I have no wish to cause a flame war either. Don't worry.Baresark said:Wow, this is a debate waiting to happen, so here it goes.NinjaDeathSlap said:The only difference being that in this day and age the people at the top of the US government are trying to help the downtrodden, but are being held back by the greed and apathy of the people...
But yeah, that movie looks pretty good.
That is not a true statement. The crony government is helping companies they want to succeed by letting them slip past regulation and propping them up. That is what the bailouts that government you are championing were. Also, a lot of those propped up companies have politicians on the receiving end of money either directly or indirectly. Most companies are responsible for themselves and their employees.
Also, the government allowed all those corrupt institutions that are responsible for the current financial woes to continue on the same course, encouraged them even. All the "Occupy" movements are by and large completely misdirected and a lot of responsible companies are getting caught up in the waves. I don't know what you think they are doing to help the downtrodden. The only thing they can do is extend unemployment. They can't create new jobs or more wealth. All they can do is redistribute an ever shrinking pool of money till there is literally nothing left.
As you champion that same government, they are, by and large, not championing you and I in return. Also, I say all of this with no malice or anger, I'm not interested in a flame war or a yelling match that is going to degrade into simple name calling with not reasonable debate therein.
Edit: Also, the movie is almost downright disturbing. It's a complete anomaly that spawned that cartoon, which I remember fondly. I used to watch the cartoon, then a few years later I saw the movie and I feel completely scarred by it's softcore porn like qualities combined with it's horrendous 70's era gore and special effects.
actuallySteve the Pocket said:"That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."
FUND I--
...Actually, I think this is one of Moviebob's silly ideas that's best left unrealized.
(I still want that U.S.S. Mountain Dew thing to be a real show, though.)
I can agree with some of what you said.NinjaDeathSlap said:I have no wish to cause a flame war either. Don't worry.NinjaDeathSlap said:snip
I am specifically talking about the US government led by Obama, not any of the activities of the Bush administration beforehand. Yes, they are helping prop up big businesses, but then again, that's how the economy works, and a lot of ordinary people depend on these businesses, so it is for everyone's benefit in the end. An example of what I think the government has done (or at least tried to do) to help the downtrodden, would be Obama's efforts to reform healthcare and to scale down the operation in Afghanistan. However, on both these occasions it was 'ordinary people' far more than his political opponents, who were up in arms. He tried to give them more support, he tried to bring their husbands and sons home from a war he doesn't fully believe in, and in return he got called a weak communist. So yeah, I stand by what I said. In the current climate we hurt each-other and ourselves more than the government hurts us.
The thing is, before turning into the Toxic Avenger, the character of Melvin is so stupid and obnoxious that it's really hard to feel sorry for him.aegix drakan said:Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAAAAIT A SECOND.
That scene where he falls out the window. Am I to understand that not only did club asshole harrass, demean, and possibly beat the stuffing out of the guy, but they also forced him to crossdress so they could mock him before they accidentally chucked him out the window?!
......I don't know WHAT happens to those guys in the movie, but I'm sure they deserve every second of it. That shit's not cool, bro. Not one bit.
Don't worry they (including the girls and one evil little old lady) all die horribly.aegix drakan said:Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAAAAIT A SECOND.
That scene where he falls out the window. Am I to understand that not only did club asshole harrass, demean, and possibly beat the stuffing out of the guy, but they also forced him to crossdress so they could mock him before they accidentally chucked him out the window?!
......I don't know WHAT happens to those guys in the movie, but I'm sure they deserve every second of it. That shit's not cool, bro. Not one bit.
The first time I heard of the movie, I dunno if I was just jumping to conclusions from the poster or if someone was lying about how it went, but I got the impression the guy actually stuffed his victims' heads up each other's asses somehow, instead of just grafting them together. Maybe that sort of thing would be a big deal back in the '90s when Marilyn Manson was considered the height of shock value, but ... eh.DTWolfwood said:speaking of The Human Centipede...i just recently watched it and i seriously thought it was going to be way more fucked up than it actually was. Everyone makes it out to be the sickest movie ever. Maybe i was just expecting a gorefest instead of a demented Doctor playing god
Tell me that's not real. Please? [small]Please?[/small]The_root_of_all_evil said:Like someone might do with ...Watchmen, say..."That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."
But I can't bear to let it remain.
Wait, WTF did I just watch??The_root_of_all_evil said:Like someone might do with ...Watchmen, say..."That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."