Superman Quits America, Fox News Readers Take the News Badly

StellarViking

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Just saying, if he were real (Which he isn't so it's kind of pointless for everyone to get their panties in a bunch anyway), would YOU tell him he hates America? I know he's been associated with America for a while, but he isn't American (or real). You wouldn't be seeing everyone in Canada crap themselves in rage because Wolverine wanted to get a Swiss citizenship or something. Maybe it's time that the comic book industry developed an actual American-themed superhero, who champions justice the American way. Maybe he'd have a star on his shield and a helmet with a big "A" on it in case we miss the point.
 

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You know I used to think that Gotham City was situated in England for some reason. Boy wouldn't that just piss them off if Batman turned out to be british.
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
Exterminas said:
I like how there isn't even any logic in it.

Superman goes from being an US-Citizen to being a World-Citizen.
This is America Hate how?

America is part of the world. In his transsition he doesn't take away his affection for america, but takes on some more for the rest of the planet. How is this in any way bad for America? It is still part of this world, right?
I don't see how a person, fictional or otherwise, renouncing his citizenship to a country, isn't a slap in the face to that country.

The backlash is easily understandable.
The punsh line is that he isn't renouncing his citizenship, he is expanding it.
It isn't like he is saying "Suck it, America, I will go with France from now on". He doesn't adapt a new citizenship at all and chooses a state of world citizenship.

That is no slap in anyones face.
 

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Alon Shechter said:
Yeah, and I bet me even DARING to STEP on non-american soil makes me a Nazi America-hating bastard.
I gave up on American people's intelligence when they, the descendants of immigrants that built this nation, refuse to let immigrants in because they are "stealing our jobs".
You do know that people have been saying that for years and years and years. It's famous whenever a big wave of immigration (Asians in California, Irish after the potato famine) happens, but, really, people have always complained that the immigrants are taking their jobs. It doesn't make them any more correct, but it's still the case.

More generally, I suppose, if Superman is going global, that leaves us Iron Man to be construed as an implement of US policy, right? (You know the angry, alcoholic, devil-may-care engineer.)
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
It's there he reveals his intention to give up his US citizenship, saying that the world is too small for him to be tied to any one country, and that he was tired of having his actions seen as "instruments of US policy."
Can I be pissed only because it directly breaks continuity with Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns?
 

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meganmeave said:
Oh please. Now these idiots realize the comic book industry is liberal? That's almost like coming to the epiphany that Stephen Colbert, is in fact, not on Bill O'Reilly's side.
Last I heard, many of them haven't figured that one out yet either.
 

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Jumplion said:
Okay, seriously what the fuck is up with bolding every other word in a character's sentence in comic books?

Seriously, it's really annoying to read unnecessary emphasis on words that don't need emphasizing! Can someone explain to me why this crap keeps going on?

OT: That's interesting, it does give Superman a more global appeal and less centered on a single country's interest. Also, I don't know whether to consider those comments funny or sad.
Maybe it was secretly Frank Miller who wrote the story?

I support this, I always laugh at the "Truth, justice, and the American way" thing. Superman is a world-renowned superhero, not Uncle Sam.
 

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Jumplion said:
Okay, seriously what the fuck is up with bolding every other word in a character's sentence in comic books?

Seriously, it's really annoying to read unnecessary emphasis on words that don't need emphasizing! Can someone explain to me why this crap keeps going on?

OT: That's interesting, it does give Superman a more global appeal and less centered on a single country's interest. Also, I don't know whether to consider those comments funny or sad.
I agree! There must be a reason for all the bold text, but if there is, I haven't seen it...
 

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Oh no, Superman, a man who isn't even from Earth at all is giving up his U.S. citizenship? What could the writers possibly be thinking?
 

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Last I check Superman has a BIG S-SHIELD on his chest not the US Flag.
And Superman is supposed to be a private individual not a Solder in the US Military.

I though this was settled that Super man isn't Solely for the United States in the beginning of Super Man IV The Quest for Peace, when
Superman appears to the UN not in representation of the United States but to represent the Whole world.

But unfortunately people associate Superman with all things American like Apple pie, Base ball and all that good stuff.

Now I can see people getting mad if Captain America said he quitting the US.

It is surprising that Fox news actually produce a half Intellectual article for once, unfortunately its all based on the actions of a FICTIONAL CHARACTER.
 

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Exterminas said:
Sonic Doctor said:
I don't see how a person, fictional or otherwise, renouncing his citizenship to a country, isn't a slap in the face to that country.

The backlash is easily understandable.
The punch line is that he isn't renouncing his citizenship, he is expanding it.
It isn't like he is saying "Suck it, America, I will go with France from now on". He doesn't adapt a new citizenship at all and chooses a state of world citizenship.

That is no slap in anyone's face.
Really???
It is no slap in anyone's face??

Hmm, and hear I thought there were people that lived in America. I guess I don't have a face to slap.
 

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Regardless of whether you lean towards the left or the right, I think we can all agree that anyone who gets up in arms over Superman helping non-Americans is a) a massive twat and b) really needs to find something more important to ***** about.
captainfluoxetine said:
I'm glad you can be swayed by reason and logic ^.^

I've just yet to find a comic I find both a good story and easily acessable. The Farscape comics seemed to me to fit the tone of the show, the characterisations and everything downt to a T. Whereas other comic book continuations of shows i loved (Trek, Buffy, Angel) were 'meh' to me at best.

Wait thats a lie. I loved MAUS by Art Spenglreeerjewguy.
Try Hellboy, Y: The Last Man, or Transmetropolitan. Hellboy's stories have a very artful simplicity about them while still furthering the development of a huge and interesting setting. The other two will change the way you look at the world, I'm almost completely sure of it.
 

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WorldCritic said:
Oh no, Superman, a man who isn't even from Earth at all is giving up his U.S. citizenship? What could the writers possibly be thinking?
I'll tell you exactly what they're thinking. "Man, we need to get more readers"

I look at it a bit differently that most people. Name a country that could stop Superman from entering, or detain him if he's there.
 

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well, putting real world things into the strip and one guy commented that they had Spiderman endorse obama... It's getting fucking ridiculous.
 

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iLikeHippos said:
There's 360 million people living in the US. Some of them are bound to be idiots, and those are bound to comment on Fox News.

I hope that comes through to most people, but most importantly, to the writers. Ignore those putrid insults.
just some of them? ;)

Edit: i dont mean they all are i even have relatives born and bred in the US (Seattle to be exact)
but like most countries probably 1/4-1/3 are idiots. seems more sometimes cos its mainly idiots that get into the media as they are more entertaining than well adjusted sensible people
 

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Zero=Interrupt said:
Alon Shechter said:
Yeah, and I bet me even DARING to STEP on non-american soil makes me a Nazi America-hating bastard.
I gave up on American people's intelligence when they, the descendants of immigrants that built this nation, refuse to let immigrants in because they are "stealing our jobs".
First off, America was built by colonists; there's a big difference.

America "lets in" thousands of immigrants legally through the immigration process. My parents came here in the '60's, got green cards, socials, the whole nine yards, and got their citizenship normally. They didn't sneak in, sponge off the system, refuse to learn the language and culture just to make a few bucks, which is what the illegals do. They're not immigrants, they're criminals intent on sponging off the system and making a buck. What they do basically pisses on the hard work of people who come here with nothing but the shirts on their backs and go through the long, painful system legally. Your country sucks? I feel for you, I really do, but that's no reason to start your stay off here the wrong way. We have a system and it works (mostly in a creaky, unsatisfactory, not 100% way, but it works)

Please, educate yourself. Go talk to someone who came here legally and see what they went through and why.

That said, this isn't about that. It's about sales.

This is just another stupid bullshit attempt to boost flagging readership with controversy. (see Dragon Age and their "sex scandal", another sales ploy) Superman's invincible, wins every fight all the time, and that gets boring after 900 fucking issues. Next time sales take a nose-dive, they'll have him turn gay, which will piss more people off, or kill Lois, or any number of a dozen other appalling things to make people buy a copy of their book. It's a bullshit sales ploy.

There's nothing wrong with Superman being an American and standing for "the American Way" just like there's nothing wrong with Doctor Who being fundamentally British or Kaneda being Japanese. They're that way because that's the way they are, and you know what? Their stories are successful and entertaining (mostly). When fucking idiot hack writers change things up just to make a buck, or to go along with their own political leanings, WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO GET SCREWED. Go see Hollywood's fucked up version of Akira when it comes out and tell me how much you love it . Akira's a Japanese story, with Japanese characters and very Japanese themes. It won't work when set in America, France, or anywhere else for that reason. That's not racism, that's just the way things are.

Ever seen Nightwatch or its sequels? Very, very Russian. Would not work if set in, say LA. Fun fact: the rest of the world doesn't live in and couldn't give a shit about LA, so stop setting things there. Ditto New York.

Hey, DC comics writer. Your book sucks because your writing sucks. Come up with something that doesn't involve the main character dying for shock value, becoming gay for shock value, or fighting/becoming zombies. Come up with a story that has a point to it. Something entertaining that we'd want to read.

This is a cheap grab for attention, and it's vacuous bullshit that has nothing to do with the how and the why of Superman. You might as well "reboot" the series with Clark Kent being an out-of-work alcoholic tax cheat hiding from the IRS in Sheboygan.
What he said... Great post.
 

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it makes sense though, remove superman from America and make him global, then every thing has to become global because the problems in the world are to big for one country
 

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Irridium said:
So Superman doesn't have a US citizenship anymore?

So what?
This is pretty much what I was thinking.
Seem some idiots think that it is anti-american political propaganda. But it's a comic.
 

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All I have to say is, you go, dude. Has the guts to embrace the world as a community of brothers and sisters instead of opposing nations being "forced to tolerate" each other by liberals, hippies, tree-huggers, and whomever else supernationalists can drudge up to be their scapegoat. Can my citizenship be listed as Earthling?