Suspected PAX Breach Code Thief Goes Fugitive

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Suspected PAX Breach Code Thief Goes Fugitive



The 20-year-old man accused of trying to steal code for Atomic Games' Breach from the PAX East show floor failed to show up for arraignment in court - and a warrant has gone out for his arrest.

Okay, everybody, let's play "Bad Idea, Worse Idea!"

Bad Idea: Trying to steal the code for a game [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99537-Gamer-Tries-to-Steal-Breach-Code-at-PAX-East-Gets-Arrested] from a busy show floor at a crowded industry show, having earlier admitted to pirating Forza 3 and being banned from Xbox Live because of it.

Worse Idea: Failing to show up to your court date for arraignment for the felony you've been accused of above.

That's what 20-year-old Justin D. May did, Suffolk County District Attorney press secretary Jake Wark told Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/5505341/suspected-game-code-thief-on-the-lam]. For whatever reason, May missed his court date after posting a $200 bail, and a warrant has been issued for his arrest.

Look, I certainly understand why a 20-year-old would be afraid to go into court after something like this, to face charges of larceny over $250 and buying, selling or receiving stolen trade secrets. That's scary stuff - the first charge carries prison time of up to five years or a $25,000 fine, and the second could earn you prison time of up to five years or a $500 fine and two years in the house of corrections. Anyone would be intimidated of going in to face something like that, guilty or no.

But that doesn't mean that you don't get to go. Maybe he's used to flagrantly defying the law for years and never getting punished as a software pirate. Maybe he didn't think they'd find him (he's probably played GTA of course, all he needs is to respray his car and a change of clothes and he's good)! Either way, this really doesn't make him look good. In fact, this just makes him look really, really guilty. And really, really stupid.

While he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, in the court of my mind? Well, let's just say I'm going to be referring to Mr. May as Guilty von Dumbass from here on out.

Update: Joystiq has his gamertag, and has noted that wherever he is, he's playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/30/breach-thief-jumps-bail-currently-playing-modern-warfare-2/]. Well done, Guilty von Dumbass. Well done. What, you couldn't wait until after your court date to download the Stimulus Package?

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Not sure he could be any dumber. And he likely killed any chance that he was innocent of any of the charges, unless hes somehow completely unable to move at home...

Now placing bets that when he is caught, he comes up with a stupid escape idea, or claims that he never tried to skip the court date.
 

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Breakin' the law, breakin' the law! Breakin' the law, breakin' the law!

...sorry, couldn't help it. How deep of a grave you think this kid can dig himself in to? He's already gotten this far, how much further could he possibly go?
 
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Would an innocent man flee?

I know its scary, but if you really didn't do anything bad, they you have nothing to worry about.

I'm gonna call it, guilty.
 

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As evident by John Funks previous article where the following happened;

But oh wait, it gets even better: The very same suspect was at a panel earlier at PAX East with Stephen Toulouse, director of policy and enforcement for Xbox Live, during which he asked if he could please have his Gamertag unbanned from the service. When asked why he'd been banned, the alleged thief said that he'd played Forza 3 early - and as it turned out, it had been an illegally downloaded copy of the game, too.
This guys is just plain ignorant, how can you even go through life like that?.
 

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I agree with the sentiments in this article. The kid probably freaked out when he realized that shit was about to get real, and made a very, very stupid decision. Not that I'm trying to garner any sympathy for the block-headed pirate.
 

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The evidence is incontrovertible! This case undeniably proves that pirating and playing video games will make your kids criminals!
 

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Well, serves him right.
I really hope that the judges don't go easy on the guy.
Also, I really want Breach to succeed and occurances such as these may discourage some developers from showing their products on exhibitions.
This guy is truly a jackass.
 

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Tempest Fox said:
Breakin' the law, breakin' the law! Breakin' the law, breakin' the law!

...sorry, couldn't help it. How deep of a grave you think this kid can dig himself in to? He's already gotten this far, how much further could he possibly go?
Oh, there's plenty deeper to dig from here. He could buy (or steal) a gun, use it to jack a car, get caught in a high-speed car chase, crash and start a police shootout, and finally put a bullet in his own head. I'd say that's about the point where you hit rock bottom.
 

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Guilty or innocent is not what interests me, that's for the court to decide. The question is how smart is it to run like this? Since it's not a major crime I doubt the authorities will go to great lenghts to track him down and if he's got a secluded basement in a dark corner of a large city to hide in, I can see him eluding capture.

What I'd like to know is how does he plan to live a remotely normal life with an arrest warrant hanging over his head? Any job he applies to will blow his cover and get him busted. Also, how long before statute of limitations hits on this? I'm guessing several years at least. So he basically has to stay off the grid for several years to get off the hook at this point.

I wish him the best of luck, but I have serious doubts as to his chances. He's a 20-year old trying to steal a computer game. I'm guessing he's not the type to pack up and go into the woods or blend into the dark underbelly of a metropolis...
 

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Hmmm, not sure if he's a a thief or just a twit from reading this and the previous article. Will be interesting if we ever hear about it being sorted properly.

Breach... I wonder if it's going to be a remake of the old "Breach" tactical games from many years ago? which I personally believe inspired the "X-Com" series.
 

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LTK_70 said:
Oh, there's plenty deeper to dig from here. He could buy (or steal) a gun, use it to jack a car, get caught in a high-speed car chase, crash and start a police shootout, and finally put a bullet in his own head. I'd say that's about the point where you hit rock bottom.
Point taken, though I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that. Still, with how this guy's acted, it wouldn't come as a shock if he did. I really do hope it doesn't come down to that.
 

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I have no sympathy for the kid, but, c'mon, a FELONY LARCENY conviction? Those never go away, they're the scarlet letter of modern times. For a game? Gimme a break.
 

John Funk

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Way to go brutha

fight the powers that be...

seriously, way to go bucko.
 

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Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt because being tagged as "pirate" by the big corporations is a certain way of getting convicted for anything the corporate lawyers can be bothered to write down? I wouldn't blame him.

And this ridiculous one sided reporting on everything surrounding piracy has to stop. It is a highly debated issue and trying to pass off your opinion about it as a fact only makes you look like bigots.
 

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No words for this. Utterly stupid on this guys part.
Seriously. I hope they catch him and show him the full extent of the law! God nows he deserves none less!
 
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Asehujiko said:
Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt because being tagged as "pirate" by the big corporations is a certain way of getting convicted for anything the corporate lawyers can be bothered to write down? I wouldn't blame him.

And this ridiculous one sided reporting on everything surrounding piracy has to stop. It is a highly debated issue and trying to pass off your opinion about it as a fact only makes you look like bigots.
True, but considering he did basically steal Forza 3 just because he wanted to "play it early with friends" doesn't exactly help his case.

Wait, did I just contradict myself? Crap...

But still, he stole, whether it was Forza 3 or this, and stealing is a crime.
 

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Asehujiko said:
Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt because being tagged as "pirate" by the big corporations is a certain way of getting convicted for anything the corporate lawyers can be bothered to write down? I wouldn't blame him.

And this ridiculous one sided reporting on everything surrounding piracy has to stop. It is a highly debated issue and trying to pass off your opinion about it as a fact only makes you look like bigots.
We have an adamant anti-piracy stance here at The Escapist and make no apologies for it. How is being against crime in any way bigotry? Pirates are jerks, end of story*.

Besides, whether or not he's a pirate has nothing to do with him being an actual thief (allegedly) and a dumbass.

*I realize that there are some countries where piracy is pretty much the default option because the "legitimate" route is either tremendously infeasible or literally impossible. This is the only real "gray area" as far as I'm concerned. Yes, copyright law is extremely problematic, but that does not for a moment excuse the theft of something that people spent years of their life working on.
 

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When your banned from Xbox live, is that just being excluded from multiplayer?

Just wondering how they're tracking his gamertag if he's banned.
 

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What the...so instead of facing the possibility of a suspended sentence or probation, possibly even no charges at all (because seeing him and hearing him attempt to pull the game code is one thing, proving is another), he now faces a definite charge of attempted escape from custody.

Kid obviously has issues if he had to get away because of DLC for a game, methinks some rehab is in order, although he may get that being in jail at this rate.
 

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Calumon: Time to bring in THE DAWG!*

-snip'd-

Imagine this in Calumon's Voice. It is quite funny! Here is Calumon doing something for those of you who don't know what Calumon sounds like.
urge......to..kill...cute things.....rising....


all kidding aside, ATTENTION PIRATE SUPPORTERS: This guy is a dumbass, not only admitting he pirated a game, but then asked to get UNBANNED from XBL because he was playing a pirated game. ADD in the fact he tried to steal a games code at a convention and I think we have a candidate for Idiot of the Year.

seriously, I dont see how people can rationalize stealing games. even 'I just wanted to play it early with friends' line makes me want to punch him. you would think if you actually liked a game, you would support the developer and BUY the game so they have income to possibly make a sequel or extra content.
 

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There is but one thing I can show to perfectly illustrate my feelings on this matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ&feature=related
 

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As evident by John Funks previous article where the following happened;

But oh wait, it gets even better: The very same suspect was at a panel earlier at PAX East with Stephen Toulouse, director of policy and enforcement for Xbox Live, during which he asked if he could please have his Gamertag unbanned from the service. When asked why he'd been banned, the alleged thief said that he'd played Forza 3 early - and as it turned out, it had been an illegally downloaded copy of the game, too.
So, uh...I'm guessing that was a "no" on that request there?

I see two likely reasons for the bail-jumping:

1 - he's guilty and thinks he's better off on the run and/or doesn't understand the full consequences of his actions - he just doesn't realize how deep he's digging that hole.

2 - he completely forgot to show up. Unrealistic to think so? Maybe, but I know I've forgotten a lot of important things for no good reason.

...but I'm still betting it's not #2.

Edit: bonus contender #3 - innocent but too scared to show up anyway. Stranger things have happened.
 

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There is but one thing I can show to perfectly illustrate my feelings on this matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ&feature=related
It's not so much that the law won, it's only that Hackerman lost. Completely, utterly, and spectacularly.
 

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Asehujiko said:
Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt
Which is pretty much proven? I mean, you don't get much guiltier than

A) Having part of the game downloaded on your laptop
B) Having non-company eyewitnesses that say they saw you running cables between your laptop and the machine the game was on
C) Fleeing the scene when confronted and last, but certainly not the least (or most stupid)
D) Attempting to bribe the cops to let you go. Oh, and the not-showing-up-for-court thing probably wasn't the brightest thing either.

Sure, the company lawyers would probably take him to the cleaners, but them's the breaks when you try to steal shit from huge companies.

This dude says that he was only going to play the game (and let his friends try it out), but how do you know that he's not going to do the Mario [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.174175-Nintendo-Pirate-Settles-Dispute-for-1-5-Million] and seed it to kingdom come? Because that, like it or not, was probably his intention.
 

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John Funk said:
How is being against crime in any way bigotry?
Because Legality=/=Instinctual Morality. With enough money, you can get anything criminalized. If I were to throw a couple of billions at the government of whatever country you live in to make staircases illegal, could I count on the escapist to provide a bunch of extremely biased pro-elevator articles without mentioning anywhere that they are pro-elevator unless somebody calls you out on it the comments? Of course not, that would be silly and so is this. Big media corporations have money in spades and repeatedly used it to push through laws that don't protect anybody except said corporations(and not the artists themselves) and if that fails, they bribe judges to convict people anyway. For example, the Pirate Bay trial. They were convicted for breaking a law that hadn't even passed(and it still hasn't). A law (still) being lobbied for almost exclusively by the same group that represented their "victims" in court, collected the monetary reparations on their behalf, provided the prosecutor, the judge that convicted them and the judge that denied their request for an investigation into the first judge about a possible conflict of interest. If you are pro law, media companies do not deserve your support.

Being a bigot is not having an opinion on the subject, being a bigot is having an opinion on the subject and passing it off as an absolute truth.
 

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Asehujiko said:
John Funk said:
How is being against crime in any way bigotry?
Because Legality=/=Instinctual Morality. With enough money, you can get anything criminalized. If I were to throw a couple of billions at the government of whatever country you live in to make staircases illegal, could I count on the escapist to provide a bunch of extremely biased pro-elevator articles without mentioning anywhere that they are pro-elevator unless somebody calls you out on it the comments? Of course not, that would be silly and so is this. Big media corporations have money in spades and repeatedly used it to push through laws that don't protect anybody except said corporations(and not the artists themselves) and if that fails, they bribe judges to convict people anyway. For example, the Pirate Bay trial. They were convicted for breaking a law that hadn't even passed(and it still hasn't). A law (still) being lobbied for almost exclusively by the same group that represented their "victims" in court, collected the monetary reparations on their behalf, provided the prosecutor, the judge that convicted them and the judge that denied their request for an investigation into the first judge about a possible conflict of interest. If you are pro law, media companies do not deserve your support.

Being a bigot is not having an opinion on the subject, being a bigot is having an opinion on the subject and passing it off as an absolute truth.
I'm not going to disagree with you that copyright law is a horrendous mess right now, and that people getting sued for millions of dollars for downloading a song or two is messed up.

But regardless of whether or not the punishments are way out of proportion to the crimes (they are) or whether or not copyright law is seriously messed up (it is), that doesn't change the fact that piracy itself is morally wrong. You are taking something that people spent months if not years working on to create, and you are being a leech. You are taking peoples' hard work for free; and that is utterly and completely indefensible unless, as I mentioned before, you live in a country where it's otherwise impractical.

With very, very, very few exceptions, pirates are scum. This doesn't mean we agree with what's being done to curb piracy like draconian DRM or ridiculous legislation (have you seen our articles on the subject, ffs?) it just means that we vehemently disagree with piracy. This isn't a binary switch, dude. "If you hate piracy, this means you're 100% on board with what's being done to stop it." That's just a fallacy.

And our editorial stances on things is publicly available, dude [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/positions]. Don't say that we don't mention it anywhere if you don't look.
 

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Asehujiko said:
John Funk said:
How is being against crime in any way bigotry?
Because Legality=/=Instinctual Morality. With enough money, you can get anything criminalized. If I were to throw a couple of billions at the government of whatever country you live in to make staircases illegal, could I count on the escapist to provide a bunch of extremely biased pro-elevator articles without mentioning anywhere that they are pro-elevator unless somebody calls you out on it the comments? Of course not, that would be silly and so is this. Big media corporations have money in spades and repeatedly used it to push through laws that don't protect anybody except said corporations(and not the artists themselves) and if that fails, they bribe judges to convict people anyway. For example, the Pirate Bay trial. They were convicted for breaking a law that hadn't even passed(and it still hasn't). A law (still) being lobbied for almost exclusively by the same group that represented their "victims" in court, collected the monetary reparations on their behalf, provided the prosecutor, the judge that convicted them and the judge that denied their request for an investigation into the first judge about a possible conflict of interest. If you are pro law, media companies do not deserve your support.

Being a bigot is not having an opinion on the subject, being a bigot is having an opinion on the subject and passing it off as an absolute truth.
You can't possibly be defending this guy's actions. You can't possibly be saying he was in any way, in the right to be stealing code from the show floor. You just can't be.
 

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You can't possibly be defending this guy's actions. You can't possibly be saying he was in any way, in the right to be stealing code from the show floor. You just can't be.
To be fair to Asehujiko I think he see's parralel's between what happened at PAX and whats happened to The Pirate Bay, clearly he's pro TPB.

The huge corporations he's talking about is the Music Industry with regards to TPB, not Atomic Games tackling defenseless nerds.

Basically he's using that case in this argument, which is wrong, but hey.

*shrugs shoulders*

Edit;
Update from Joystiq, they've messaged him on Xbox Live.
Update 2: Added details about prison terms and fines. The person using May's Gamertag signed off after we contacted them.
Now it might hit him that he's only making it worse for himself.
 

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John Funk said:
Asehujiko said:
Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt because being tagged as "pirate" by the big corporations is a certain way of getting convicted for anything the corporate lawyers can be bothered to write down? I wouldn't blame him.

And this ridiculous one sided reporting on everything surrounding piracy has to stop. It is a highly debated issue and trying to pass off your opinion about it as a fact only makes you look like bigots.
We have an adamant anti-piracy stance here at The Escapist and make no apologies for it. How is being against crime in any way bigotry? Pirates are jerks, end of story.
Huh. That's fairly ignorant of yourself as well. Yes, you mentioned that countries that have funny copyright issues, but what about Old games? Is anyone who decides to get an Emulator for the Snes to play a Mario game a jerk as well?

*mumbles off about broad generalizations and how the piss this user off*
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This guy is an idiot. First off, he was stealing a game that otherwise it appears he would have liked to buy, and it's not for demo purposes as HE HAS THE GAME RIGHT THERE, right in front of his face to be played. That annoys me heavily. He should man up, and account for his damn actions.
 

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Now they'll just show up at his house...

"STOP! You've violated the law!" Yeah I bet the dude thinks that it's not a big deal. He's in for an unpleasant suprise.

And as for the whole piracy issue going on? I'm with Funk. Piracy is not good. The thing we should argue is how to fight it.

**I've heard rumor that he's willing to rat out some of his friends that are also in the same boat he is with pirating. Anyone else hear about that?
 

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Really playing Modern Warfare 2? Bad Company 2 is were it is at.

[/Jokes]

Anyway that is pretty funny. Idiotic thing to do though.
 

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Doc Incognito said:
Blimey said:
There is but one thing I can show to perfectly illustrate my feelings on this matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ&feature=related
It's not so much that the law won, it's only that Hackerman lost. Completely, utterly, and spectacularly.
Yeah, but just bear with me. I've been waiting to use that song for awhile now....
 

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scotth266 said:
Asehujiko said:
Irridium said:
Would an innocent man flee?
From a case that he's going to loose regardless of his actual guilt
Which is pretty much proven? I mean, you don't get much guiltier than

A) Having part of the game downloaded on your laptop
B) Having non-company eyewitnesses that say they saw you running cables between your laptop and the machine the game was on
C) Fleeing the scene when confronted and last, but certainly not the least (or most stupid)
D) Attempting to bribe the cops to let you go. Oh, and the not-showing-up-for-court thing probably wasn't the brightest thing either.

Sure, the company lawyers would probably take him to the cleaners, but them's the breaks when you try to steal shit from huge companies.

This dude says that he was only going to play the game (and let his friends try it out), but how do you know that he's not going to do the Mario [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.174175-Nintendo-Pirate-Settles-Dispute-for-1-5-Million] and seed it to kingdom come? Because that, like it or not, was probably his intention.
Where does it say that he attempted to bribe cops? I failed to read that tidbit as of yet.





Personally, I believe that the idiot lives in some small world where, by playing on a computer or game system, he is invulnerable to the real world and any consequences for his actions. Such a mentality exists everywhere online. The fact that the police arrested him and he is charged for some serious crimes that he may or may not have committed probably has gone over his head to the point that he fully intended to 'wake up and pretend it never happened' the next day. Go to court? It would be far easier to escape into video games.
 

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Quaidis said:
Personally, I believe that the idiot lives in some small world where, by playing on a computer or game system, he is invulnerable to the real world and any consequences for his actions.
I'm sure he understands the consequences and is out there right now trying to find a place to get his car repainted so the cops will stop chasing after him.

(I'm sorry, I had to.)

Personally I think this kid's one of those ones you meet who never really grew up and hasn't been in Real Trouble before and has panicked. Granted, running is absolutely the worst and most moronic thing to do, but about what I'd expect someone with, say, a 10 year old's outlook on the world to do. He'll be found and go to court and we'll get our first good look at him and I'm willing to bet the expression on his face will be ready-made for a WTF? image macro. Assuming he's not crying.

But at this point this is all conjecture. Beyond the accusation and the fact that he ran, everything's rumor. I'm waiting - and morbidly curious - to see what happens next before I get out my big "IDIOT" stamp and smack him on the forehead.
 

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He'll be found and go to court and we'll get our first good look at him and I'm willing to bet the expression on his face will be ready-made for a WTF? image macro. Assuming he's not crying.
Personally? My money's on crying.

Or, if he's incredibly stupid - as in far more than any of us may already think he is - smiling in an "Orly?" fashion, as if it's a joke.
 

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John Funk said:
Update: Joystiq has his gamertag, and has noted that wherever he is, he's playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/30/breach-thief-jumps-bail-currently-playing-modern-warfare-2/]. Well done, Guilty von Dumbass. Well done. What, you couldn't wait until after your court date to download the Stimulus Package?
Ah man, I'm so worn out from running from the law. Time to sit back and play some COD!
 

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Shjade said:
Formica Archonis said:
He'll be found and go to court and we'll get our first good look at him and I'm willing to bet the expression on his face will be ready-made for a WTF? image macro. Assuming he's not crying.
Personally? My money's on crying.
Or, if he's incredibly stupid - as in far more than any of us may already think he is - smiling in an "Orly?" fashion, as if it's a joke.
Given that the up-to-the-second current gossip is that he's currently online and playing Call of Duty, I think "incredibly stupid" just picked up a few more votes.:/ I hold out hope that it's a big mistake and that it's not him. No one could possibly be stupid enough to go online with their own ID while wanted by the cops. Especially not when wanted for theft from a game developer, resulting in a far more techno-savvy maligned party and news media than most white-collar crimes. I'd be like stealing the Mona Lisa and then trying to get it listed at an art auction under your own name.

I hope no one's that stupid.

I hope.

Good Lord, I hope....

If I hope any harder I'm gonna break something.
 

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Where does it say that he attempted to bribe cops? I failed to read that tidbit as of yet.
Personally, I believe that the idiot lives in some small world where, by playing on a computer or game system, he is invulnerable to the real world and any consequences for his actions. Such a mentality exists everywhere online. The fact that the police arrested him and he is charged for some serious crimes that he may or may not have committed probably has gone over his head to the point that he fully intended to 'wake up and pretend it never happened' the next day. Go to court? It would be far easier to escape into video games.
That mentality has been around long before the computer came about. Used to be people thought it didn't matter if you didn't live in the jurisdiction, or if the person offended was of a different economic or ethnic class than the offender.
I know I wished a couple times a speeding ticket would go away when I woke up the next day, but they never did and I paid them.
Susan Arendt said:
You can't possibly be defending this guy's actions. You can't possibly be saying he was in any way, in the right to be stealing code from the show floor. You just can't be.
I stand with you, Susan, on this, and find it quite appalling that someone would eagerly step to the defense of this loser and even accuse Escapists of bigotry. I do find it rather comforting that he is the only one to say so in this thread up to now. But still disturbing.
 

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People, people, this isn't a discussion about piracy. It's a discussion about THIS GUY'S act of piracy.

He didn't download some long vaporware game. He pirated and stole unreleased source code.

The big picture is irrelevant here. What IS relevant is that he broke the law and is now a fugitive, and is apparently quite the idiot.
 

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I stand with you, Susan, on this, and find it quite appalling that someone would eagerly step to the defense of this loser
Now now, everyone, according to our legal system, deserves some kind of defense. In court, at least. Maybe not on public forums.

@Formica: that's not up for debate - there are people that stupid. It simply remains to be seen whether this particular guy is that stupid.
 

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Shjade said:
samsonguy920 said:
I stand with you, Susan, on this, and find it quite appalling that someone would eagerly step to the defense of this loser
Now now, everyone, according to our legal system, deserves some kind of defense. In court, at least. Maybe not on public forums.

@Formica: that's not up for debate - there are people that stupid. It simply remains to be seen whether this particular guy is that stupid.
Okay I will rephrase: I find it appalling that someone would eagerly and selfrighteously step to the defense of the actions that this stupid moron was alleged to have done, and then allege worse actions back upon The Escapist.

[sub]I'm reminded of cases where a burglar sued a homeowner for damages when the moron hurt themself during the act of burglarizing the owner's house.[/sub]
 

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Tempest Fox said:
Breakin' the law, breakin' the law! Breakin' the law, breakin' the law!

...sorry, couldn't help it. How deep of a grave you think this kid can dig himself in to? He's already gotten this far, how much further could he possibly go?
Oh, there's plenty deeper to dig from here. He could buy (or steal) a gun, use it to jack a car, get caught in a high-speed car chase, crash and start a police shootout, and finally put a bullet in his own head. I'd say that's about the point where you hit rock bottom.
And, just before he dies, he realises that he's in a rat faeces processing plant (I have no idea if they exist, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised). He falls into a vat but is still resuscitated in the ambulance that is sent to get him, which he tries to hijack in a frenzied terror (and no doubt influenced by the fact that he has rat faeces in a bullet hole leading to his brain), crashing it into a senior citizen's nudist beach. He holes up here until the cops come and, after another shootout, he's put in prison and makes friends with an eight foot shaved monkey called Bubba.

It can always get worse ;)

OT - Yeah, this guy is a fool. And I've seen some A-grade fools in my time. I think this guy is worse than one of my roommates who decided he'd rather go clubbing than attend his uni exam resits, and that's pretty fucking foolish.
 

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Congratulations, You win the Dumbass award.

You would think someone who goes to steal a computer code would have more knowledge of these things and generally avoid being detected by the internet.

Kinda reminds me of the story of the guy who stalked the guy who stole his iPhone the other day.
 

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Now they'll just show up at his house...

"STOP! You've violated the law!" Yeah I bet the dude thinks that it's not a big deal. He's in for an unpleasant suprise.

And as for the whole piracy issue going on? I'm with Funk. Piracy is not good. The thing we should argue is how to fight it.

**I've heard rumor that he's willing to rat out some of his friends that are also in the same boat he is with pirating. Anyone else hear about that?
Holy fuck those cops would be my hero's forever if they caught him and said the whole line, bonus points if they do it while fully clad in armor, but what if he resists arrest? Hmmm if he's successfully sneaking there's no way we'll eve convict him.

Any way I hope this guy win's a Darwin Award.
 

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Quaidis said:
Where does it say that he attempted to bribe cops? I failed to read that tidbit as of yet.
It's in the "told Kotaku" link.
 

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Calumon: Time to bring in THE DAWG!*

-snip-
Now imagine this song playing, and we have a sick-ass montage.

They're coming after you, pirate. Bob Seger, and the law.

I look forward to seeing the results of such events. Should be quite interesting.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
You can't possibly be defending this guy's actions. You can't possibly be saying he was in any way, in the right to be stealing code from the show floor. You just can't be.
Why not? People try to rationalize theft all the time in its digital form, why not try to rationalize it in physical form? It seems like a logical next step.

Though! He's still technically innocent until he has his day in cou... Oh, wait.
 

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Wow, this is just really amazing to how stupid people can get. Bet the next thing that's going to happen is that police are going to find where he's play COD, "try" to arrest him, but he successfully flees from police, only to come back to his Xbox360 the same day and play more COD, and then the cops will finally arrest him because they noticed his tag was up on live.

I know this guy deserves a defense, and their are those that sympathize with the remote possibility that there was no malcontent with his Ethernet cable, but either way this story will not get another serious follow through for weeks if not months because of his possible defense. If a defense lawyer finds out absolutely that he didn't take any code, "intention" to steal doesn't matter, if there is no concrete proof on his laptop of the crime, then they could spend months with a cheap lawyer constantly arguing that it's all circumstantial without real hard evidence to back up the claims.
For all we know he could walk Scott free because their was no proof. Well Scott free on the stealing charges. I think the lesson here is very simple, "If you really like something, DON'T whip it (your Ethernet cable) out, good things come in time."
 

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Wow... and just when you thought this guy couldn't have been more stupid... he apparently tried to BRIBE the police XD

"Witnesses tell Kotaku that May admitted to trying to steal the files and then tried to bribe a police officer with $100." Source: http://kotaku.com/5507399/suspected-game-code-thief-surrenders-to-authorites

And chances are he skipped bail...because mommy and daddy didn't know he'd been arrested.