The Big Picture: The Toxic Avenger

Odd Water

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I've had this movie sitting on my Netflix list for months. I think I'll finally get around to watching it now.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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The Toxic Avenger cartoon was awesome. But then they made a cartoon of Rambo etc so its not a big deal. lol
 

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Baresark said:
NinjaDeathSlap said:
The only difference being that in this day and age the people at the top of the US government are trying to help the downtrodden, but are being held back by the greed and apathy of the people...

But yeah, that movie looks pretty good.
Wow, this is a debate waiting to happen, so here it goes.

That is not a true statement. The crony government is helping companies they want to succeed by letting them slip past regulation and propping them up. That is what the bailouts that government you are championing were. Also, a lot of those propped up companies have politicians on the receiving end of money either directly or indirectly. Most companies are responsible for themselves and their employees.

Also, the government allowed all those corrupt institutions that are responsible for the current financial woes to continue on the same course, encouraged them even. All the "Occupy" movements are by and large completely misdirected and a lot of responsible companies are getting caught up in the waves. I don't know what you think they are doing to help the downtrodden. The only thing they can do is extend unemployment. They can't create new jobs or more wealth. All they can do is redistribute an ever shrinking pool of money till there is literally nothing left.

As you champion that same government, they are, by and large, not championing you and I in return. Also, I say all of this with no malice or anger, I'm not interested in a flame war or a yelling match that is going to degrade into simple name calling with not reasonable debate therein.

Edit: Also, the movie is almost downright disturbing. It's a complete anomaly that spawned that cartoon, which I remember fondly. I used to watch the cartoon, then a few years later I saw the movie and I feel completely scarred by it's softcore porn like qualities combined with it's horrendous 70's era gore and special effects.
I have no wish to cause a flame war either. Don't worry.

I am specifically talking about the US government led by Obama, not any of the activities of the Bush administration beforehand. Yes, they are helping prop up big businesses, but then again, that's how the economy works, and a lot of ordinary people depend on these businesses, so it is for everyone's benefit in the end. An example of what I think the government has done (or at least tried to do) to help the downtrodden, would be Obama's efforts to reform healthcare and to scale down the operation in Afghanistan. However, on both these occasions it was 'ordinary people' far more than his political opponents, who were up in arms. He tried to give them more support, he tried to bring their husbands and sons home from a war he doesn't fully believe in, and in return he got called a weak communist. So yeah, I stand by what I said. In the current climate we hurt each-other and ourselves more than the government hurts us.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
"That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."

FUND I--

...Actually, I think this is one of Moviebob's silly ideas that's best left unrealized.

(I still want that U.S.S. Mountain Dew thing to be a real show, though.)
actually
 

Baresark

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
NinjaDeathSlap said:
I have no wish to cause a flame war either. Don't worry.

I am specifically talking about the US government led by Obama, not any of the activities of the Bush administration beforehand. Yes, they are helping prop up big businesses, but then again, that's how the economy works, and a lot of ordinary people depend on these businesses, so it is for everyone's benefit in the end. An example of what I think the government has done (or at least tried to do) to help the downtrodden, would be Obama's efforts to reform healthcare and to scale down the operation in Afghanistan. However, on both these occasions it was 'ordinary people' far more than his political opponents, who were up in arms. He tried to give them more support, he tried to bring their husbands and sons home from a war he doesn't fully believe in, and in return he got called a weak communist. So yeah, I stand by what I said. In the current climate we hurt each-other and ourselves more than the government hurts us.
I can agree with some of what you said.

But, unfortunately, the Obama lead administration isn't doing anything any different than the Bush administration with the exception of the health care debate. He wanted to ramp down our involvement in Afghanistan, but then he put us in Libya. He hasn't made any great strides to bring the troops home either. He has named some arbitrary dates he wants things to happen by, but so did Bush before him. While Obama walked into a bad situation, you have to look at what his administration has done to fix those problems and they have done very little. And, while I think Bush is one of the most atrocious presidents of the last 75 or so years, he can't get all the blame for it. One of the major starting points with the current economic crisis actually date back to 1972, when the government made it ok for banks to get into the loan business. Originally, this was the realm of private business who had to answer to financial investors. The banks at the time wanted a piece of the pie and government said ok. Then they put financial regulation into effect to help prevent this kind of thing, and then never held anyone accountable. Then we got QE1, done by the Bush administration and a followup QE2, done by Obama. It's a shame when you get no different ideas from a different administration.

Also, the government can't do things regardless of what the people want. That is not a democracy, that is a dictatorship. So, if the majority stand against something, then that is where the majority sits.
 

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aegix drakan said:
Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAAAAIT A SECOND.

That scene where he falls out the window. Am I to understand that not only did club asshole harrass, demean, and possibly beat the stuffing out of the guy, but they also forced him to crossdress so they could mock him before they accidentally chucked him out the window?!

......I don't know WHAT happens to those guys in the movie, but I'm sure they deserve every second of it. That shit's not cool, bro. Not one bit.
The thing is, before turning into the Toxic Avenger, the character of Melvin is so stupid and obnoxious that it's really hard to feel sorry for him.
 

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aegix drakan said:
Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAAAAIT A SECOND.

That scene where he falls out the window. Am I to understand that not only did club asshole harrass, demean, and possibly beat the stuffing out of the guy, but they also forced him to crossdress so they could mock him before they accidentally chucked him out the window?!

......I don't know WHAT happens to those guys in the movie, but I'm sure they deserve every second of it. That shit's not cool, bro. Not one bit.
Don't worry they (including the girls and one evil little old lady) all die horribly.

Also, dude, they ran over that little boys head and took pictures of it for the girls to f@#k off to later. What they did to Toxic was actually the most tame thing that they did.
 

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speaking of The Human Centipede...i just recently watched it and i seriously thought it was going to be way more fucked up than it actually was. Everyone makes it out to be the sickest movie ever. Maybe i was just expecting a gorefest instead of a demented Doctor playing god :(
 

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Nice to see a movie I've actually seen reviewed, and still better it's one of my favorites. Too bad we have to wait 11 months for another bout of monster flicks.
 

Aureliano

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And let's not forget the Toxic Revenger in Tiny Toons, the whole reason I ever watched the Toxic Avenger in the first place! That sort of reason is also why I watched Nice Girls Don't Explode, though it wasn't nearly so amazing as the high point of Troma. It's still sad that they cut out the sexploitation for high concept gorefests in later years. Loves me some gore, but where are the boobs?
 

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So with Shlocktober done and over with, will we finally get to hear your opinion of DC's "New 52"?
 

daxterx2005

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I've seen all the movies, have never got around to watching the cartoon tho.
Would anyone recommend it.
 

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DTWolfwood said:
speaking of The Human Centipede...i just recently watched it and i seriously thought it was going to be way more fucked up than it actually was. Everyone makes it out to be the sickest movie ever. Maybe i was just expecting a gorefest instead of a demented Doctor playing god :(
The first time I heard of the movie, I dunno if I was just jumping to conclusions from the poster or if someone was lying about how it went, but I got the impression the guy actually stuffed his victims' heads up each other's asses somehow, instead of just grafting them together. Maybe that sort of thing would be a big deal back in the '90s when Marilyn Manson was considered the height of shock value, but ... eh.

And then they make a sequel that tries to one-up the first movie, and it's just about adding more people to it. Really? That's the sort of thing you'd come up with as a parody, only you'd make it a full thirty people and call it "The Human Millipede: This Time It's Ten Times Worse." Or maybe an anime back in the Dragonball Z era when all it took was telling people the new enemy has a "power level" ten times what the last guy's was and they'd be in awe when the hero defeats him just as effortlessly with the same attack they used on the last guy (after about five full episodes of pointless banter between them of course).

/rant
 

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Another movie I'm heading to check out as the credits roll. Seems like an awesome movie, if nothing else. And hey, who doesn't like seeing exposed barrels of toxic/nuclear waste being transported by an open produce truck?

The_root_of_all_evil said:
"That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."
Like someone might do with ...Watchmen, say...

But I can't bear to let it remain.
Tell me that's not real. Please? [small]Please?[/small]
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
"That'd be like if today, someone made a cartoon out of The Human Centipede and put it on the Hub."
Like someone might do with ...Watchmen, say...

Wait, WTF did I just watch??
Is that a real thing?
It looks awful!

That movie seems like fun and it's been a good month, but I'm really looking forward to a regular episode again. It's been a while since a comics are weird ;)