The Big Picture: The Toxic Avenger

Unhappy Crow

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Funny how he mention the Hub. As I'm watching this video, I'm watching that channel right now.

I saw The Toxic Avenger years ago on G4TV, and I actually liked it. I need to see if I can watch it again on Netflix since the one I saw had censored.
 

Scrustle

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Is it just me or did the theme tune of that cartoon sound exactly like the old TMNT theme?
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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It's really a fucked up movie, which made it hard for me to enjoy.
Still, a very interesting way to round off Shlocktober (which, I must admit I wasn't a huge fan of). Truly we need such goofy commentary for this day and age.
 

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I watched it a few years, back we were cleaning out my dads old video tapes, and this was one of them, he told me i had to watch it before he threw it out. I am glad i did it was funny chessy and just fun to watch, im thinking there must be a dvd release somewhere i can find. Too amazon!
 

Baresark

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
The only difference being that in this day and age the people at the top of the US government are trying to help the downtrodden, but are being held back by the greed and apathy of the people...

But yeah, that movie looks pretty good.
Wow, this is a debate waiting to happen, so here it goes.

That is not a true statement. The crony government is helping companies they want to succeed by letting them slip past regulation and propping them up. That is what the bailouts that government you are championing were. Also, a lot of those propped up companies have politicians on the receiving end of money either directly or indirectly. Most companies are responsible for themselves and their employees.

Also, the government allowed all those corrupt institutions that are responsible for the current financial woes to continue on the same course, encouraged them even. All the "Occupy" movements are by and large completely misdirected and a lot of responsible companies are getting caught up in the waves. I don't know what you think they are doing to help the downtrodden. The only thing they can do is extend unemployment. They can't create new jobs or more wealth. All they can do is redistribute an ever shrinking pool of money till there is literally nothing left.

As you champion that same government, they are, by and large, not championing you and I in return. Also, I say all of this with no malice or anger, I'm not interested in a flame war or a yelling match that is going to degrade into simple name calling with not reasonable debate therein.

Edit: Also, the movie is almost downright disturbing. It's a complete anomaly that spawned that cartoon, which I remember fondly. I used to watch the cartoon, then a few years later I saw the movie and I feel completely scarred by it's softcore porn like qualities combined with it's horrendous 70's era gore and special effects.
 

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And an NES game too, as I recall.

Fun episode, Bob. Felt a little rushed towards the end, but that might have just been me wanting more. Now I have got to try to get that Ear Worm of a theme song out of my head.
 

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Look, I'm not saying that this was a bad choice for a "contemporary" superhero, but, right now, I think what people are looking for is less "beat the shit out of them" and more "get them out of power before they can do anymore damage."

In fact, I think the current "hero" we're looking for is probably more in line with V from V for Vendetta or 42 from the Hitman series (check out the bios of his targets: 9/10 they're truly horrible people in power; 1/10 they're trying to take out the few good ones in power you have left). I would say it's actually why series such as Leverage have caught on.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
Theres actually a county still doing a trick or treat tonight.
I'm in Boston, and after that big storm over the weekend a lot of places outside the city pushed it back all the way until Friday, considering they have two feet of snow, tons of downed trees and power lines, and possibly no electricity until then. We still have three more days of Schlocktober after this up here. Heh.
 

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@Baresark

I love how all the wall street people that the OWS people hate would have lost every dollar they had if it weren't for the government. The system was working, the investors made a litany of bad decisions and their companies were going to collapse as a result. What was their punishment? They got balled out by the government.

If the government had swooped in to manage the collapse I would have been open to that, but that's not what they did. Not to mentioned that the government created the bubble in the first place.

P.S.
Bob said "pollution" is at the forefront of American culture. Um... what are you talking about?
 
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Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAAAAIT A SECOND.

That scene where he falls out the window. Am I to understand that not only did club asshole harrass, demean, and possibly beat the stuffing out of the guy, but they also forced him to crossdress so they could mock him before they accidentally chucked him out the window?!

......I don't know WHAT happens to those guys in the movie, but I'm sure they deserve every second of it. That shit's not cool, bro. Not one bit.
 

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JimHawking said:
@Baresark

I love how all the wall street people that the OWS people hate would have lost every dollar they had if it weren't for the government. The system was working, the investors made a litany of bad decisions and their companies were going to collapse as a result. What was their punishment? They got balled out by the government.

If the government had swooped in to manage the collapse I would have been open to that, but that's not what they did. Not to mentioned that the government created the bubble in the first place.

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Bob said "pollution" is at the forefront of American culture. Um... what are you talking about?
The gov of USA bailed out banks was not the problem, 'cos if they didn't it would be a New Great Depression again. The problem is that the market is still de regulated and few are willing to regulate again. Also those banks saved by the American Treasury should be state banks now. State bussiness are often more stable and better protected against such crisis then private ones. Since I do not want make this post too long here are some food for thought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-owned_corporation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
PS: I know it is wikipedia, but those articles are pretty good. I know there is a contrast between first post and the second, but it is just food for thought. About the movie however...

I saw this movie once and I think Bob overread some parts of it. I always tought he was hideous as a form of contrast the always handsome super heroes. Cap America, Superman, Batman and even the Punisher are always protrayed with some kind of beauty. I can not name many super heroes who are ugly, that is because the more "heroish" the persona is the more romantic (the literature style) the character tends to be.
 

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I swear this guy is the quintessential modern hero, that film seems more relevant every time I turn on the news.

 

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brazuca said:
JimHawking said:
The gov of USA bailed out banks was not the problem, 'cos if they didn't it would be a New Great Depression again. The problem is that the market is still de regulated and few are willing to regulate again. Also those banks saved by the American Treasury should be state banks now. State bussiness are often more stable and better protected against such crisis then private ones. Since I do not want make this post too long here are some food for thought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-owned_corporation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
PS: I know it is wikipedia, but those articles are pretty good. I know there is a contrast between first post and the second, but it is just food for thought. About the movie however...

I saw this movie once and I think Bob overread some parts of it. I always tought he was hideous as a form of contrast the always handsome super heroes. Cap America, Superman, Batman and even the Punisher are always protrayed with some kind of beauty. I can not name many super heroes who are ugly, that is because the more "heroish" the persona is the more romantic (the literature style) the character tends to be.
The only problem with your assessment is that the collapse didn't happen in the wake of a large amount of de-regulation. Business is regulated more now than ever. The problem is that the regulation destroys smaller business competition and the only ones left who can meet it are the largest and wealthiest corporations. Those are the ones that have caused a lot of problems.

Also, all banks are state banks. The whole US banking industry is under the control of the Federal Reserve, which is the US central bank. Banking institutions such as Wells Fargo may have a board of directors that is not necessarily attached to the US Government, but the Federal Reserve is what regulates them. Also, for all the talk about the Federal Reserve being private, it's not. It was created by a congressional vote over Xmas break in 1912, and the Federal Reserve act went into effect January 1st, 1913. By 1914 the incorporation of the 3 Federal banks of the US into one had happened, and by 1916 they were producing Federal Reserve Notes (the US Dollar).

The only time banks were not federal was when there was competition in currency. Now the Federal Reserve enjoys the status of being the only banking system allowed to create US currency, unlike what was available prior to it's inception. In other words, since they Federal Reserve makes the currency, it determines which institutions get it and the rate at which it is allowed to lend at. And since it was created by an act of Congress (during the Christmas recess, when most congressman were not in attendance), it cannot be considered private.

State institution are always going to be more stable because they enjoy a nearly infinite amount of financial backing. Unlike private business which can only succeed by meeting the needs of the consumer base. Many government businesses would fail in short order if not for this singular fact.

Edit: I also couldn't agree more about your assessment of comic properties. I always thought it stood as a parody of this fact. In many things, evil is depicted as being beautiful. So it would stand to reason that the hero would probably be the uglier of the two at some point.
 

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All I remember from that film were the overblown facial expressions, but I think I was quite drunk at the time.
No idea is spawned a children's cartoon, though. That is pretty surreal.
 

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Very very very happy MovieBob rounded off Schlocktober with good ol' Toxie. The original predates me but I found it online line a couple of years back when I was trawling through obscure horror movies. It is amazing and I would say not a horror movie at all, just a dark superhero flick. Think like Watchmen, but cheesy and with- I was going to say more nudity, but... yeah.

Anyway, get on ebay and track it down, people.
 

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It really is amazing how Bob frames my entire cinematic formative years into historical and political context like that. Insightful and and entertaining as always, still a big fan!