Obviously this kid has watched the start of The Social Network and went on to degrading the fairer sex in the most arrogant of male ways... What a Legend.
Teen Arrested for Home-Made "Hot or Not" List on Facebook
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A. It's the kid's own damn fault for attaching the survey to his name and face. These kinds of things are posted on the internet anonymously FOR A REASON.
B. He deserved to be expelled.
C. He DOESN'T deserve to be arrested. It's petty at best,and only serves to tie up police resources at worst.
D. It's understandable for the parents to desire punishment outside of expulsion, it's just that traditionally it's either supposed to be settled in the courts or outside the offender's front porch while waving a shotgun menacingly.
B. He deserved to be expelled.
C. He DOESN'T deserve to be arrested. It's petty at best,and only serves to tie up police resources at worst.
D. It's understandable for the parents to desire punishment outside of expulsion, it's just that traditionally it's either supposed to be settled in the courts or outside the offender's front porch while waving a shotgun menacingly.
I think it's stupid that this happened. Then again, he's an idiot for posting it on Facebook in the first place. Doesn't he know that while in the education system he has no rights?
Oh wait, thats how facebook started. Maybe his crime was trying to mimic Zuckerberg.cocoro67 said:
...Whatever happened to Free Speech? Also, I'd love to know under what pretence he is being arrested. The only thing I can think of is Slander and I wasn't aware that was an arrest-able offence.
In any case, Kid, you are a f****ng douche and quite frankly you deserve everything you get. If you are going to judge people like this, you keep it in your head or with your real life friends. Nobody else ever needs to know about it otherwise it comes across offensive.
[P.S. Severe lack of sleep, forgive the grammatical errors.]
In any case, Kid, you are a f****ng douche and quite frankly you deserve everything you get. If you are going to judge people like this, you keep it in your head or with your real life friends. Nobody else ever needs to know about it otherwise it comes across offensive.
[P.S. Severe lack of sleep, forgive the grammatical errors.]
As far as I'm concerned this kid is getting off light.
There are now fifty girls at a school somewhere who will have this a-hole's "joke" following them for the rest of their digital lives. posting it all over the school would just deserve expulsion, but posting it on the internet, where everything is permanent and easily accessed? jail time should be mandatory.
We're all so connected I worry no one thinks of the ramifications of it, most of us here got into the internet in its infancy, but kids going through school now and forever onward are going to have complete digital records of everything they've done, said, and even everything anyone else has said they said or did. It's a serious problem that no one seems worried about.
As for the argument I saw along the lines of, "well he probably didn't pick on the sweet nice girls" Your stupidity and insensitivity makes me very sad and very angry. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a "male" equivalent of the word "slut?" it's because in our society (as well as most societies I've looked into regarding this) being a 'promiscuous' man is celebrated, but 'promiscuous' women are condemned. and note that promiscuous is rather subjective / relative, though the "range" partner wise seems to be wider in general for men than women.
There are now fifty girls at a school somewhere who will have this a-hole's "joke" following them for the rest of their digital lives. posting it all over the school would just deserve expulsion, but posting it on the internet, where everything is permanent and easily accessed? jail time should be mandatory.
We're all so connected I worry no one thinks of the ramifications of it, most of us here got into the internet in its infancy, but kids going through school now and forever onward are going to have complete digital records of everything they've done, said, and even everything anyone else has said they said or did. It's a serious problem that no one seems worried about.
As for the argument I saw along the lines of, "well he probably didn't pick on the sweet nice girls" Your stupidity and insensitivity makes me very sad and very angry. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a "male" equivalent of the word "slut?" it's because in our society (as well as most societies I've looked into regarding this) being a 'promiscuous' man is celebrated, but 'promiscuous' women are condemned. and note that promiscuous is rather subjective / relative, though the "range" partner wise seems to be wider in general for men than women.
Yes, sort of.General_Potatoes said:
Does this mean we're getting a new facebook?
How can you be so upset over this? Jail time? For that? Saying that this nonsensical list will follow these fifty women for "the rest of their digital lives" is an absolutely insane claim to make. This is 2011, the year where you learn to put meaningless words behind you or get left behind.Xigageshi said:
While what he did was certainly wrong, I really don't think a long, drawn out investigation is necessary.
The kid should be punished for sure, but taken to court?
The kid should be punished for sure, but taken to court?
Okay. So a kid tries to troll his highschool's female population and gets hit by the law. Unsurprising.
Hilarious that one of the fathers wants additional charges tacked on. Evolution has literally hardwired him to kill any male that shows interest in his daughter. He's not the best person to be consulting.
Hilarious that one of the fathers wants additional charges tacked on. Evolution has literally hardwired him to kill any male that shows interest in his daughter. He's not the best person to be consulting.
He's not worth the punishment.
There are horrible things happening every day, a kid calling people names is not one of them.
There are horrible things happening every day, a kid calling people names is not one of them.
Although I also feel that this was not such a huge deal that should lead to an arrest, I'm glad they got to this fool before he started doing something worse. Atleast slap down these idiots before they manage to brainwash any other idiots into thinking they're right.
You sound fat and ugly. Ok--joke, but acting as if girls lack a spine is just as un-feminist as anything. "Grievous mental and emotional anguish" blah blah blah... If, as a guy, I was on a list of dudes and my physical characteristics were broken down in detail (the good and the bad) it would certainly bother me, but ultimately it wouldn't damage my ego. Here, I'll do it right now: Angular, interesting face, full lips, very large nose, skinny and athletic, slumped posture, hairy body. See? I'm not that fragile, and treating girls as if they are is just as sexist and stupid as anything this guy did. Give young women some credit for being strong.AnteGravity said:
In all seriousness, I don't condone what this kid did. It's pretty immature and kind of disgusting. However, it does NOT constitute criminal action. As others have said, nearly EVERYONE (yes that includes WOMEN) rate people all day, every day in their minds based on their sexual appeal alone. This stunt was tasteless, but people need to stop pretending this doesn't go on at schools, in the workplace, etc every fucking day in the mind and in private conversations.
I don't think the point is how much damage the list alone could have done (in regards of the arrest, not how the women feel about the list). I think where the damage comes from is that he posted it on facebook and then printed hundreds of copies of it and passed them during lunch. People can spread stupid lists around mighty fast nowadays. Had he done a list and pinned to the class wall or sharing it with a couple of his mates, he would not be in this trouble. Sharing the list widely and very publicly he could be charged of libel.
I know some, even most of you shrug this off as "I don't care what people say about me", but I really don't think you're seeing the whole picture. I personally would not want a list going around where someone has graded me extensively. If this sort of list was distributed on facebook, let alone handed around to hundreds of people, I would not be happy. It's not that I'm not confident in myself or body, I would not accept any lists going to people I know and don't know. I wouldn't want to walk somewhere and be remembered "from that list". These women will have to live with this list for a long time.
Say what you like, but if you think about it, most of you would get angry if this happened to you. I'm still not saying that he deserves jail time. But he most certainly should not get off with a mere pat on the back. The expulsion was given.
I know some, even most of you shrug this off as "I don't care what people say about me", but I really don't think you're seeing the whole picture. I personally would not want a list going around where someone has graded me extensively. If this sort of list was distributed on facebook, let alone handed around to hundreds of people, I would not be happy. It's not that I'm not confident in myself or body, I would not accept any lists going to people I know and don't know. I wouldn't want to walk somewhere and be remembered "from that list". These women will have to live with this list for a long time.
Say what you like, but if you think about it, most of you would get angry if this happened to you. I'm still not saying that he deserves jail time. But he most certainly should not get off with a mere pat on the back. The expulsion was given.
Okay, I just finished reading Illinois law. They at least have somewhat of a case for disorderly conduct and/or harassment. But I think if the ACLU got involved, which they fucking SHOULD considering their reputation of representing assholes who walk the razor's edge of the Constitution, this kid could make it.
But if the kid does walk and is acquitted of everything he's charged with, and he goes to a public school, shouldn't that mean that he can't legally be expelled?
I'm not saying the kid should get off without a scratch. Some thorough "parenting", maybe a shrink, definitely a suspension, but I think someone's First Amendment rights easily trump someone's "right to privacy" or "right to be left alone". I'm sure this kid had many sources for his material and I'm sure they all originate from his nympho classmates negating that privacy right and blabbing about their recent lay to their friends.
In short, every school body has malicious rumors about their classmates. This kid just collected, categorized, and distributed them. If this sounds eerily like ANY tabloid journal, that's because it is. Acquit.
But if the kid does walk and is acquitted of everything he's charged with, and he goes to a public school, shouldn't that mean that he can't legally be expelled?
I'm not saying the kid should get off without a scratch. Some thorough "parenting", maybe a shrink, definitely a suspension, but I think someone's First Amendment rights easily trump someone's "right to privacy" or "right to be left alone". I'm sure this kid had many sources for his material and I'm sure they all originate from his nympho classmates negating that privacy right and blabbing about their recent lay to their friends.
In short, every school body has malicious rumors about their classmates. This kid just collected, categorized, and distributed them. If this sounds eerily like ANY tabloid journal, that's because it is. Acquit.