The new Tomb Raider movie

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The 2013 reboot seems to have been a case of love it or hate it, but the 2018 movie adaptation is one big meh. Kinda fine and inoffensive as a run of the mill action-adventure movie, and in light of the recent Assassin's Creed, new Hitman and final Resident Evil movies, it's probably the most "dignified" movie adaptation games have had for a while. But nothing shakes off the blandness and mediocrity from the experience.

I hate the casting. I don't know who Alicia Vikander is and she brings nothing to Lara Croft - she's a punchbag with a pretty face and an inordinately oversized forehead. Angie had her bad girl rep and was having fun with it, Alicia is just sort of out of air and always with that worrisome Hermione expression chiselled on her face. I guess that goes with the reboot.

I hated the villain. I've loved Walton Goggins in everything he's been so far, but here he's just as bland as Lara. He's just some dude - no personality, nothing remarkable about him, just a middle management sort of dude whose one moment of villainy is shooting one of his workers - some extra - to establish what a cruel heartless monster he is. This reminded me of the cloud from Futurama zapping the redshirt over and over for a threat. Who gives a shit?

Actually on the subject of the game - maybe it's that it's five times as long as the movie, but there Lara felt truly cut off and isolated and like she had to revert to some primal force to survive. The movie makes things so quick and easy for her that she never goes through any semblance of transformation. She has too many allies and too many lucky coincidences going for her.

Remember the big controversy about how one of the mooks wants to rape Lara in the game (vaguely implied as far as I remember)? No such thing here. These dudes have been wrecked forever in this shit island and the first woman they see in seven years... they just ignore her. Put her to forced labor. Uh-huh. Look I'm not a creep advocating for more rape in movies, I just think it goes against the character of the baddies that you're trying to depict as inhuman monsters "too far gone" with zero accountability and they don't so much as look twice at the first woman, absolutely helpless, they've seen in seven years. I've heard construction workers spout worse just because they're bored and on lunch break.

In a nutshell both the game and the movie are supposed to be about how Lara transforms into a weathered tomb raider and all that but here she faces so little adversity that it's completely lost on her.

And, again, I hated Vikander in the role.
 

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Gee, what a shock.

I guess someone somewhere sees a reason to continue these embarrassments. I mean, are the profits that significant we have to go through this song and dance over and over and over?
 

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I saw a YouTube review that said it doesn't feel anything like a video game movie, nor a Tomb Raider movie, but viewed that as a positive thing, as she didn't like games or Tomb Raider.

So take that as you will.
 

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Silentpony said:
I saw a YouTube review that said it doesn't feel anything like a video game movie, nor a Tomb Raider movie, but viewed that as a positive thing, as she didn't like games or Tomb Raider.

So take that as you will.
After watching Chris Stuckmann's review, the movie is very faithful (whether good or bad) to the 2013 reboot.
 

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I don't get what Hollywood's deal with Tomb Raider is. If it wasn't for Resident Evil it would probably be the most adapted video game franchise and I don't understand what they see in it. I mean, okay, yes, attractive female Indiana Jones, it seems like an easy sell when you put it like that, but actually playing it there's hardly anything that screams "This needs to be brought to the big screen!" I couod think of dozens of games more deserving of a film adaptation.
 

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Silentpony said:
I saw a YouTube review that said it doesn't feel anything like a video game movie, nor a Tomb Raider movie, but viewed that as a positive thing, as she didn't like games or Tomb Raider.

So take that as you will.
I don't think fidelity for a game necessarily breaks or makes a movie adaptation. But Lara is a weak, boring character against a weak, boring villain in a weak, boring story. And they got the wrong person to play her.
 

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Haven't watched the new one, just want to put in my two cents about Angie. She was the Kilmer/ Clooney version of Croft. Me personally, Camp as Hell. I didn't enjoy it. Can't imagine this new one doing something worse.
 

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trunkage said:
Haven't watched the new one, just want to put in my two cents about Angie. She was the Kilmer/ Clooney version of Croft. Me personally, Camp as Hell. I didn't enjoy it. Can't imagine this new one doing something worse.
In a world with no other reference I don't think the Kilmer/Clooney analogy holds up. There's no "Michael Keaton of Tomb Raider", amazing as that would be. If anything Angelina created the character (I don't count the occasional showcase model as a performance) and at least she had a distinct personality going for he. Vikander is every other YA heroine: the performance is she's worried and out of breath.

Also I think the campy tone more than suits such a ridiculous character.
 

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Yeah, I'm not shocked. Honestly I've never been much of a fan for the 2013 reboot. Found it pretty boring and bland after a while.
 

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Well, look on the bright side. With 50% on RT, it's pretty much the highest ranked VG movie ever (at least among those released in cinemas).
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
I don't get what Hollywood's deal with Tomb Raider is. If it wasn't for Resident Evil it would probably be the most adapted video game franchise and I don't understand what they see in it. I mean, okay, yes, attractive female Indiana Jones, it seems like an easy sell when you put it like that, but actually playing it there's hardly anything that screams "This needs to be brought to the big screen!" I couod think of dozens of games more deserving of a film adaptation.
Tomb Raider was fucking huge in the 90's, and its traces still last to this day. That's more than enough for Hollywood to keep those dollar signs in its eyes.
 

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So what your saying is the Ace Attorney movie is till the best video game adaption? Well, duh it was actually done in Japan.


Also 'punchbag with a pretty face' sums up the last two games so it could be perfect casting. Just bland like the games.
 

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Hawki said:
Well, look on the bright side. With 50% on RT, it's pretty much the highest ranked VG movie ever (at least among those released in cinemas).
I absolutely agree with the 50% score (I gave it 5/10 when I reviewed it), it's mediocrity incarnate. Which seems to be a recurring thing with videogame movie adaptations. Like the Prince of Persia movie - not offensively bad, just bland and mediocre.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I hate the casting. I don't know who Alicia Vikander is and she brings nothing to Lara Croft - she's a punchbag with a pretty face and an inordinately oversized forehead. Angie had her bad girl rep and was having fun with it, Alicia is just sort of out of air and always with that worrisome Hermione expression chiselled on her face. I guess that goes with the reboot.
Vikander's a great actress, particularly as Caroline Matilda in A Royal Affair and the android Ava in Ex Machina. If she sucks in this, it's probably down to the direction.
 

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"Well, 75635th times the charm" thinks Hollywood, and the world will go on.

I got quite a chuckle out of this, not in relation to the movie itself, but the article that was in today's newspaper. In it the writer wrote that the series is no longer based on objectification of women. I just thought about the absolutely FUCKHUEG amounts of SFM porn of Lara Croft, and how massively the new version of Lara overshadows the old one in that regard. Yeah, Lara running through all that rain, mud and dark caves in the 2013 game in just some pants and an oh so tight tank top showing that sweet bod had nothing to do with sex appeal, totally, I swear!
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
undeadsuitor said:
They knew it was going to suck the second they wrote out Sam from the reboot

just like Rise
Sam is the maybe-she's-lesbian fodder, right?
Pretty much. Childhood friend introduced into the plot like a romantic interest, whose existence borderlines on the "Your Princess is in another castle" trope as she's moved around the island out of Lara's reach, and whose shouted name makes up 75% of Lara's dialog while alone.

It was lazy, but hey videogames are so boringly straight that any drop of gayness seems like a breath of fresh air
Err wasn't Tomb Raider legends laced with lesbian implications?
 
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Johnny Novgorod said:
Hawki said:
Well, look on the bright side. With 50% on RT, it's pretty much the highest ranked VG movie ever (at least among those released in cinemas).
I absolutely agree with the 50% score (I gave it 5/10 when I reviewed it), it's mediocrity incarnate. Which seems to be a recurring thing with videogame movie adaptations. Like the Prince of Persia movie - not offensively bad, just bland and mediocre.
Maybe this means that after decades of outright shit video game movies, and decades of mediocre ones, hollywood will start churning out good flicks. Can't wait!

And i know Vikander from two movies, besides this one. One is Ex Machina, the other is a period drama about dutch tulip fever. I recommend the former, it's an interesting, little sci fi movie.