The world just isnt fair

[Dieter Meyer]

Okay, so I was just watching "Norway's got talent" - I usually never watch that show, but it was dinner time and the TV was on...

Anyway! There was something about it that really, really moved me. Turns out, some Romanian guy had come all the way to Norway just to be in the show. He had left his entire family behind, including his wife - although he said he would bring her if he made it in Norway.

This poor soul claims to only have 1 friend in Norway, which is his boss. He makes his living carrying copymachines. Yet, he is one of the greatest composers I have ever seen.

Now here's the thing, instead of him a 11 year old boy with a nice smile won.
I'm not talking about a small prize either, he won nearly 100 000 USD.

Now, what I'm trying to say here is that it is very, VERY wrong that Rebecca Black can make her living on music, while guys like this have to carry copymachines

EDIT: Just to make one thing slightly more clear, he composes the whole play himself... not just the piano part.

(You can skip to 1:10 before he actually starts playing)

Sure, the 11 year old who danced was a god on the dancefloor. But we're talking about a grown up man who left everything to come to Norway and try to finally get his breakthrough vs a little spoiled Norwegian boy.

2.EDIT: Lots of people seem to be playing the "Dont put all your hopes on a talent show, lolz" card. This really isnt what it is about in the end... Sure, it makes me sad that he didnt win, but what REALLY makes me sad is that this guy is carrying copymachines while people like Rebecca Black are living off their "music".

 

[Thaluikhain]

A talent competition seems an odd choice to point out the inequalities of the world.

Sure, the 11 year old who danced was a god on the dancefloor. But we're talking about a grown up man who left everything to come to Norway and try to finally get his breakthrough vs a little spoiled Norwegian boy.

Um...so?

The show is there to select those people who are deemed to have talent, not those who are deemed to have had a hard life. It being a talent show, not a charity.

Now, if it was a charity that gave money to who danced the best, that would be obviously wrong.

 

[manythings]

And people would vote for Sarah Palin out of Morbid curiousity about what she would do in the White House. People are weird.

If it's any consolation a pattern in Ireland and england for those shows has been the winner going nowhere and runners up having real careers.

 

[DarkSaber]

Moral of the story: Don't bet everything in your life on winning some bloody annoyng "talent" show.

 

[Super Six One]

If he is that good, someone will pick him up and he will make money. Just because he didn't win a "talent" show doen't mean he won't make money. I'm sure someone in the music buisness will have been watching and pick him up sharpish.

 

[zarix2311]

That's without a doubt, the most depressing things I EVER seen in my life!

 

[TriggerHappyAngel]

So I should win a singing contest if my life is a mess?

 

[jakko12345]

Wow, he was quite brilliant indeed. But cmon now it's insert country's got talent. This show is complete trash wherever you look, and the judges are hardly able to pass judgement on talent. I mean David Hasselhof is a judge for fuck sake.

 

[.No.]

... And? You just said in the title that the world isn't fair. This is sad, but the world isn't fair. Besides, someone else will give him money to make a CD.

 

[emeraldrafael]

You're just realizing the world isnt fiar?

do you know how many people have sad stories like that and left their home? they shouldnt win based on sympathy. Now this man is extremely talented, but so was the kid, and REALLY, who did you think was going to win? the scraggily looking older man, or the youthful smiling dancing lad? if anything, go and tell every Norwegian person you see that they just treated this man unjustly and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Also, unless 100K american is a lot in Norway, thats not really a lot. especially if your government does what ours does where they take out some and leave you with like 66% of it (if that, you may actually get less).

Point: dont put all your hopes in a televised talent show.

besides, making it this far probably means someone saw him that may want to help him, and make him rich if he is that good.

 

[lovest harding]

And people would vote for Sarah Palin out of Morbid curiousity about what she would do in the White House. People are weird.

If it's any consolation a pattern in Ireland and england for those shows has been the winner going nowhere and runners up having real careers.

That actually tends to be the thing with American Idol. There are several people who have won and sold well, but there's a lot of second place winners (whether good or not) that seem to have pulled out solid careers.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Life isn't fair. If you haven't learned that then I fell sad for you because one day life is going to shit all over you and you're going to have no ability to deal with it. On top of that, a fair judge does not let personal emotional feelings get int he way of his judgement. If one contestant is better then another then he wins, it does not matter how sad a sob story you give, its a contest to see who's best not who deserves it the most. Yeah its a sad story, but that doesn't mean the world is going to bend over for you.

 

[KrubixCube]

Man, Norway's got talent straight up puts composers on there? Bitchin'

This is my only contribution.

 

[HardkorSB]

Okay, so I was just watching "Norway's got talent" - I usually never watch that show, but it was dinner time and the TV was on...

Anyway! There was something about it that really, really moved me. Turns out, some Romanian guy had come all the way to Norway just to be in the show. He had left his entire family behind, including his wife - although he said he would bring her if he made it in Norway.

This poor soul claims to only have 1 friend in Norway, which is his boss. He makes his living carrying copymachines. Yet, he is one of the greatest composers I have ever seen.

Now here's the thing, instead of him a 11 year old boy with a nice smile won.
I'm not talking about a small prize either, he won nearly 100 000 USD.

Now, what I'm trying to say here is that it is very, VERY wrong that Rebecca Black can make her living on music, while guys like this have to carry copymachines

(You can skip to 1:10 before he actually starts playing)

Sure, the 11 year old who danced was a god on the dancefloor. But we're talking about a grown up man who left everything to come to Norway and try to finally get his breakthrough vs a little spoiled Norwegian boy.

I don't want to offend you or anything but... just kidding, I totally want to piss you off.

Few problems with your post:
You say that "a boy with a nice smile won", diminishing his dancing abilities.
Then you proceed to call him spoiled, even though:
a) you don't know him
b) you don't watch the show (as you've stated in your post)
When you talk about the pianist, you point out his "tragic life story", as if that mattered at all in determining who is a better performer and entertainer and who can sell themselves more (which is what shows are about). As I recall, these shows are already pretty big on "tragic life stories" so I think that part of why the pianist has made it to the finals was that.
You also try to make a statement about the current state of the music industry (I think), while not really understanding what it takes to get into the industry.
You really have to "sell your soul", dedicate all of your time and money to promote yourself, make yourself visible to the people who already are in the music industry. You have to make "friends" in the industry, which ultimately means kissing a lot of ass in the process.
If you play and compose in private than no matter how good you are, you won't make it because nobody will hear it.

However, I think that thanks to through show, the pianist promoted himself enough to get the attention of the music industry. Now it's only a matter of how he will play it.
I also think that the kid won't have much of a career after this. Partially because there are tons of better dancers than him (even in his age group) and partially because he's just taking moves from other, much better dancers (which is a probably the biggest "crime" in the dancing community). He has some skills though and he can be really good in the future but if he really wants a career as a dancer, there's much work ahead of him.

That's what I think.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

My problem with the entire thing is that most of the votes come from the "But he'll be so sad if he loses and he's CUUTE!!1"-thing. Since when were all above the age of 10 emotionless robots?

That said, it's also stupid to leave everything to enter a talentshow.
Conclusion: Talentshows are stupid, /thread.

 

[mjc0961]

Sure, the 11 year old who danced was a god on the dancefloor. But we're talking about a grown up man who left everything to come to Norway and try to finally get his breakthrough vs a little spoiled Norwegian boy.

It's a talent show, not a "whoever sacrificed the most to appear here gets the money" show. Plus, second place is still good. It'll still get him some attention and things might happen for the guy regardless. It happens all the time.

And no, the world isn't fair. We all already knew this. This just seems like you whining that a talent show should be judged on the competitor's life stories first and their talent second. Even you claimed that the boy was a "god on the dance floor", implying that you thought the boy was indeed quite talented as well. Well, too bad. It would be more upsetting if the talent show was judged based on life stories, as it becomes unfair to the 11 year old who is too young to have a life story like the one the other guy had.

 

[Dieter Meyer]

I don't want to offend you or anything but... just kidding, I totally want to piss you off.

Few problems with your post:
You say that "a boy with a nice smile won", diminishing his dancing abilities.
Then you proceed to call him spoiled, even though:
a) you don't know him
b) you don't watch the show (as you've stated in your post)
When you talk about the pianist, you point out his "tragic life story", as if that mattered at all in determining who is a better performer and entertainer and who can sell themselves more (which is what shows are about). As I recall, these shows are already pretty big on "tragic life stories" so I think that part of why the pianist has made it to the finals was that.
You also try to make a statement about the current state of the music industry (I think), while not really understanding what it takes to get into the industry.
You really have to "sell your soul", dedicate all of your time and money to promote yourself, make yourself visible to the people who already are in the music industry. You have to make "friends" in the industry, which ultimately means kissing a lot of ass in the process.
If you play and compose in private than no matter how good you are, you won't make it because nobody will hear it.

However, I think that thanks to through show, the pianist promoted himself enough to get the attention of the music industry. Now it's only a matter of how he will play it.
I also think that the kid won't have much of a career after this. Partially because there are tons of better dancers than him (even in his age group) and partially because he's just taking moves from other, much better dancers (which is a probably the biggest "crime" in the dancing community). He has some skills though and he can be really good in the future but if he really wants a career as a dancer, there's much work ahead of him.

That's what I think.

I'm just going to answer these "problems" you found, since you are so eager to piss me off
1. I said "a boy with a nice smile won" - yes, because (as EternalFacepalm said pretty well below you) most people just vote for him simply because of HIS background, the fact that he's a little kid and everyone feel like they simply must vote for him because he is sooooo cute - and I surely did not diminish is dancing skills (read "Sure, the 11 year old who danced was a god on the dancefloor)

a) No, I dont know the kid. Being from Norway however, I know that Norwegian kids in general are very spoiled. Just by simply looking at the kid you can see he is not from a poor family.
b) No, I dont watch the show because I in general think all these talents competitions are bullshit - see my entire post for why I think this. I just felt the need to /rant about this as it simply is not fair. Now before you come with your cynical "Well kid, life isnt fair get over it." That certainly doesnt mean we cant atleast try to make the world a fair, and good place for everyone.

and this whole thing you say about the music industry, I dont think you know how it works.
The current state it is in: You do some ass kissing and you have a lot of money so that you can pay an agent who fixes you up with a song and some promotion. This whole "selling your soul" is what the kids who are not born with money up to their ears got to do.

I hope this answers the errors you found with my text

PS: If you really wanted to piss me off you could've just written "TL;DR" ^^

 

[dogenzakaminion]

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I saw this as well and was like "WHAAAT??!!" Moronic voters ruining everything. Not that the kd was bad but doesn't raw talent and sob story beat cute? Anyway, I think he'll be fine. The show will have gotten him some exposure so I wouldn't feel to bad about, but I agree with you that the whole thing was really sad.

PS: Hvor morsom er ikke Alex Rosens engelsk?

 

[Lilani]

I thought this thread was going to be about the billions of dollars worth of damage have done and hundreds of lives lost in the American midwest due to tornadoes in the past few weeks...but never mind then, guess I'll move along.

 

[Biodeamon]

you know what i'm really sick of? people posting threads about the world being unfair but are only complaining about minor stuff. Worse things happen.