The Military
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I have a standing offer from the Navy to join the Nuclear Power school, but I don't think I will unless I really need the money. However, I had a grandfather and 3 great-uncles in the service, and a fair number of cousins. In my case it's as much a tendency to avoid commitments as anything why I haven't gone in.
I am the most disorganised, rule-hating, anarchistic person I know, so no, I would be horrible in the military.
Yeah, technical training is always the worst part. What got me was the fact that they don't want to just FLING you out of basic into the real world, so instead, they phase you into it. Which is just as annoying, because holy shit we left basic days ago.Ares Tyr said:
My flight got lucky - we went from first phase (lights out at a certain time, always in BDUs, inspections every three days) to third phase (you can stay up as late as you want, hang out in civie clothing after school, and inspections maybe once a month) in like two weeks. The normal progression is phase three by the end of your second month at school, but we took the initiative and helped clean up and repair the base after a tornado.
But yeah, watching the newbies out of basic run around like they are still in basic for at least two weeks at tech school never made much sense to me. I understand they don't want us to forget our training, but JFC, it's torture after a certain point.
Have a friend who just got out of being a Nukie in a submarine for 6 years. Right out of the gate, he got a $60k a year job at Raytheon, and two standing offers to work for the government and the local power company for the same amount. Dude, it's so totally worth it.GyroCaptain said:
A friend of mine said that he is planning to join, and he knows A LOT about it, so that's admirable, and he could get through training pretty easily with that knowledge. BTW lol at 5-year old rapist
A lot of these "senseless" things in the training phase are simply to test your ability to obey and follow orders. Some people really have a problem with that; but it just comes down to you saying "Fine, I'll do what I'm told." In Navy bootcamp, they focus a lot on the way you fold your uniforms, keep your locker, and maching in formation. It seems silly to do these things as training to be on a warship, but it has a bit of purpose. That doesn't mean the system could not be improved, IMO. I wish the military branches were more hardcore about punishing and kicking out those that don't want to follow rules - then we wouldn't have to play these silly childish games.Ares Tyr said:
Just an explaination for those that don't know. Most of the people I see go up aren't repeat offenders. It seems like lately the place I'm at now just looks for any silly reason to make an example out of someone. This seems contradictory to what I said above, but when your boss screws up and you take the fall - that's jacked up.McClaud said:
They tried to push me into that field, and sometimes I wish I had done it simply for the money. I would rather be in a field I enjoy though; and that should be your big decision on which job you pick. For the love of God, do your research about different job fields before you just sign up. If you are still interested in the nuke field, they have some nice reenlistment bonuses. This is from an email I just received:GyroCaptain said:
60,000 DOLLAR AWARD CEILING
RATING / NEC / ZONE A / ZONE B / ZONE C /
NUC / 3384 / 4.5 / 5.5 / 0.0
NUC / 3394 / 4.5 / 5.5 / 0.0
Basically saying you can get up to $60,000 for reenlisting after your 1st enlistment (if you have one of those NECs - job field codes), and I'm sure there's an enlistment bonus for those guys right off the bat. Don't be blinded by the money though - if you're hating your job, you're going to be pretty miserable. Talk to some people in different job fields (there are forums for this) and do a few searches online. http://usmilitary.about.com is a great reference for a lot of basic information. If you want to discuss more stuff about the Navy, send me a PM.
No offence to anybody in the military, but in my opinion, no amount of money is worth getting shot at on a regular basis. Call me a coward if you will, but hey, at the end of the day I'd probably make more money sat behind some sort of desk.
I'm thinking about joining the military. I think the whole retarded five year old thing is to make everyone feel like shit together and bond...but I don't know.
That's okay.Doc Theta Sigma said:
I thought that same thing at first, and it made me sort of nervous about joining the military. But my options were somewhat limited (I could become a farmer like my father, or struggle through college to get my master's degree), so I went into the Air Force.
It wasn't until I actually went to other war zones that I realized that getting shot at in the military was actually not that bad. Not as bad as the civilians around me who were getting shot at EVERY DAY and couldn't fight back. However, I wish I could go back and not kill people. I mean, I did it more out of self-defense than offense, but it still had a profound impact on my life. The Canadian soldiers were accustomed to it, so shooting someone was not as bad for them. I was Intelligence - I was not supposed to be there.
But live and learn. That's what you do in the military - one way or another.
Nope, no way I'd join the military, even though I once had dreams of becoming a fighter pilot (and I still find military aviation interesting, mind you), I would never fight for this country, it doesn't deserve it.
Also, I have problems with the "superiority" ideals present in the military, that, because person X has a higher rank than you, they are apparently worthy more than you are, and those kind of ideas don't sit well with me D:
Also, I have problems with the "superiority" ideals present in the military, that, because person X has a higher rank than you, they are apparently worthy more than you are, and those kind of ideas don't sit well with me D:
I haven't been shot at yet!Doc Theta Sigma said:
Then again, I'm not in a place where it's unlikely I'll ever be shot at. There's a saying in the Navy: Choose your rate, choose your fate. Basically, choosing the right job.You know, it's funny how many people don't realize that the Air Force puts certain people on the ground in combat zones (myself included, until I worked with some AF guys and found out about it).McClaud said:
It is a shame that you feel that way, but a lot of people feel that way about their respective country. I can only hope we'll go in the right direction so that people can be proud of where they're from. You know I'm not supposed to give my political opinion about stuff going on; but my personal hopes are that someday we can just be a self-defense force (sort of like what Japan has now), and not go waging war anymore.Arachon said:
It's hard to feel that way when you read about what goes on in some places though. It's hard to see why countries have not become more involved in places like Africa with the horrors that have happened there.