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Top 5 Friday: Top 5 Final Fantasy Games
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http://videogamechests.blogspot.com/2011/10/final-fantasy-tifa-lockheart.html
That's the largest version I found.
http://videogamechests.blogspot.com/2011/10/final-fantasy-tifa-lockheart.html
That's the largest version I found.
That ending makes me want to avoid anything by Jovenshire. Seriously, everything after FF8 was bad? FF9 was the game that showed Square had learned what pieces in each of their games were the best and combined that with a genuinely likable lead. It was easily the best Final Fantasy to date, though it did have a lackluster main enemy. FF10 and 12 were both amazing in their own ways and just writing them off as new/different therefore bad reeks of nostalgia goggles.
If I had to list them off
5. FF7
4. FF10
3. FF6
2. FF12
1. FF9
Tactics beats them all, though. That's probably just because tactics ogre is better than final fantasy, though.
If I had to list them off
5. FF7
4. FF10
3. FF6
2. FF12
1. FF9
Tactics beats them all, though. That's probably just because tactics ogre is better than final fantasy, though.
To reiterate my Facebook comment, OP has lost all credibility for me with this whole top 5 "best of the best" Final Fantasy without including 9, It's not just a matter of opinion or personal taste, It's a matter of honesty and being not biased. 9 had everything a GOOD story should have, It's my personal #1 and favorite and despite how infuriated I am with this whole debacle, I know for certain and my judgment is unclouded when say that the reason why OP even listed the top 5 as the top as he did was because those are the ONLY FF games he's played, that, or he decided to pick the most popular ones before IX(and add in IV for "reviewer credibility") and make a list off that. The fact that there are MASSIVE INCONSISTENCIES in his video regarding IV, V and II should make you question whether you should trust this person from hereon.
Even Jim Sterling honored FFIX in one video that tackled how tragedy should be done and how FFIX was the perfect example of it(http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6281-Crying-Through-The-Laughs). To this day, the ending of IX still saddens and disturbs me the same way as watching the last episode of Kino no Tabi does, the fact that Vivi died thinking that Zidane didn't make it still saddens me to no end. A Final Fantasy game giving me something that's truly lasting? How shocking.
Even Jim Sterling honored FFIX in one video that tackled how tragedy should be done and how FFIX was the perfect example of it(http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6281-Crying-Through-The-Laughs). To this day, the ending of IX still saddens and disturbs me the same way as watching the last episode of Kino no Tabi does, the fact that Vivi died thinking that Zidane didn't make it still saddens me to no end. A Final Fantasy game giving me something that's truly lasting? How shocking.
5. 10 (bad characters, fun game though)
4. Tactics (best story of all of them)
3. 12 (Vaan aside(and he wasnt the main character, basch and ashe were) great characters and really fun gameplay)
2. 13 (Most will disagree with me on this one, but I thought the gameplay for this one was by far the greatest. I liked the stagger mechanics and paradigm switching)
1. 6 (kefka... need I say more)
I dont care much for 7, didnt like any character save Cid and the story was mediocre at best.
4. Tactics (best story of all of them)
3. 12 (Vaan aside(and he wasnt the main character, basch and ashe were) great characters and really fun gameplay)
2. 13 (Most will disagree with me on this one, but I thought the gameplay for this one was by far the greatest. I liked the stagger mechanics and paradigm switching)
1. 6 (kefka... need I say more)
I dont care much for 7, didnt like any character save Cid and the story was mediocre at best.
Only two games consistently top my list:
#1) Final Fantasy Tactics*
#2) Final Fantasy 6
The rest are a mish-mash that haven't retained as much appeal to me for one reason or another, especially as time has gone on.
#3) FF5 (Job system is great and enables so much variant play. But FFT just does it better.)
#4) FF7 (This is a nostalgic pick, freely admitted. But it's an honest list.)
#5) FF9 (this would be much higher on the list if not for two things: The artstyle, most of which I have never liked. And a few characters who annoyed the shit out of me.)
The rest fall flat for one reason or another but the biggest loss of appeal lies in the loss of character-mechanic relations. In FF6, Terra's unique abilities and attributes are important to her character. To a lesser degree, so are Locke's, Sabin's, Cyan's, Gau's, Strago and Relms'. You see them employ abilities similar to their mechanical role in game, or in passing.
Compare that to FF12:
What do we know about Ashe? She's Royalty who lost her husband and kingdom to war. Is this represented in any way mechanically? Nope. Ashe is as capable a fighter as two street rats with no military training or fighting background, and Basch, a knight and combat veteran. They are not just comparable, they are all directly interchangeable.
It's "Blank Slate" character design; which in a character-driven story, only serves to further divide gameplay from characterization. And that seems counter-intuitive to me, given that marrying mechanics with purpose is unique to the medium of gaming.
FF6's fusion of these is token at best, but even that small amount of overlap makes it far more believable to me than any game that came after it in the series (even FF9).
*[sub](And if you want to argue about how this is just Tactics Ogre or that it's a spinoff, I kindly suggest you tell someone else because I find no meaningful or practical merit in it. Why? Most of the FF MAIN SERIES aren't even in continuity with each other; related by iconography more than anything, so why should I care if it's a spinoff or not?)[/sub]
#1) Final Fantasy Tactics*
#2) Final Fantasy 6
The rest are a mish-mash that haven't retained as much appeal to me for one reason or another, especially as time has gone on.
#3) FF5 (Job system is great and enables so much variant play. But FFT just does it better.)
#4) FF7 (This is a nostalgic pick, freely admitted. But it's an honest list.)
#5) FF9 (this would be much higher on the list if not for two things: The artstyle, most of which I have never liked. And a few characters who annoyed the shit out of me.)
The rest fall flat for one reason or another but the biggest loss of appeal lies in the loss of character-mechanic relations. In FF6, Terra's unique abilities and attributes are important to her character. To a lesser degree, so are Locke's, Sabin's, Cyan's, Gau's, Strago and Relms'. You see them employ abilities similar to their mechanical role in game, or in passing.
Compare that to FF12:
What do we know about Ashe? She's Royalty who lost her husband and kingdom to war. Is this represented in any way mechanically? Nope. Ashe is as capable a fighter as two street rats with no military training or fighting background, and Basch, a knight and combat veteran. They are not just comparable, they are all directly interchangeable.
It's "Blank Slate" character design; which in a character-driven story, only serves to further divide gameplay from characterization. And that seems counter-intuitive to me, given that marrying mechanics with purpose is unique to the medium of gaming.
FF6's fusion of these is token at best, but even that small amount of overlap makes it far more believable to me than any game that came after it in the series (even FF9).
*[sub](And if you want to argue about how this is just Tactics Ogre or that it's a spinoff, I kindly suggest you tell someone else because I find no meaningful or practical merit in it. Why? Most of the FF MAIN SERIES aren't even in continuity with each other; related by iconography more than anything, so why should I care if it's a spinoff or not?)[/sub]
Well...he seems to be really into the classic FFs...so it's funny he chose to ignore FFIX, a game that really went back to the roots but was still new and fresh and original. And then that comment about how every game after FFVIII sucked...whatever...
But it's true, everyone has a different favorite FF list. So here's mine:
5. FFX: The characters were pretty original and the story/plot twist was rather surprising. It was so good, it was the first FF game to have a direct sequel. But we're not gonna talk about that...
4. FFIV: I actually liked the fact that it felt more like a play or a drama more so than other FFs. I believe most FFs always shoot for a plot like that. Most characters felt like they had a reason to be there, even the kids. And to see the fall and rise of the hero was kind of interesting. At least it didn't take the Cloud route where he sinks into depressio-- anyway, moving on.
3. FFXII: Yeah, so it wasn't as beloved as most FFs but I still liked it. The characters were pretty fleshed out (Except for Vaan and maybe Penelo, and therein lies its failure), the plot about a revolution and villains not being complete dicks was interesting. Sure, it was a LOT like Star Wars but in a different universe with different characters and a different plot...works for me!
2. FFIX: Now this was the one game that felt like I was reading an old story book. From the music to the characters to the locations to the plot. It was all very interesting and made me want to keep playing. No, I didn't finish it a 100% but that's only because I didn't want to do the side quest; I wanted to keep playing so I could find out what happened to the main characters!
1. FFVIII: I guess this is the FF oddball. I just liked the fact they tried to create a contemporary-boderline-futuristic FF game and, like that guy said, the characters, the card game, the plot, the setting, the music, everything made it just an incredible experience for me. Squall was not a depressed character, he was just mellow and careless but when the time comes to step up and become a leader, he doesn't hesitate at all. I could go on and on about this game but I'll stop there...
But it's true, everyone has a different favorite FF list. So here's mine:
5. FFX: The characters were pretty original and the story/plot twist was rather surprising. It was so good, it was the first FF game to have a direct sequel. But we're not gonna talk about that...
4. FFIV: I actually liked the fact that it felt more like a play or a drama more so than other FFs. I believe most FFs always shoot for a plot like that. Most characters felt like they had a reason to be there, even the kids. And to see the fall and rise of the hero was kind of interesting. At least it didn't take the Cloud route where he sinks into depressio-- anyway, moving on.
3. FFXII: Yeah, so it wasn't as beloved as most FFs but I still liked it. The characters were pretty fleshed out (Except for Vaan and maybe Penelo, and therein lies its failure), the plot about a revolution and villains not being complete dicks was interesting. Sure, it was a LOT like Star Wars but in a different universe with different characters and a different plot...works for me!
2. FFIX: Now this was the one game that felt like I was reading an old story book. From the music to the characters to the locations to the plot. It was all very interesting and made me want to keep playing. No, I didn't finish it a 100% but that's only because I didn't want to do the side quest; I wanted to keep playing so I could find out what happened to the main characters!
1. FFVIII: I guess this is the FF oddball. I just liked the fact they tried to create a contemporary-boderline-futuristic FF game and, like that guy said, the characters, the card game, the plot, the setting, the music, everything made it just an incredible experience for me. Squall was not a depressed character, he was just mellow and careless but when the time comes to step up and become a leader, he doesn't hesitate at all. I could go on and on about this game but I'll stop there...
I'm glad that Final Fantasy VI was put above Final Fantasy VII.
Though to be honest, while it is supposedly the "true" best Final Fantasy, my best list would go something like this.
1. Final Fantasy IV
2. Final Fantasy VI
3. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy Tactics
5. Final Fantasy V
Though to be honest, while it is supposedly the "true" best Final Fantasy, my best list would go something like this.
1. Final Fantasy IV
2. Final Fantasy VI
3. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy Tactics
5. Final Fantasy V
Agreed. So very agreed.Tanis said:
I was expecting the worst but I was pretty happy with the list. I did like the inclusion of V and Tactics but disliked VIII being on there, my choices would be:
5. V
4. VII
3. IX
2. VI
1. Tactics
5. V
4. VII
3. IX
2. VI
1. Tactics
For me:
5. FF 10
4. FF 9
3. FF Tactics
2. FF 5
1. FF 8
Why is FF 8 number one? One of those "my first final fantasy game" so it holds a special place in my heart. I love the characters, the story-line and the cutscenes. The draw system was a bit "eh.." though. The only FF game I haven't played between 4-12 is number 6 and I REALLY want to play it. Macs and PS emulators don't seem to work together well though...
5. FF 10
4. FF 9
3. FF Tactics
2. FF 5
1. FF 8
Why is FF 8 number one? One of those "my first final fantasy game" so it holds a special place in my heart. I love the characters, the story-line and the cutscenes. The draw system was a bit "eh.." though. The only FF game I haven't played between 4-12 is number 6 and I REALLY want to play it. Macs and PS emulators don't seem to work together well though...