- Apr 1, 2012
Uh, I did.Alek_the_Great said:Wait, who said I was attacking his blackness?
Yes, that's what I said. You are not saying, "It's good that Johnny Storm is white," but rather, "It's bad that he's black."Alek_the_Great said:I have said multiple times that the reason I don't like they've chosen a black actor for Johnny Storm is that because Johnny Storm is white in every other incarnation.
Math is the only subject that isn't subjective, so not really sure your measuring stick applies.Alek_the_Great said:Usually, you don't try to paint a side's argument as "racist" when you're trying to debate something that's subjective.
The hell would I know? Ask the director, don't ask me.Alek_the_Great said:Why else would this choice be made though?
What's your basis for saying that?Alek_the_Great said:It's not like he chose him because he was the best available actor when casting; the director already predetermined he was going to cast him as Johnny Storm way before this was announced.
I'm not talking about the movie. I'm talking about the comic. The comic changed the Mandarin's skin color (and presumably his facial hair as well). This offends you when it's done to Johnny Storm, so why doesn't it offend you when it's done to the Mandarin?Alek_the_Great said:Yeah.... they didn't just alter the Mandarin's skin in the movie, if you hadn't noticed.
God, there are so many things I want to say to this, but I have places to be, so I'm just going to ask, what about Johnny Storm's character required Stan Lee to invent him as a white man to such a degree that no other race (or combination of races, which I only bring up because I think people forget how many people are not racially pure) was a viable choice?Alek_the_Great said:a selection made usually automatically or without active consideration due to lack of a viable alternative
Then it is not a default, because there were other viable options. Like, say, the option the filmmakers chose.Alek_the_Great said:What are you arguing for? That Johnny Storm could of been any race if Stan Lee chose so? Well no shit Sherlock. But guess what, Stan Lee chose to make him white and not a different race. That's just an inane argument considering just about any character can be race or gender swapped. The point is he could [have] chosen to have made him another race, but he didn't.