- Feb 8, 2010
Oh that wasn't mean. I know mean. And that was too apologetic to be mean. But I would appreciate if you'd elaborate on some of your points. I'm more interested with engaging with criticism than I am with praise.piscian said:Trying not to be too mean. Art style is generic, safe and easy. I could have easily copy and pasted it out of any number of other webcomics(I'll leave the manga comments alone) You should try to to put yourself more into your art, even if people don't like it.
I'm not sure if I was expecting hilarity, but I'm hoping in the future this will be less luke warm.
Sorry if I came off mean. best of luck.
I believe I get where you're coming from, obviously not meaning "literally" copy and pasting the imagery and the backgrounds to create a similar feel. Let's face it, I draw in a way reminiscent of "manga" style and from the appearances it just might not appeal to you. I hope your judgement of my work doesn't stop at a gut reaction to "manga face" that seems like an unfair label to a whole world of comics that fall along that side of things. I deeply appreciate the artwork of cartoonists like Kricfalusi, Publick, and Tartarskovy or webcomic people like Krahulik, Nedroid, and KC Green. I'd be a fool not to. Just like I'd be remiss if I ignored the entire other half of the world of comics.
That said... I feel like I'm just about left of Avatar the Last Airbender and right of Teen Titans (sans the exceedingly goofy expressions) in the grand scale of cartoons versus manga. Unfortunately, this is still a little too far "east" than a lot of people are willing to see.
If that's not the argument, and we're to discuss technical matters, this would be a lesson better served in person if it were possible. Anatomy and structure are hard to point out over text, though red lines sometimes suffice. Aesthetically speaking is another matter.
That it's generic and safe and easy is a much messier argument. To me I feel like I can argue it'd have been safer if I'd gone with big expressions, lots of teeth, distorted proportions, bold outlines and the like. I often find that work beautiful, and expressive. But I myself as an artist and a writer love more laid back scenes. Enjoying the process of considering layered light and flow, atmospherics, along with actors who are not acting but standing like I think they would in a natural location. It's so rare for me to find a comic that attempts a laid back and luke warm sensibility, without placing a strong emphasis on solid visuals.
Not to toot my own horn, but I feel I work pretty hard at this stuff sometimes. I've chosen to handwrite all my own dialog. It leads to lots of mistakes in kerning and line spacing that come with the territory. But it matches my own voice better than any font I've seen so far available.
I don't mean to just dismiss your argument, but sometimes some choices in style and structure just can't please everyone. If it makes you feel a little more comfortable, I made a lot of style decisions deliberately and not just because it was easy. I can share a few examples of my work in different styles here.
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I'd love to continue this discussion further if you have the time. This hasn't been the first time I've had this talk, and it certainly won't be the last.