The Witcher Dev: Booth Babes Are the "Cheapest Trick"

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The Witcher Dev: Booth Babes Are the "Cheapest Trick"


CD Projekt says companies will use booth babes as long as a receptive audience exists.

CD Projekt hasn't shied away from sexual content in either of the Witcher games, but CEO, Marcin Iwinski, argues there's a big difference between using sex to tell a story and using it to sell a product.

"I think, at the end of the day, it's all about making a great story. We're not using things like sex for cheap tricks and draw some male audience to that," he told Rock Paper Shotgun. "That'd totally make no sense."

This year's E3 has been heavily criticized for its sexualized content, both in the games on display and on the show floor in the form of booth babes.

"I think it will always happen as long as a part of your audience is male," said Iwinski. "The cheapest trick is to grab a fancy car and put a booth babe next to it. So yes, it's there. I don't think having a presentation where it's a major part of a game is necessarily a problem. It makes sense, because the game is defending itself. So it's just a part of the world. Some people will overuse it. Others won't."

Iwinski argues that developers should have the right to present game worlds as they see fit, and with as much sexual content as their stories require. He believes the gaming public - which is becoming more rounded and diverse if the vitriolic responses to the trailers for Hitman: Absolution and Tomb Raider are anything to go by - will discourage developers and publishers from using sex and sexualized content irresponsibly.

"Yes, it could alienate audiences," he said. "But you have to look at it from the quality of the product perspective. If it's overused [in marketing], it probably won't be a big product anyway. Really, I think the market is eliminating all the weaknesses and all the cheap tricks."

He did however, add that hormonally-driven trailers will be around as long as there are hormonally-driven gamers.

"But, at the end of the day, males are making certain decisions through hormones," he said. "People are paid to take care of the market and know it very well. Am I offended in some of these cases? Sure. And when people don't do [these sorts of things] well, it's obvious and there's a lot of criticism around it. But you really have to look at it on a product-by-product basis. And then it really depends on somebody's taste. "

Source: Rock Paper Shotgun [http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/21/cd-projekt-on-game-of-thrones-sexs-place-in-gaming/]

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Zaik

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You know, I get the feeling this guy never played The Witcher.

The only storytelling I managed to glean from my five hours with it was that any female character with a name wants to fuck the main character. That name might be something as simple as "Waitress C", doesn't really matter.
 
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Well, I suppose when you've done it before for your game, you know exactly what it looks like.

Sex cards, anyone?
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
"Using sex to sell stuff is totally wrong, but it's different when we do it!"
He thinks that it is inherently more respectable to honestly sell sex as part of a product when it has been installed under the hood during part of the creation process, then if it was draped over the bonnet after the finished product has been placed on the showroom floor and is ready for sale.

You might not agree with what he is saying, but he is being consistent.
 

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Thank you. Gott love CD Projekt. Best company of this generation. Though the fact that the original Witcher had collectible sex cards makes me chuckle a bit. Who knows, maybe they just grew out of it, since Witcher 2 handles sex in the most mature way I have ever seen a video game handle sex.
 

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He does kind of bring up a good point.

People wont take a product very seriously if they have booth babes around it.
"HEY LOOK TITS!" Sure that gets some people interested.

But lots of other people just find it immature.
 

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Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
 

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ThreeKneeNick said:
Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
In which case, replace the lady with what you'd consider "sexual perfection" Maybe a Calvin Klein model *shrug*

And it makes sense, some people see good looking ladies, and then wonder what the game has to do with said ladies, so they check the game out.
 

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JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
In which case, replace the lady with what you'd consider "sexual perfection" Maybe a Calvin Klein model *shrug*

And it makes sense, some people see good looking ladies, and then wonder what the game has to do with said ladies, so they check the game out.
I thought of it like that and it wouldn't work. I'd stare at the model and ignore the product...

Besides, if we're talking of a gaming convention here, everybody is obviously there to check out the games, they don't need models to draw anyone's attention.
 

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ThreeKneeNick said:
JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
In which case, replace the lady with what you'd consider "sexual perfection" Maybe a Calvin Klein model *shrug*

And it makes sense, some people see good looking ladies, and then wonder what the game has to do with said ladies, so they check the game out.
I thought of it like that and it wouldn't work. I'd stare at the model and ignore the product...

Besides, if we're talking of a gaming convention here, everybody is obviously there to check out the games, they don't need models to draw anyone's attention.
Well, that's the logic behind it, and it's not something unique to the gaming industry. I personally don't think it's quite as effective as they make it out to be, but I'm not complaining about the ladies either, but I'm probably just a shallow shabuir or something
 

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JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
In which case, replace the lady with what you'd consider "sexual perfection" Maybe a Calvin Klein model *shrug*

And it makes sense, some people see good looking ladies, and then wonder what the game has to do with said ladies, so they check the game out.
I thought of it like that and it wouldn't work. I'd stare at the model and ignore the product...

Besides, if we're talking of a gaming convention here, everybody is obviously there to check out the games, they don't need models to draw anyone's attention.
Well, that's the logic behind it, and it's not something unique to the gaming industry. I personally don't think it's quite as effective as they make it out to be, but I'm not complaining about the ladies either, but I'm probably just a shallow shabuir or something
yeah. by the way, I went to your profile and clicked the red button. Argh he is everywhere now.
 

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ThreeKneeNick said:
yeah. by the way, I went to your profile and clicked the red button. Argh he is everywhere now.
You poor poor soul, I shall pray that the gods of the internet will show mercy upon thee.
 

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I love CDPROJEKT, but this comment was dumb for it's like the pot calling the kettle black..
 

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Mcoffey said:
It sounds way less hypocritical in the original interview:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/21/cd-projekt-on-game-of-thrones-sexs-place-in-gaming/


RPS: Some pundits say Game of Thrones uses [sex] as a crutch, though. People talk a bunch, so they use it to keep eyes on the screen.


Iwinski: I totally disagree with that, but I have a story [laughs]. We were showing Witcher 1 for the first time? and I think it goes back to a different cultural perception of sex. In the US, it?s pretty much a no-go zone. It explains, for example, why you have a very thriving porn industry ? which is a bit of a contradiction [laughs]. But, you know, business is business, one could say.

Back home [in Poland], though, it?s just a normal part of life. So with the famous ? or infamous, you could say ? sex cards, European journalists were like ?Oh, cool.? And then we showed Witcher 1 to people in the US, and they were like [gasps in an impressively high pitch]. A lot of the key magazines treated the whole thing as a big feature, and they were writing how our programmer was excited about the sex cards in the game.

To them it was little more than window dressing that helped to flavor the world. It was never meant to sell people on the game.
It also perfectly fit the character of Geralt.

I'm not going to get into arguments with people who "don't get it" because that's a long bridge to cross. Would be like trying to explain Tale of Two Cities to someone.

But there was nothing about the sexuality of either Geralt or the people he met that should have been surprising. Nor was any of it jarringly out of place.

That's all I can say, the rest would just involve people either reading the books or actually reading the dialogue in game. Because it smells like this is not the case.
 

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JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
yeah. by the way, I went to your profile and clicked the red button. Argh he is everywhere now.
You poor poor soul, I shall pray that the gods of the internet will show mercy upon thee.
You had to tempt me didn't you. I didn't even know about it, then you said, and I just had to. Might as well play the music to try and overload my senses with pain now.

OT: I don't understand s- Well no, I understand the principle, but personally, I don't understand how it affects people as it does.. I see a model male or female next to any product and immediately think "Ohey a cheap, probably poor product that is trying to sell itself by attaching unrelated erotica"

It doesn't get me interested in it, in fact I find it more awkward than anything, and vaguely insulting. The Witcher I gotta agree, was different, alright it had the sex cards, those were amusing, but frankly they built Geralt as that kind of character anyway, it was believable that he just went around banging everyone.. He was like James Bond of the fantasy world to me, you don't gawk and get angry over it, you laugh and go "OH YOU". Booth babes, especially when tagged onto something unrelated, just seem plain weird, like someone trying to sell potatoes by hiring a model to shelve them in her cleavage.
 

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ThreeKneeNick said:
JaceArveduin said:
ThreeKneeNick said:
Man I wish I knew how that worked. You see a hot girl with nice boobs next to a COD booth or whatever and suddenly you are interested in COD. Wheres the logic? Being a gay male isn't helping me on that matter. ><
In which case, replace the lady with what you'd consider "sexual perfection" Maybe a Calvin Klein model *shrug*

And it makes sense, some people see good looking ladies, and then wonder what the game has to do with said ladies, so they check the game out.
I thought of it like that and it wouldn't work. I'd stare at the model and ignore the product...

Besides, if we're talking of a gaming convention here, everybody is obviously there to check out the games, they don't need models to draw anyone's attention.
You're right, games ARE the reason everybody is there. Which means that the booths have to find some other way to stand out. Some companies choose to sit a bimbo with big tits next to their booth to do this. It's not necessarily about associating the product with the bimbo; it's more about getting your attention in the first place, under the assumption that you're there to check out the video games and will therefore check out their booth after you're done having a look at the flesh.
 

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I'm usually disgusted by boothbabes. In fact, I can't recall an instance I'v ever not been. People putting something I want next to a "babe", and making it obviously clear to me that the "babe" is only there because they want to sell something, just feels like an insult to my intelligence.
"Hey, you're a man! And a gamer! So you must be lonely and never see boobs! So here are boobs, NOW BUY OUR SHIT!".

Fuck. You.