Thoughts on Season 4, Episode 6 of the Legend of Korra (Spoiler Warning)

[crazygameguy4ever]

So another episode and another review of sorts.. Not a bad episode thought Korra initial unwillingness to fight seems dumb. I know she's trying to find ways to settle things in peaceful ways now, but considering Kuvira has forcibly taking over the earth kingdom, declared herself ruler and then captured the ruler of the city of Zaofu She shoudl have fought fro mthe get go.. the biggest thing thought was what Kuvira did while they were fighting.. she cancelled out Korra's avatar state with her own glowing avatar state eyes.. WTF? I don't get that whole thing.. i guess they'll explain what that was about in the next episode but seriously.. how did Kuvira have the glowing eyes of the Avatar state and cancel out Korra's avatar state.. makes no sense how either thing was was possible.. can't wait till next weeks episode to find out what the heck was going on. beyond that WTF moment, there was good mostly one-sided fight and the whole thing with Varrik blowing up the train and hey were both good, much better then last week's episode .

So what does everyone else think of this week's episode and does any one have any thoughts on the whole glowing avatar state eyes Kuvira had and how she cancelled out Korra's avatar state?

 

[LarsInCharge]

It was an illusion. Korra is scared of her own power and the responsibility that comes with it. She saw her own "Shadow Korra" in Kuvira, and that stopped her cold.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

It was an illusion. Korra is scared of her own power and the responsibility that comes with it. She saw her own "Shadow Korra" in Kuvira, and that stopped her cold.

I guess that's possible.. but it looked, like Kuvira had her own avatar state eyes.. I thought the whole illusion of her self was over after she got rid of the last of the poison in her system

 

[GodofDisaster]

Spoiler

Just finished watching the episode, I do agree Korra's refusal to fight at first is weird. But I believe it's because she's trying to take problems from a diplomatic approach, rather than act as an enforcer.

As for the glowing avatar eyes Kuvira displayed, I don't think that's avatar power, but rather just an image Korra saw. In my own personal opinion, I believe that despite the poison leaving her body, she is still mentally unstable from the fight against Zaheer. And the whole, (holy fucking shit I almost died, I don't think I can do this anymore.) That must be running through her head. In other words she's terrified of fighting seriously now.

Also god damn is Varrick a bad ass, never would have guessed he had in him. The whole train exploding, during the scene I was thinking. Yeah this is obvious, he won't do it. The guards and Baatar Jr will leave the train and it will turn out that the timer is just a bluff, and there is no bomb. But nope he really did it.

Final thoughts, overall great episode, starting to really despise Kuvira, she's a good villain yes, but she reminds me of Azula, gains followers through fear and threats, but instead of moving on a path of destruction, Kuvira is moving on a path of peace, well least that's what she calls it.

Also I know this isn't related to the episode just my own prediction on Kuvira's eventual defeat, but I can see Kuvira suffering Azula's fate, or something similar. Her followers will leave her, she'll delve into madness and breakdown crying has she loses everything.

 

[LarsInCharge]

It was an illusion. Korra is scared of her own power and the responsibility that comes with it. She saw her own "Shadow Korra" in Kuvira, and that stopped her cold.

I guess that's possible.. but it looked, like Kuvira had her own avatar state eyes.. I thought the whole illusion of her self was over after she got rid of the last of the poison in her system

It was as seen from Korra's perspective. While the poison is gone, she is still haunted by her defeats, her fears, and the potential that the world doesn't need her anymore. Or even that she wants the world to need her at all.

The whole season is about her recovery from trauma. She got the physical out of the way. Now she needs to heal the mental and emotional trauma from her season ending battles.

 

[SpinnokDurav]

It was an illusion. Korra is scared of her own power and the responsibility that comes with it. She saw her own "Shadow Korra" in Kuvira, and that stopped her cold.

I guess that's possible.. but it looked, like Kuvira had her own avatar state eyes.. I thought the whole illusion of her self was over after she got rid of the last of the poison in her system

It was as seen from Korra's perspective. While the poison is gone, she is still haunted by her defeats, her fears, and the potential that the world doesn't need her anymore. Or even that she wants the world to need her at all.

The whole season is about her recovery from trauma. She got the physical out of the way. Now she needs to heal the mental and emotional trauma from her season ending battles.

You can also see Korra's old hairstyle when Kuvira has the whole glowing eyes thing going on. When she had longer hair in those blue things. So it's Korra projecting her PTSD on Kuvira, at least that's what I call it. Also, I think the throwback to Amon shook her up, I mean the equality thing Kuvira mentioned. I'm sorry that I cannot explain it better, I'm not particularly in the know about hairstyles and English isn't my first language.

That being said, I really disliked the fight between Korra and Kuvira. I don't like one-sided fights, regardless of which side wins. This was the first time ever I yelled at a cartoon character for being stupid. I mean Korra's fighting style was just plain dumb. It consisted of only attacking with the different elements, with almost no strategy. It's like she hasn't learned anything (fighting wise, I mean) from the previous seasons.

As a general aside, do you guys like how the mechs look? They remind me of those old 3d cartoons which try to look realistic like Action Man. I don't really like the look of them.

 

[mmmikey]

It's nice to see Korra try to talk things out before launching into a fight. I thought it the creators were going to give us an enemy that couldn't be talked to or reasoned with and Korra would reluctantly have to fight. But they didn't leave a whole lot in exchange of words before they decided to duke it out for the fate of the city.

I feel like with the show it's a lot of two steps forward one step back. I thought there was no way Su would rush headlong into kidnapping or fighting Kuvira. She has to know that Kuvira is just as skilled if not more so than she is. And that she really believed that the army would stand down and disperse because they had Kuvira.

The scene of the kids painting was a jarring breakaway. The show had better space for comedy from Varrick & Bolin. Varrick seems to be the only recurring character I have yet to see suffer from poor writing. Even when he's in the background like season three he's doing fantastic things. Def feel like this show pretty much telegraphed that Zhu Li will switch sides after some begging from Varrick.

The fight was a little lackluster for me on the heels of the awesome mech & lavabending fight of the last episode. I personally don't like the hallucination of nega-Korra to be what stopped her. I'd rather it be her not wanting the fight to end in what looked to be a grisly/deadly end. But the true source of her hesitation I'm sure will be the focus of the next episode(s).

 

[Scarim Coral]

Yeah it look like Korra still got her inner demon to sort out (her fear was projected onto Kuvira face, not Kuvira having the Avatar state!). Honestly if she was fully intune with the Avatar state, I would LOVED to see her metalbend the crap out of Kuvira and her army! Being tie to one element (well two including Earth) would be fatal to a full powered Avatar or better yet have Toph come along to show them who is the original metalbender!!!

Also I starting to think Varrick is Tony Stark in their world and it's pretty clear that Jr got some kind of acknowledgement issue with his pa which I again would loved to see the spirit bomb explode in his face so that be he is trap in some kind of a spirit turmoil (man I starting to sound sinister)! Sure Zhi Li look unfazed by Varrick supposely "death2 but I still believe she is faking it since I don't think she liked it that she was used as bait for Suyin (she is good at hiding her emotion).

Lastly that other kid of Suyin would make a great art teacher and Meelo painting was the funniest part of the episode!

 

[LarsInCharge]

Kuvira still strikes me as a poor man's Azula. The short seasons really hurt her development as more than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

she cancelled out Korra's avatar state with her own glowing avatar state eyes.. WTF? I don't get that whole thing.. i guess they'll explain what that was about in the next episode but seriously.. how did Kuvira have the glowing eyes of the Avatar state and cancel out Korra's avatar state.. makes no sense how either thing was was possible.. can't wait till next weeks episode to find out what the heck was going on.

I haven't watched the episode yet. I haven't even watched the past two episodes, so now I'm three episodes behind. However, I will offer a different theory than it's just Korra haven't flashback trauma.

What if that is what Varrick was working on? A way for Kuvira to gain the spirit power that that Avatar can easily tap in to? If any old person could suddenly gain Avatar-level power, that would certainly 'change everything' as Varrick said. It would also help to build Kuvira's reputation. She is just as strong as the Avatar now, so of course she's the right choice to lead. Perhaps Varrick found a way to transfer the spirit energy from the plants into a person, and Kuvira took the first dose. We already know that she's a good tactical genius, so she must have known that she'd go up against the Avatar eventually, so her coming up with an ace in the hole isn't beyond her.

Of course, if this turns out to be true, than we already know how Kuvira is going to go down. The potion she took will end up having some really nasty side effects and 'poof,' no more Kuvira.

This is just a theory based on what you and others have said in the thread. I tried to watch some episodes earlier, but my computer kept locking up on Nick.com. Sounds like I'm missing some pretty good stuff.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Zhu Li is going to betray Kuvira, I can see it coming from miles away. My question is, was it something Varrick planned to turn her into a sleeper agent for him, or Zhu Li just taking it upon herself to protect Varrick because hes an eccentric who can never manage to keep himself safe?

Im hoping that next episode Korra goes back to the swamp to train with Toph, Korra seems to need to hone her skills again properly instead of just rushing into combat with the bad guy. Kuviras like the Avatars version of The Dark Knights Bane, she beat Korra when she rushed into combat with her easily because she wasnt ready.

 

[TheGrandSage23]

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Kuvira still strikes me as a poor man's Azula. The short seasons really hurt her development as more than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain.

Not even

Kuvira> Azula

 

[manic_depressive13]

I can't get over how fucking annoying Meelo is, and am baffled that no one else seems to mention it. He's completely unbearable and basically ruins every episode he's in. His prominence is by far the biggest issue I have with this season. I feel like they really missed the mark with the humour in LoK. There are still some funny bits, especially from Varrick, but the bits that make me cringe far outweigh them.

 

[LarsInCharge]

Not even

Kuvira> Azula

Kuvira needed an army to take an unarmed fractured kingdom.

Azula took the only city in the world never conquered, even by the most brilliant Fire Nation generals, with 2 kids, a disgraced prince, and a handful of Dai Li.

Kuvira tried and failed to kill an emotionally wrecked weakened Avatar.

Azula KILLED the Avatar... in the Avatar State.

Kuvira's best battle was fighting off 10 earth bending bandits.

Azula's best battle was fighting Sokka, Toph, Katara, Aang, Zuko and Iroh AT THE SAME TIME TO A DRAW.

Enemies surrender to Kuvira.

Azula's enemies surrender to THEIR MORTAL ENEMIES BECAUSE SURRENDERING TO AZULA WOULD BE WORSE.

 

[LarsInCharge]

I can't get over how fucking annoying Meelo is, and am baffled that no one else seems to mention it. He's completely unbearable and basically ruins every episode he's in. His prominence is by far the biggest issue I have with this season. I feel like they really missed the mark with the humour in LoK. There are still some funny bits, especially from Varrick, but the bits that make me cringe far outweigh them.

Oh, people point it out, but they pointed it out when there was an entire episode with him. Yes, he's the worst part of the season, but we know that.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

she cancelled out Korra's avatar state with her own glowing avatar state eyes.. WTF? I don't get that whole thing.. i guess they'll explain what that was about in the next episode but seriously.. how did Kuvira have the glowing eyes of the Avatar state and cancel out Korra's avatar state.. makes no sense how either thing was was possible.. can't wait till next weeks episode to find out what the heck was going on.

I haven't watched the episode yet. I haven't even watched the past two episodes, so now I'm three episodes behind. However, I will offer a different theory than it's just Korra haven't flashback trauma.

What if that is what Varrick was working on? A way for Kuvira to gain the spirit power that that Avatar can easily tap in to? If any old person could suddenly gain Avatar-level power, that would certainly 'change everything' as Varrick said. It would also help to build Kuvira's reputation. She is just as strong as the Avatar now, so of course she's the right choice to lead. Perhaps Varrick found a way to transfer the spirit energy from the plants into a person, and Kuvira took the first dose. We already know that she's a good tactical genius, so she must have known that she'd go up against the Avatar eventually, so her coming up with an ace in the hole isn't beyond her.

Of course, if this turns out to be true, than we already know how Kuvira is going to go down. The potion she took will end up having some really nasty side effects and 'poof,' no more Kuvira.

This is just a theory based on what you and others have said in the thread. I tried to watch some episodes earlier, but my computer kept locking up on Nick.com. Sounds like I'm missing some pretty good stuff.

You can try watching the episodes on www.watchcartoonsonline.com like I do or wait since Nicktoons has been having advertisements saying that it's going to be airing the fourth Season of the Legend of Korra pretty soon