The fine line between Pro and Noob

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Lord Krunk

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I, being a gamer, have been playing games since I was 4. And it's about time I was classified as to what sort of gamer I am.

In reference to this, There is no apparent term between Pro and Noob, an area which I am best suited for (I suck at all strategy games, and I suck at MMOs, yet I am proficient in an FPS, Puzzle, Racing, Proper RPGs, Adventure and various others (What the hell is JSRF and GTA?))

Anyway, I would like to hear from people who believe that there is a space in between Pros and Noobs, and possible terms for this (Not "Trained Noobs," that's stealing from Pure_Pwnage).

Thanks for your help.
 

Uskis

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I'd say I'm a hardcore gamer, but far from pro. I am by no means a n00b when it comes to gaming and learning a new game and it's different facets. I however have a rather weak style of play when it somes to multiplayer. I tend to enjoy the good fight and intense aesthetic experience rather than the total domination of others. So in that sense i'm a kind of a n00b..
 

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A pro is someone that gets paid, and if you don't get paid to play video games, then you are not a pro gamer.

Instead you can be a hardcore, a casual or a "newbie"/rookie.
 

GothmogII

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Humm, a newb, newbie is a kind of positve term for a person who is new to an activity, gaming in this instance.

A noob, is a more disparaging term, which, may or may not be deserved, in can be used as an insult, both against someone who isn't really that bad, or someone who is just awful at the game.

A Pro is someone, who is moderately or greatly adept at the activity (see also: Hardcore gamer). Alternatively, you can take it literally, i.e. someone who plays at tournaments and such for a living, a professional gamer.


Now! Ze middle...I suppose, I'd consider 'casual gamer' as acceptable, as, you play enough that you can be realatively good at what you do, but not so much as that you'll be at the top of the scoreboards. You play, just for enjoyment. Granted, casual is often taken to mean you only play 'lighter' fare such as puzzles or Sim alike games. But I think it's an apt description for just playing a wide variety of games without excelling above and beyond in any.
 

Lord Krunk

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GothmogII said:
Humm, a newb, newbie is a kind of positve term for a person who is new to an activity, gaming in this instance.

A noob, is a more disparaging term, which, may or may not be deserved, in can be used as an insult, both against someone who isn't really that bad, or someone who is just awful at the game.

A Pro is someone, who is moderately or greatly adept at the activity (see also: Hardcore gamer). Alternatively, you can take it literally, i.e. someone who plays at tournaments and such for a living, a professional gamer.


Now! Ze middle...I suppose, I'd consider 'casual gamer' as acceptable, as, you play enough that you can be realatively good at what you do, but not so much as that you'll be at the top of the scoreboards. You play, just for enjoyment. Granted, casual is often taken to mean you only play 'lighter' fare such as puzzles or Sim alike games. But I think it's an apt description for just playing a wide variety of games without excelling above and beyond in any.
A+

So no specific term? Nothing I haven't heard of before? I liked "halfling noob," but I will have to say that I am a casual gamer.
 

poleboy

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These terms only work in competitive games. I've played videogames for 20+ years, but I was never great at CS and I always got pwned in WoW PVP arenas, because I'm not really a competitive gamer. I think playing against others is fun, but I don't like spending my gaming time honing the same skills over and over in the same environment.

And like someone else said, you're not a pro unless you get paid for it. That's what the word means.
 

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poleboy said:
These terms only work in competitive games. I've played videogames for 20+ years, but I was never great at CS and I always got pwned in WoW PVP arenas, because I'm not really a competitive gamer. I think playing against others is fun, but I don't like spending my gaming time honing the same skills over and over in the same environment.

And like someone else said, you're not a pro unless you get paid for it. That's what the word means.
I agree about the "Pro" thing. I sought of just used a term that was likened to "brilliant gamer". I also don't like honing my skills, I become obsessed with a game, forget about it, then pull it back out of my "game shelf" to play it again. And when I'm bored with all my games, I read a couple of books, and get back to gaming again.

It's a pasttime and source of enjoyment for me, nothing more.
 

Uskis

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poleboy said:
And like someone else said, you're not a pro unless you get paid for it. That's what the word means.
As Gothmogli said, I don't think pro should be used literally. Pro at a game, in my eyes, signifies that you have great skill in a game, especially when it comes to competitive stuff.
 

LackingSaint

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I'd sort of classify gamers as-

Newbies
Casual
Hardcore
Pro

Newbies are relatively new to video games, and don't care much for them, and most likely only play games when at a friends house or forced to by a roommate.

Casual gamers are gamers with average skill of games, and most likely have only one or possibly two consoles. They'll usually stick to slow-paced games, and will proably spend more time outside than playing.

Harcore gamers are gamers who are completely up-to-date with the newest games, and with above-average skills with most games. They'll most likely have two or three consoles, and will enjoy online games, if only to show off their skills.

Pro gamers, whilst not neccesarily the highest tier of gamers, are considered to be at the top of their game, and are paid as such. They'll most likely spend a large portion of their life gaming, something many people dream and fear they'll eventually end up doing.
 

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I have to say I agree with most everything that has been said here, but allow me to reiterate.

Newbie: new person to the game/learner
N00B: someone who is bad at the game, this person may or may not be new to the game/learning
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Pro/hardcore gamer*: people who are really good at a game, and in some cases might be playing games for a living.

now i'd like to insert 2 new terms into the gamer classification table.
+ intermediates: people who know the game, but who don't play seriously. i.e the middle range players in CS... the ones who know the maps and know how to increase their chances of scoring a headshot, but who either aren't competitive or just don't play the game enough to be Pro/hardcore.

++ veterans: people who have played the game for ages, they know all the tricks and every corner of the map, but don't play the game competitively or very often anymore. The people that are solidly lodged in rank 3-10 on the server

* or those goddamn 8 years olds who have to much free fucking time on their hands and decide to play CS for 80 hours a week, until they can headshot you from halfway across the map if even half a centimeter of you character is out of cover for a second.
 

poleboy

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Uskis said:
poleboy said:
And like someone else said, you're not a pro unless you get paid for it. That's what the word means.
As Gothmogli said, I don't think pro should be used literally. Pro at a game, in my eyes, signifies that you have great skill in a game, especially when it comes to competitive stuff.
Okay. What do you call someone who plays CS for a living then?

Snarky response in 3.. 2.. 1..
 

Uskis

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poleboy said:
Uskis said:
poleboy said:
And like someone else said, you're not a pro unless you get paid for it. That's what the word means.
As Gothmogli said, I don't think pro should be used literally. Pro at a game, in my eyes, signifies that you have great skill in a game, especially when it comes to competitive stuff.
Okay. What do you call someone who plays CS for a living then?

Snarky response in 3.. 2.. 1..
A professional gamer ;)

But really. It can be used in both ways sure.. But I instantly connect "pro" with the more broad meaning..
 

stompy

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I've always been told that a newbie is someone who's new to the game, a pro is someone who games in tournaments and competitions (with cash prizes), and a noob is someone who sucks, but more importantly, doesn't acknowledge they suck.

I would classify myself as a gamer: someone who just games for the fun of it. Meh, it may be just be me, but I like the simplicity of my categorisation.
 

Lance Icarus

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I think the best way to avoid this scenario is to never play a game online. If you even bother to think for a second if you're a noob or whatever, they are winning the psycological war. When a 12 year old is breaking down your psyche, you know you've got problems.
 

Naybo

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I reckon we should scrap the whole pro noob thing.
And start referring to each other as
Shit or
Mint
Like.....
"Mate, you're well shit"
or
"Fuckin' hell man, your mint"
And to mix things up, if your better than mint, you could be "shit hot" or "The shit"

But yer, back to the point...
On FPS' its kinda difficult to be consistently "pro"
One map you could be insanely awesome and obliterate everybody else whereas, the following map, you could turn into a power turd...And get blown to bits.
When it all comes down to it,
You could be a pro on a console, but outside, in the real world...
Where probably all just gonna end up as rape victims.
No matter what our gamerscore is...
 

The Rusk

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I wanna know if there's a classification for people who are naturally good at games?

I'd guess that it would fall under the term "casual gamer", but sometimes it doesn't quite fit. For example, I play games a fair amount but nothing excessive. Yet when I play COD4 I can get freakishly good scores, my best one to date is 57 kills - 4 deaths. Now that's not because I play the game a lot (I've had the game since it came out and played it for 4 days in total), it's because I play extremely aggressively and I've got good reaction skills. The term "casual gamer" doesn't seem to fit, seeing as I get MVP in about every 1 in 3 games.

Any suggestions?
 

laikenf

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i would've considered myself a pro back in the 8 bit and 16 bit days, but since gaming has evolved so much these days that I seriously consider myself a noob.