IamLEAM1983 said:
If you want to talk about entitlement in the sense you're considering, think back on the Mass Effect 3 debacle. The original ending works - it's just not great. The game isn't unplayable because of the ending; it's just disappointing. *That* is gamer entitlement, as BioWare is only guilty of biting off more than they ever could possibly chew. Organic narratives that are completely shaped by the player's actions?
Sorry, BioWare. We're not in the United Federation of Planets yet, and don't have functioning holodecks.
In exactly the same way that the Aliens:Colonial Marines debacle was "gamer entitlement", right? Because if you classify the ME3 situation as such you must surely classify the Aliens situation in the same way:
Both made a commitment in advance to how the game was going to be (in Bioware's case through interview statements and promises, in Gearbox's through demo videos) and then it turned out to be lies.
No more, no less. The situations were the same. Companies promised one thing and delivered another, lying to customers all the way. I find it absolutely disgusting that people are happy to dismiss one but later feel they are "righteously angry" over the other. Double standards. Either lying about your product to dupe people into buying it is acceptable or it isn't; its not on a case-by-case basis.
In fact arguably the Gearbox's defence of Aliens is stronger because as we all know "demos are not representative of the finished product". Whereas various senior people involved in ME3 were caught outright lying about things they were answering as "facts" about the game in interviews.
Interesting viewpoint of yours that holding a company responsible for the commitments it makes to draw in customers, only to hoodwink them, is apparently being entitled.
I'm also vaguely amused at how people are under the impression that "if we get thousands of people to sign up then we'll show them the force of our opinion" whereas the significantly higher numbers for the ME3 situation was apparently an insignificant amount. Yet more double standards. At most I expect a token gesture, just like how they did for ME3.
I do somewhat sympathise with people who are having these problems. However for the many people who went on and on about "entitled children" during the ME3 problems and are now suffering over Aliens and SimCity...well the schadenfreude is delicious.
Reply if you wish, I probably won't see it. I rarely read the same thread twice on here. Suffice to say I'm very pleased that people are starting to wake up a little; but its still ridiculous that it had to get this bad before many noticed (and some are STILL clinging to the idea that its "entitled" to want a working game that is as described by the developers, rather than lies).
