People who have been gaming for a while tend to recognize that the non-interactive nature of cut scenes means that while bad things may happen (Gee, I just got knocked out and lost all my weapons... Never seen that before...) nothing fatal will happen because the nature of a game is that player failure has to be dictated by player action. Even canned player death sequences only occur after the player has failed (and while I haven't played DS2 yet, the deaths in DS1 mostly raised feelings of, "Yeah, yeah, I know... Rub it in, why don't you...")
In-cinema "quicktime" events skew this a little, but any game designer worth their salt who actually uses those bastard things knows enough to put the player as close to the sequences beginning as possible after a failure that necessitates a retry (in part because they're going to catch a lot of flak if they fail on such an elemental issue of game design.)
I do somewhat wonder about how we're defining "fear", though. Monster-closet "boo" fear is easier to instill and, I imagine, easier to measure than ongoing "things are getting worse and there's nothing I can do about it" dread. I also have more respect for designers who can instill the latter.
In-cinema "quicktime" events skew this a little, but any game designer worth their salt who actually uses those bastard things knows enough to put the player as close to the sequences beginning as possible after a failure that necessitates a retry (in part because they're going to catch a lot of flak if they fail on such an elemental issue of game design.)
I do somewhat wonder about how we're defining "fear", though. Monster-closet "boo" fear is easier to instill and, I imagine, easier to measure than ongoing "things are getting worse and there's nothing I can do about it" dread. I also have more respect for designers who can instill the latter.
I would say that, if this were conducted on a PC, that the result would be a toss up between Amnesia: The Dark Descent, or Penumbra.
OT: Dead Space 2 is a freakin' scary game, but Condemned is the only game on a console to make me turn off the system in fear.....for PC, it was Penumbra
OT: Dead Space 2 is a freakin' scary game, but Condemned is the only game on a console to make me turn off the system in fear.....for PC, it was Penumbra
Alot of people are calling Alan Wake a horror when it's not, it's a thriller. There's a difference. Alan Wake is based around "all out mind fuck" (which I found it can do if you manage to get immersed), and not, as someone else put it, "BOO!GOTCHA!". Calling Alan Wake a horror is like calling Inception a horror because they are both mind-fuckasaruses based in unfamiliar territory but I can kinda see why people get this mixed up and it's due to the games habit of ,to paraphrase a great man, drop to it's knees and chomp it's lips around Stephen King dick. although reading this back it does seem to be an opinion based kinda thing so feel free to say if I'm wrong in your opinion.
Also a point actually close to this subject I feel that Dead Space 2 isn't that scary but it can get the adrenaline going but not because of sheer terror.
Also a point actually close to this subject I feel that Dead Space 2 isn't that scary but it can get the adrenaline going but not because of sheer terror.
To me,it seems like they measure fright,not fear. Fear is not having a monnter pop out infront of you, which is pretty much all what DS2 does.
If developpers actually base a game off this data, all you would get is a startling game.
I'll repeat it as often as need be, you cannot cause fear in a player armed with a shotgun by having a monster pop out of a ceiling. In my case, after the 0.5 seconds of "ohshit" moment, I blast the baddie away and call it a hurtful name.
If developpers actually base a game off this data, all you would get is a startling game.
I'll repeat it as often as need be, you cannot cause fear in a player armed with a shotgun by having a monster pop out of a ceiling. In my case, after the 0.5 seconds of "ohshit" moment, I blast the baddie away and call it a hurtful name.
Sorry, but I would want at least 25 people in this study before I'd say it's reasonable. And even then there is several can's of worms to deal with. Also, I glad they included the frustration part as the game was far better at pissing me off more then it was scaring me.
Bull. Shit. This study is monumentally biased. I mean, FOUR GAMES? There's no possible way to gauge something as being the "scariest thing EVUH" from matching it against three other games. Sure, it's scarier than re5. I've had family picnics scarier than that shit. DS2's entire "fright" appeal is just smear as much gore around as possible and hope people freak out.
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No way.
No way.
If they put Condemned 2 on that list, the bear section alone would have made everyone piss themselves many times more than the entirety of the other games on that list.
I've only played the first Dead Space and didn't really think it was scary at all, and I can't really imagen the second one being that different. If only Amnesia was on there, I only played the demo and it freaked me out more than any game i've played before.
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Okay, done. The dead space games are decent action games but I consider them in the running for worst horror games in existence. Even Left 4 dead is more scary then those games. Also why the hell are there only 4 games? Where the hell are the rest of the 360's survival horror library.
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Okay, done. The dead space games are decent action games but I consider them in the running for worst horror games in existence. Even Left 4 dead is more scary then those games. Also why the hell are there only 4 games? Where the hell are the rest of the 360's survival horror library.
Nope. It's Condemned. If you didn't find Condemned scary, then I'm sorry to say that you don't exist. You may want to fix that problem. Dead Space 2 tries so hard to be John Carpenter's 'The Thing' that it's almost sad, and that film was more gratuitously disgusting than genuinely scary. Wait, is Resident Evil 5 on that list? As in that hilarious, racially-insensitive, boulder-punching romp? It's intense, yeah, but not scary. Get rid of this and Alan Wake (good, atmospheric game but not scary), add F.E.A.R. 1/2 or BioShock.
Pfff, what competition this was. I freakin' loved Dead Space 2 though.
But Dead Space 2 was more OMG THAT'S COOL instead of scary in my opinion.
I mean, did anyone REALLY jump when the orderly got attacked in the intro?
I only thought: wow, look at the freakin' awesome graphics on that Necromorph dude trying to eat my face!
The only scary game from that list was Condemned.
That was way worse than Dead Space 2, it was not even all THAT scary though. Just a few parts that made me jump really really hard.
It was more the intense atmosphere that got me.
I'll never forgive the game for the mannequin sequence though.
THE MANNEQUIN SCENE!!!!
But Dead Space 2 was more OMG THAT'S COOL instead of scary in my opinion.
I mean, did anyone REALLY jump when the orderly got attacked in the intro?
I only thought: wow, look at the freakin' awesome graphics on that Necromorph dude trying to eat my face!
The only scary game from that list was Condemned.
That was way worse than Dead Space 2, it was not even all THAT scary though. Just a few parts that made me jump really really hard.
It was more the intense atmosphere that got me.
I'll never forgive the game for the mannequin sequence though.
THE MANNEQUIN SCENE!!!!
