Japan. Only 22 killings involving firearms in 2007. 22 for the entire country. See, strict gun control laws do work.
Things besides guns we should ban to give ourselves the delusion of safety
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Is gun control the thread of the month now?
And why do we need to ban anything? There's a difference between 'regulated and controlled' and 'banned forever.'
And why do we need to ban anything? There's a difference between 'regulated and controlled' and 'banned forever.'
The delusion of safety? Are you saying that in my fat-free, sodium-free, gluten-free, sugar-free, xenon-free, ozone-free, lead-free, heavy metal-free, hermetically sealed, twelve-by-twelve box with chrome finish that I am not somehow safer than you?
Preposterous. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go sanitize my waste receptacle. The damn thing insists on getting dirty.
Preposterous. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go sanitize my waste receptacle. The damn thing insists on getting dirty.
Well, nothing can control random violence or terrorism completely, wouldn't it would be better to be in between rather than none (which is impossible) or all (which is undesirable)?Knobody13 said:
Yea I don't see why people would be opposed to regulating gun ownership. As it stands in some countries any psycho can buy a gun. Over here you need permits for guns. You wouldn't really get a permit for a gun in a city. Only very select rapid response police have guns
That actually depends, there's a guy who owns a big gun shop down in Arizona that has an old AA gun that he lets people fire for... don't remember the price, as it happens XDJonluw said:
Yeah, it seems that way. What, you're not excited to get away from the gender politics again?WaysideMaze said:
Isn't gun control a much better topic to discuss?
Captcha: "think hard"
I don't really need to about this topic, Captcha. I don't care if guns are more strictly regulated, because I don't have one and I don't really see myself ever getting one. Besides, tons of the gun crimes people like to complain about are caused by people with illegal guns anyway, so stricter gun control laws would do little to change that.
You're right we should just give up trying to controlling anything because we can't stop it from happening and resort to anarchy.
Honestly, I just want stronger regulation on guns. Like alcohol, even if I want it banned I know its not going to happen, but I'm still going to voice my opinion and try to get laws passed to limit it. If the laws are there, it deters and it stops some people. It doesn't fix anything, but its better then doing nothing or being silent.
Honestly, I just want stronger regulation on guns. Like alcohol, even if I want it banned I know its not going to happen, but I'm still going to voice my opinion and try to get laws passed to limit it. If the laws are there, it deters and it stops some people. It doesn't fix anything, but its better then doing nothing or being silent.
You'll also reduce the amount of times one can buy to give to their less than respectable friend or cousin. And, an interesting statistic from R&P forums, buried in one of the countless threads on the subject, sadly, would suggest that kind of "acquisition" makes up about a third of firearms that were used in crime.Buretsu said:
Every "illegal" gun was legal at some point (not counting home distillery, of course). "Illegal" guns don't just pop into existance.
But where do you think illegal firearms come from?Buretsu said:
They don't just pop into existence. Every illegal gun has been legal at some point (with the exception of a few that are produced in illegitimate factories).
In a highly regulated market, it's almost impossible to get a hold of illegal firearms unless you want to pay huge amounts of cash for them.
Take Norway for example: We have a high gun ownership rate due to hunting, but firearms can only be acquired through a rather long legal process, and even then the kind of firearms you may buy are restricted, and they all have very limited magazine capacities. I think it was max two rounds or something, but don't quote me on that.
The only ways to get a hold of an illegal gun is to steal it from someone who's acquired it legally (hard to do because gun lockers are mandatory), or smuggling them across the border from some other country (or buying a gun from someone who's done that). Both of those are pretty hard to do, so criminals practically don't use guns at all here. Contrary to popular belief, what gun control does is take guns out of the hands of criminals, while letting people who need guns for legitimate reasons keep their guns.
His neighbours must love him.JaceArveduin said:
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How the hell did I manage to use the exact same wording as this guy?Vegosiux said:
I am not a supporter of banning things. Banning things does not make those things go away and only makes people desire them more. It's the whole 'Forbidden Fruit' phenomenon. I am a supporter a requiring a license to own and operate a gun or any sort of firearm, just like you do a vehicle, which last time I checked is how it is in most areas.
Lemme see...
All and any bladed implements, glass (any shape), vehicles (self propelled, animal propelled, and people propelled), playing video games (but only for extended periods of time while living in an asian country; seriously, how often does any one else manage to game themselves to death? must be something in the water), Over eating, under eating, cancer (non-celestial), Fire, water (puddle size or larger), Alcohol (unless used topically), humans (unless mute and disabled), the wheel, the lever, the wedge, Land animals (with the exception of the gerbil, which is neither large enough nor in the possession of the intelligence or natural weaponry necessary.), electricity, and of course, Time (that son of a ***** has no mercy).
Everything on that partial list has the potential to cause death and should be made illegal. Our children won't stand a chance in life if we don't do something about these horrible dangers!
Oh right, left that off the list. Children.
All and any bladed implements, glass (any shape), vehicles (self propelled, animal propelled, and people propelled), playing video games (but only for extended periods of time while living in an asian country; seriously, how often does any one else manage to game themselves to death? must be something in the water), Over eating, under eating, cancer (non-celestial), Fire, water (puddle size or larger), Alcohol (unless used topically), humans (unless mute and disabled), the wheel, the lever, the wedge, Land animals (with the exception of the gerbil, which is neither large enough nor in the possession of the intelligence or natural weaponry necessary.), electricity, and of course, Time (that son of a ***** has no mercy).
Everything on that partial list has the potential to cause death and should be made illegal. Our children won't stand a chance in life if we don't do something about these horrible dangers!
Oh right, left that off the list. Children.