To all you Non American English speaking people out there
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Welsh characters, or, more accurately, the lack thereof.
Seriously, can anyone think of a Welsh character that originates in a game or movie from outside the UK - they don't exist! We're fucking drowning in the endless tide of Scottish, English and even Irish stereotypes, but if you said "Wales" to anyone outside the UK, they'd probably think you were talking about the fish (yeah, I know, "Marine Mammal", but they'd think it was a fish, because they're a strawman and therefore dumb) The only one I can think of is Welshie from Futurama (Welshie! Noooooooooooooooooo!), the only other ones TVTropes lists is some X-man and anime I haven't heard of...
Also, Finnish characters who nonsensically have "Swedish" accents. That's just not doing the research. Double not doing the research, actually, because Finnish people sound even less like Swedish people than Swedish people sound like German people!
Seriously, can anyone think of a Welsh character that originates in a game or movie from outside the UK - they don't exist! We're fucking drowning in the endless tide of Scottish, English and even Irish stereotypes, but if you said "Wales" to anyone outside the UK, they'd probably think you were talking about the fish (yeah, I know, "Marine Mammal", but they'd think it was a fish, because they're a strawman and therefore dumb) The only one I can think of is Welshie from Futurama (Welshie! Noooooooooooooooooo!), the only other ones TVTropes lists is some X-man and anime I haven't heard of...
Also, Finnish characters who nonsensically have "Swedish" accents. That's just not doing the research. Double not doing the research, actually, because Finnish people sound even less like Swedish people than Swedish people sound like German people!
Yeah no one gets American accents wrong...for the last time Jeff Foxworthy is from Georgia not Texas. I'm a woman and I've never reached a pitch that high.
ooo, ooo, been playing deus ex recently, the bit where you go in the nightclub underground in Hong Kong, there are 2 girls who ask you to pay for them to get in the club. So I did. Now; Despite the blonde saying they are BOTH Australian, the other girl had a distinct cockney accent (think Daphne Moon in Frasier), says "fanks fer gettin' me in!".
Worst. Australian. Accent. Ever.
Or anyone in Far Cry 2.
Worst. Australian. Accent. Ever.
Or anyone in Far Cry 2.
The feminine "generic English" accent pisses me right off. You know the one, that horrific parody-like posh accent used by American actresses to indicate "I'm English don't you know, what what pip pip" in every SitCom in the history of the world ever (and many other genres too, RomComs are also pretty bad for it). Doesn't even resemble a true "posh" accent either, and now some Americans think not only some but *all* English women actually talk like that. Also ignores, of course, the fact that the British isles have an absurdly high density of distinct accents and dialects - there are parts of Wales where people can identify a person as having grown up in the next *village*, only 3 miles away, because the accent is sufficiently different to distinguish.
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As for TF2 - as someone has already pointed out, the accents are very exaggerated - I read somewhere that they are deliberately characaturised, particularly the Sniper who is "fake Australian" and keeps slipping into something more like English. The same source suggested this in particular is a parody of how many Americans confuse those two.
If anyone's sufficiently interested in British accents to try and learn, I recommend finding samples to compare of "Scouse", "Cockney" and "Brummie" (Liverpool, London and Birmingham respectively). I'll admit that outside England I couldn't identify more specific than Scottish/Irish/Welsh, but you could try Glasgow, Cork and Cardiff (see if you can tell which is which).
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As for TF2 - as someone has already pointed out, the accents are very exaggerated - I read somewhere that they are deliberately characaturised, particularly the Sniper who is "fake Australian" and keeps slipping into something more like English. The same source suggested this in particular is a parody of how many Americans confuse those two.
If anyone's sufficiently interested in British accents to try and learn, I recommend finding samples to compare of "Scouse", "Cockney" and "Brummie" (Liverpool, London and Birmingham respectively). I'll admit that outside England I couldn't identify more specific than Scottish/Irish/Welsh, but you could try Glasgow, Cork and Cardiff (see if you can tell which is which).
I'm not a big fan of when Australian actors are cast as supposedly British people. I know most americans cant tell the difference (craploads of people seem to think zaeed from ME2, despite his strong london accent, is an aussie) but everyone else can and it's really bloody jarring.
Heh.Daverson said:
Oh...nobody seems to have mentioned how all vampires, or at least the Romanian ones, have to speak with a Hungarian accent, cause Bela Lugosi used his natural accent way back when, and everyone seems to have thought he was putting it on?
Sorry. Just listing some of the more well known accents without thinking about it too carefully. That's the kind of thing that happens when you don't actually spend much time anywhere near the areas these accents come from.pilkman said:
I think I was trying to mention Liverpool and Manchester respectively. But a side effect of moving a lot is knowing less than you would expect about ALL the countries I've lived in.
No, I haven't played Dead Island at all. Though I'm honestly not surprised they messed up the accents.Miles000 said:
I mean, just looking at or hearing any description of Purna makes me cringe. Just what exactly is she supposed to be anyway, because very little about her appearance or biography makes all that much sense.
Given the lack of research that character seems to imply, having horribly done Australian accents to go with it... Well, that figures.
(As a weird point of interest, despite having been born in Australia, and lived there on and off for half my life... I can't do any accent that sounds remotely Australian. - Actually, I don't seem to sound like I'm from any country I've ever lived in. I have no idea how that works, but I blame too much TV. XD)
