sorry about this post kind of just messed up on trying to respond on another persons quote and had to replace it with something else.
Think about it: WORLD PEACE
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War is good, good for technology, good for medicine, good for advances in trauma surgery and in a way good for learning about other cultures.
World peace, eh, I can probably guess what would happen if, say, world peace will be declared tomorrow.
1. World peace declared.
2. World's armies dismantled.
3. Power-hungry opportunists secretly individually raise militias.
4. Opportunists easily conquer various parts of the world.
5. New-found nations, not being particularly commited to the idea of peace, declare war on other nations.
6. World war declared.
So then, without a full change in the nature of human personality I don't think world peace is feasible.
1. World peace declared.
2. World's armies dismantled.
3. Power-hungry opportunists secretly individually raise militias.
4. Opportunists easily conquer various parts of the world.
5. New-found nations, not being particularly commited to the idea of peace, declare war on other nations.
6. World war declared.
So then, without a full change in the nature of human personality I don't think world peace is feasible.
The OP must not know that our planets elites (industrial/corporate) don't want many of us to survive in the long run, I am quite positive that they don't mind one damn bit that people are sick and dying, I'm also quite positive that given the chance they see sickness and war as a great way to help with population control. Having all people live long lives does not bode well for them...
UM.... the massive problem I see with this is war isn't something humanity just does and can't help. War is caused by a strong enough belief, something that people will sacrifice everything for (and someone elses everything as well). War is the effect not the cause
But without war we could send all those extra people to Mars (which is the same size as all of Earth's landmasses). And maybe some other planets, too.Karven said:i actually favor War. Its a good way to reduce the worlds population. You might think im stupid or something. But i found out a scary fact. If there wasnt war, our population would have been 4x more than what it is right now. So in a short way, War is a population decreaser. Yesh decreaser is a word now
I do agree with others that world peace is just an illusion, unfortunately. Too many people, too many ideas, too many differences. The only way we can have world peace would be if we were all destroyed or were all turned into clones somehow. Neither of those sound very appealing.
What are you talking about?JWW said:
"War has changed."
LolSnake. No but seriously, I always kinda wondered that too. The sad thing is, like people have said, it's not going to happen - it's in humans to fight, it's an instinct. If someone's breaking into your house, you can't just politely ask them to leave. If they don't run, you're going to have to fight them if you come face to face with them. It's just something we have to live with.
Yes, but if we can eliminate them with laughable efficiency every time we see them when we're using B-2s, I would call it worth it. Seems to me a world war is around the corner... People just don't want to acknowledge it.the Dept of Science said:
Indeed. Duke Nukem Forever would sooner come out.SimuLord said:
Wait...
God dammit.
But yeah, for humanity to unite we would have to, well unite. And we hate each other, so yeah. Only way we'd unite is if some common enemy tried to kill us all, and even then we would fight over who should lead.
Well to establish world peace first war needs to change back to the way it used to be when other countries would not just occupy each other but actually invade and take over. The United States for example should take over Iraq and Afghanistan and make them part of the country permanently. And one country should just take over the world and hold it in a state of peace forcefully. Then we would have world peace(not counting a few rebellions and terrorists).
Exactly! Peace would degrade into anarchy, which would then assemble into an inconceivable number of semi-coherent groups, which would assemble into armies, then nations, then everyone would just fight and world peace would have been the cause for the greatest, most confusing war the world has ever seen.Iron Lightning said:
Yeah, we'll defeat the aliens with our *super advanced weaponry.* Think about that for a second.
Anyways, war and competition is actually incredibly vital to bettering society. Why do you think Europe (and by extension, America) turned out to be the top world superpower? Because that continent has pretty much been at war for the last 3000 years.
Anyways, war and competition is actually incredibly vital to bettering society. Why do you think Europe (and by extension, America) turned out to be the top world superpower? Because that continent has pretty much been at war for the last 3000 years.
As far as I'm concerned humanity will always fight for power, resources, or because someone else is pissing them off. As for aliens I really hope we don't get found because if they are anything like us it would end up just like Cortez and the Aztecs, or Columbus and the new world, or Americans and the Natives Americans, etc. Either wiped out, enslaved or both.
YES!!! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING SINCE THE WAR STARTED!FortheLegion said:
I consider you, sir, a patriot.
World peace is only achievable when a select few sides hold the big sticks.
If you look at deaths in the world before WWII (from small conflicts and the like) you see a drastic difference after the cold war began. In a way the nuclear weapon brought more peace than every long haired moccasin wearing hippie combined.
So I think the real question is if World peace is unobtainable what is the best way to hold onto what we have now?
If you look at deaths in the world before WWII (from small conflicts and the like) you see a drastic difference after the cold war began. In a way the nuclear weapon brought more peace than every long haired moccasin wearing hippie combined.
So I think the real question is if World peace is unobtainable what is the best way to hold onto what we have now?
Have you ever heard the saying that too many people doing the same job slows you down?
If you have a million people all working together to screw in a single light bulb, you've got 999 999 too many people for the job.
If you had an extra 45 billion dollars to do all the tests in the world that takes just 10 million to do them, you've wasted 44 990 000 000 dollars.
Cures and medicinal advancements is slowed down by live testing. Sometimes pills and medicine takes months or years to see their final results. A billion dollars doesn't change that.
The money could be better spent on non-war related things. Schools, education, poverty - But in REALITY Country B says I want your resource A, Country A cannot afford to share, you've got a war.
Two large forces fighting over a small piece of food for survival. Neither can live without and there isn't enough to share. A real cure for war would be less humans. How do you get less humans? They die. How do they die? War. It balances itself out. Equilibrium!
There's a finite amount of resources. When humans exceed their population, we self-kill each other until all humans can live comfortably. Then they repopulate, over-populate and war becomes inevitable once again.
What's the cure to this? Oppression of sexual freedom. Selective breeding. Give certain people of specific skills, talents or other genetically favorable traits the right to breed and sterilize the rest of the population. Rather Hitler-esque thinking, actually.
Either way, we control Earth's human population to a specific number. Only the best of the best breed creating favorable human offspring (intelligence, strength, health).
Or war. Generally the weak, stupid and slow die sooner anyway. None of it's pretty but it's evolution.
If you have a million people all working together to screw in a single light bulb, you've got 999 999 too many people for the job.
If you had an extra 45 billion dollars to do all the tests in the world that takes just 10 million to do them, you've wasted 44 990 000 000 dollars.
Cures and medicinal advancements is slowed down by live testing. Sometimes pills and medicine takes months or years to see their final results. A billion dollars doesn't change that.
The money could be better spent on non-war related things. Schools, education, poverty - But in REALITY Country B says I want your resource A, Country A cannot afford to share, you've got a war.
Two large forces fighting over a small piece of food for survival. Neither can live without and there isn't enough to share. A real cure for war would be less humans. How do you get less humans? They die. How do they die? War. It balances itself out. Equilibrium!
There's a finite amount of resources. When humans exceed their population, we self-kill each other until all humans can live comfortably. Then they repopulate, over-populate and war becomes inevitable once again.
What's the cure to this? Oppression of sexual freedom. Selective breeding. Give certain people of specific skills, talents or other genetically favorable traits the right to breed and sterilize the rest of the population. Rather Hitler-esque thinking, actually.
Either way, we control Earth's human population to a specific number. Only the best of the best breed creating favorable human offspring (intelligence, strength, health).
Or war. Generally the weak, stupid and slow die sooner anyway. None of it's pretty but it's evolution.