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I don't see how the Switch's third party support is any better than the Wii U's. It's not getting the big games, like CoD, Madden, KHIII, and RDR2. I don't see how getting a bunch of last gen ports and indie games that nobody but hipsters care about means the Switch has better third party support.
 

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It is very much lacking, but that is mostly because the console is underpowered in order to suit a mobile friendly trade-off.

It did get Doom and Wolfenstein though.

But other than last gen ports and indies, yeah I agree, the Switch isn't a fantastic must have system unless you REALLY want just a Nintendo IP system. Which is fine, my DS was never anything more than a Pokemon device anyway and the Switch will be the same thing.
 

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CritialGaming said:
It is very much lacking, but that is mostly because the console is underpowered in order to suit a mobile friendly trade-off.

It did get Doom and Wolfenstein though.

But other than last gen ports and indies, yeah I agree, the Switch isn't a fantastic must have system unless you REALLY want just a Nintendo IP system. Which is fine, my DS was never anything more than a Pokemon device anyway and the Switch will be the same thing.
Why can't Nintendo just make a powerful console?
 

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VG_Addict said:
CritialGaming said:
It is very much lacking, but that is mostly because the console is underpowered in order to suit a mobile friendly trade-off.

It did get Doom and Wolfenstein though.

But other than last gen ports and indies, yeah I agree, the Switch isn't a fantastic must have system unless you REALLY want just a Nintendo IP system. Which is fine, my DS was never anything more than a Pokemon device anyway and the Switch will be the same thing.
Why can't Nintendo just make a powerful console?
They don't need to, they've got a comfortable niche in the market and get reliable sales of consoles and software due to their loyal fanbase and reputation for established quality products.
 

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VG_Addict said:
CritialGaming said:
It is very much lacking, but that is mostly because the console is underpowered in order to suit a mobile friendly trade-off.

It did get Doom and Wolfenstein though.

But other than last gen ports and indies, yeah I agree, the Switch isn't a fantastic must have system unless you REALLY want just a Nintendo IP system. Which is fine, my DS was never anything more than a Pokemon device anyway and the Switch will be the same thing.
Why can't Nintendo just make a powerful console?
I dont think they want too. Nintendo isn't trying to make a universal entertainment system. Nintendo is making a toy, and they want to keep it that way. They aren't out to compete with Sony or Microsoft, even though they operate in the same sort of space. Nintendo has it's own market and they are happy with it. The 3rd party support is required for them to grow in the crow gamer base, but they do not need to do it to appeal to all the kids that just want a nintendo. Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
 

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Whoa, Déjà vu! I'm pretty sure we already had a thread like this several weeks ago. Anyways, the amount of games that Square-Enix has published on the Switch is really different. If you restrict third-party support to only big games, of course you won't see difference; but that's on you.
 

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VG_Addict said:
Why can't Nintendo just make a powerful console?
Because it's pointless. We've reached diminishing returns in power and it has been stressed time and TIME AGAIN, power is secondary to actual design and craftsmanship.
 

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VG_Addict said:
I don't see how the Switch's third party support is any better than the Wii U's. It's not getting the big games, like CoD, Madden, KHIII, and RDR2. I don't see how getting a bunch of last gen ports and indie games that nobody but hipsters care about means the Switch has better third party support.
I'm guessing its because by and large they don't care.
 

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CaitSeith said:
Whoa, Déjà vu! I'm pretty sure we already had a thread like this several weeks ago. Anyways, the amount of games that Square-Enix has published on the Switch is really different. If you restrict third-party support to only big games, of course you won't see difference; but that's on you.
Aiddon said:
VG_Addict said:
Why can't Nintendo just make a powerful console?
Because it's pointless. We've reached diminishing returns in power and it has been stressed time and TIME AGAIN, power is secondary to actual design and craftsmanship.
All of this I agree with. And Critical Gaming, didn't you already do a thread or heavily take part in this like 7 or 8 months ago?

The Switch is better off without Madden or COD. Gives all the more unique and niche games a chance to shine. Plus, I despise both of the mentioned franchises so much. The Switch has plenty of options, you are not interested or don't bother to invest in them.
 

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Meh, I'm content with the support the Switch gets. That other people aren't is honestly not my concern. If they want CoD, Madden or whatnot, they should get a platform that does get those. Problem solved. Tho I suspect those people actually want the best, or rather, all of both worlds. Unfortunately, that is clearly not happening any time soon.

In that case, my suggestion would be to approach the issue like an adult, decide for themselves whichever is the greatest priority, and purchase based on that.
 

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VG_Addict said:
I don't see how getting a bunch of last gen ports and indie games that nobody but hipsters care about means the Switch has better third party support.
Wut? Are you relegating the behemoth that is the indie scene to just a hipster fad? You do know these games sell stupid good, right? Combining the ridiculous amount and variety of indie games with a handheld system is probably the best decision Nintendo made with the Switch.
 

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All of this I agree with. And Critical Gaming, didn't you already do a thread or heavily take part in this like 7 or 8 months ago?
This topic has popped up a few times. And I've said the same shit in each one. Sometimes people need to be reminded of things :).
 

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The Switch has its main selling point being on the go and its high quality first party games. If you want raw power, you'd have a gaming PC. (I have both, best of both worlds)

Also, define third party. AAA third party? Yeah, it's not so good there. But inidie third party? The Switch might actually be the console where the indie scene is thriving the most outside of PC. Fuck, some indie games actually sell BETTER on the Switch than the PC. Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon had most of its units be played on the Switch, and Stardew Valley basically lives in the top 10 best selling on the e-shop.

CritialGaming said:
Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
...

So, who wants to tell him?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fortnite-switch/
 

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erttheking said:
The Switch has its main selling point being on the go and its high quality first party games. If you want raw power, you'd have a gaming PC. (I have both, best of both worlds)

Also, define third party. AAA third party? Yeah, it's not so good there. But inidie third party? The Switch might actually be the console where the indie scene is thriving the most outside of PC. Fuck, some indie games actually sell BETTER on the Switch than the PC. Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon had most of its units be played on the Switch, and Stardew Valley basically lives in the top 10 best selling on the e-shop.

CritialGaming said:
Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
...

So, who wants to tell him?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fortnite-switch/
Sometimes I think he forces himself to be that oblivious. He knows, he just doesn't want to admit it.
 

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Sometimes I think he forces himself to be that oblivious. He knows, he just doesn't want to admit it.
Actually I legit didn't know Fortnite was on the Switch. But the point still kind stands because isn't the voice chat a complete pain in the ass disaster on Switch? The idea was that kids on the Switch wouldn't be playing many, if any, games in which would be filled with profanity and/or hostile player chat.

Sure some games have swearing and gore, but for the most part it's avoided and controllable on the Switch more than other consoles for parents. Additionally it lets them have something to play on at a restaurant without the cost of a tablet or phone.
 

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erttheking said:
The Switch has its main selling point being on the go and its high quality first party games. If you want raw power, you'd have a gaming PC. (I have both, best of both worlds)

Also, define third party. AAA third party? Yeah, it's not so good there. But inidie third party? The Switch might actually be the console where the indie scene is thriving the most outside of PC. Fuck, some indie games actually sell BETTER on the Switch than the PC. Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon had most of its units be played on the Switch, and Stardew Valley basically lives in the top 10 best selling on the e-shop.

CritialGaming said:
Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
...

So, who wants to tell him?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fortnite-switch/
I'm just wondering why people keep using this "kid's stuff!" insults that are straight from the "I'm horrendously insecure that games are toys" playbook. These are old, obsolete arguments used by people who don't inform themselves.
 

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CritialGaming said:
CoCage said:
Sometimes I think he forces himself to be that oblivious. He knows, he just doesn't want to admit it.
Actually I legit didn't know Fortnite was on the Switch. But the point still kind stands because isn't the voice chat a complete pain in the ass disaster on Switch? The idea was that kids on the Switch wouldn't be playing many, if any, games in which would be filled with profanity and/or hostile player chat.

Sure some games have swearing and gore, but for the most part it's avoided and controllable on the Switch more than other consoles for parents. Additionally it lets them have something to play on at a restaurant without the cost of a tablet or phone.
That didn't stop from over 10 million people downloading it. To Fortnite anyway, that does not matter.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-01-fortnite-has-been-downloaded-by-half-of-all-nintendo-switch-owners

EDIT: I was on my phone at the time. Here is a proper link.
 

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Aiddon said:
erttheking said:
The Switch has its main selling point being on the go and its high quality first party games. If you want raw power, you'd have a gaming PC. (I have both, best of both worlds)

Also, define third party. AAA third party? Yeah, it's not so good there. But inidie third party? The Switch might actually be the console where the indie scene is thriving the most outside of PC. Fuck, some indie games actually sell BETTER on the Switch than the PC. Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon had most of its units be played on the Switch, and Stardew Valley basically lives in the top 10 best selling on the e-shop.

CritialGaming said:
Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
...

So, who wants to tell him?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fortnite-switch/
I'm just wondering why people keep using this "kid's stuff!" insults that are straight from the "I'm horrendously insecure that games are toys" playbook. These are old, obsolete arguments used by people who don't inform themselves.
Because the one's generally making those arguments have literally built their sense of self-worth and identity around being a "Gamer[sup][sup]TM[/sup][/sup]". With that little making up the entirety of themselves, is it really that surprising how defensive, insecure, and elitist/gatekeeping they are?
 

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Avnger said:
Aiddon said:
erttheking said:
The Switch has its main selling point being on the go and its high quality first party games. If you want raw power, you'd have a gaming PC. (I have both, best of both worlds)

Also, define third party. AAA third party? Yeah, it's not so good there. But inidie third party? The Switch might actually be the console where the indie scene is thriving the most outside of PC. Fuck, some indie games actually sell BETTER on the Switch than the PC. Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon had most of its units be played on the Switch, and Stardew Valley basically lives in the top 10 best selling on the e-shop.

CritialGaming said:
Or to appeal to parents of 5-10 year olds who aren't willing to let their kids play Fortnite or GTA and would rather keep them into the Mario level stuff.
...

So, who wants to tell him?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fortnite-switch/
I'm just wondering why people keep using this "kid's stuff!" insults that are straight from the "I'm horrendously insecure that games are toys" playbook. These are old, obsolete arguments used by people who don't inform themselves.
Because the one's generally making those arguments have literally built their sense of self-worth and identity around being a "Gamer[sup][sup]TM[/sup][/sup]". With that little making up the entirety of themselves, is it really that surprising how defensive, insecure, and elitist/gatekeeping they are?
Where the hell do you get me calling the Switch not a "gamer" console. Or labeling it only as a kids machine. Nintendo has ALWAYS marketing towards a younger audience. I have never insulted people into the Switch or Nintendo games, nor ever labeled it as not a "real" game machine.

Stop projecting.