Dragonbums said:
So I'm guessing your either picking and choosing which examples you want to count as legitimate or you missed the numerous times I and many others have listed ranging from Birdo to the Beauty trainer in Pokemon X and Y of examples of Nintendo implementing non offensive LGBTQ characters into their game with no problems either from their respective fans or Japan in general.
No, you're assuming out of convenience.
I have actually addressed those characters before, by the way. I'm assuming you're also "picking and choosing" which of my posts to acknowledge out of convenience. You happened to choose an intentionally glib one rather than a serious address of the subject.
But you still haven't explained how that proves your assurance they're fine with gay people.
Saint Ganondorf said:
I'd agree it's hard to say. I suppose we'll just have to wait to see if it gets modded in. Which I'd bet on.
I agree. I'd be rather surprised to not see a mod. But it could happen.
Strain42 said:
A. I never said I'd be badmouthed by you specifically. I was speaking in a general sense. Now whose misinterpreting posts?
Yes, your use of quotes in a direct response leaves up so much for interpretation. If I misinterpreted, it was a communication error on your end.
B. Even if we were to assume I was talking about you specifically, you did just say I was part of the problem, when you know absolutely nothing about me, my stance, or my actions regarding the issues, which could quite easily be taken as badmouthing. But I forgive you. Misunderstandings happen, no point in dwelling on them.
Well, if you want to take personal offense at a fact, I'm powerless to stop you. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
I show nothing but support for the LGBTQ community. I have many gay friends, I have gay family, I support them. I have attended meetings, provided counseling, signed petitions, cast actual government votes and even given money in support of this.
You realise the Archie Bunker justification of "I have X friends" holds no water, right? I neither care nor can I verify your glorious pro-gay stance.
So yes, I admit that when something like this comes up and I see people like RatherDull saying stuff like that which somehow implies that if I don't start completely boycotting Nintendo over these events that I'm some sort of bigot, I tend to roll my eyes a bit.
Apparently, you do more than that. You read offense and then go out of your way to justify yourself.
With this Nintendo thing though it wasn't done out of any malice.
Proof, please. I imagine it'd be harder than proving how awesomely pro-gay you are.
It was an oversight, and Nintendo could have admittedly handled it a bit better, I admit that. I'm not gonna stand here with a flame shield up against Nintendo and say they've done no wrong, but I'm gonna go with the assumption that when developing romance options for Tomodachi Life back when nobody could even fathom that it would be localized here that the designers were going "Gay relationships? Not in OUR game! This oughta make our position clear to the Western market!"
Has anyone claimed
that?
The point is if I or anyone else continue to enjoy my 3DS and go pick up a copy of Kirby Triple Deluxe this week, it doesn't put us in some sort of Anti-LGBTQ camp where we actively hold back progress (and to avoid another misunderstanding, I'm not saying that you are implying this. Again, speaking generally)
You sure are bringing up a lot of things you're "not saying." I'm not saying there is some intent to this....
That's my stance on it anyways. If you disagree with me, that's fine. We'll stand on different parts of the field. Someone
People can think of me how they like.
I agree. And if you're going to spend more time justifying how you're totally not part of the problem rather than not being part of the problem, I can think that you're part of the problem. Even if you're in no way anti-gay, because being part of the problem and opposing homosexuality are not the same thing (inherently, anyway).
Here, let's try this again: all US currency is money. All money is not US currency. All Christians are theists. Not all Christians are theists. And all anti-gays are part of the problem. But not all people who are part of the problem are anti-gay.
I won't be swayed though by someone telling me I'm supporting it wrong, just as I don't expect this post to sway anyone who might be reading it into anything.
Well, that's nice, but I doubt anyone was out to convince you. I know, I know, you didn't say that. You're just randomly bringing up these things of absolutely no relevance because....
...No, why are you doing that again? See, most of the time, when we communicate things, there are contextual links. If I were to believe you, your response was instead a loose collection of disparate ideas of no relevance.