Torchlight 2: The Missed Opportunity?

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Old Blizzard devs with the old Blizzard mentality of "It'll be done, when its done."

Torchlight 2's tardiness has come as no surprise to me. Though I am surprised it has to others.
 

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If Torchlight 2 was full price I think it would be more of an issue, but the $20 dollar price point should largely insulate as being within impulse buy range for most gamers. Even in spite of that, think of how many games all hit during the holiday season and this is still apparently profitable enough for companies to continue doing it. While larger games may dominate the press and hype, that doesn't necessarily mean purchases as well.
 

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TL2 won't suffer greatly from the setbacks as it has already made tons of money off of pre-orders, but it will lose out on the D3 hype since that has all but died out at this point. I have never seen a small developer push back their game so many times.
 

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regardless of everything discussed I'll agree with TC, I would've bought T2 but with Borderlands 2 coming out I have no reason to buy it anymore. I'll pick it up later in the year but right now I won't waste money on something I won't play
 

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I think these repeated delays is a great indicator that Runic have already secured more then enough pre-orders for them to turn profit. Since they aren't a big studio churning out a triple-A title either they probably aren't looking for Day 1 profit but for a longer, more sustained revenue stream. If that's the case it makes sense that they'd rather release a highly polished product that will get great word-of-mouth reviews that garners more players as opposed to releasing a product that word of mouth will dismiss as buggy and unfinished.
 

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Blargh McBlargh said:
Speaking of TL2... When the hell are they finally going to release it? :(

Before D3 came out, they said "About a month after Diablo"... It's been what, 3 and a half months now?
For awhile their release date was marked for July of 2011. Lol.
 

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If TL2 keeps pushing back the date to mid september/early october then they are going to see a drastic drop in sales until x-mas time and steam sales. Of course that's my opinion because that's what i'm planning to do now that the have taken their sweet time.
 

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Blargh McBlargh said:
Fappy said:
Blargh McBlargh said:
Speaking of TL2... When the hell are they finally going to release it? :(

Before D3 came out, they said "About a month after Diablo"... It's been what, 3 and a half months now?
For awhile their release date was marked for July of 2011. Lol.
Oh lord...
At this point I don't mind a prolonged wait. There is a ton of stuff coming out soon, so it'd be best for me personally if it got held back until late-September or maybe even October.
 

Fappy

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Blargh McBlargh said:
Fappy said:
At this point I don't mind a prolonged wait. There is a ton of stuff coming out soon, so it'd be best for me personally if it got held back until late-September or maybe even October.
Honestly, the more games, the better. :p I'm the kind of person that'll blaze through a 60 hour RPG in a week or so
I'll do that with games I am really, really excited to play. My problem is that I have a lot of single player and multiplayer games to balance at the moment. If TL2 comes out around the same time as GW2 there is going to be a bit of a dilemma as to what to make a priority.
 

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I can wait. I already bought the game anyway. And assuming GW2 falls flat on its face in terms of PvE content (that is to say, there being virtually no character progression in terms of skills after level 40, and the lack of high-level/endgame content) I'll have no good games to play besides Path of Exile and DOTA 2, neither of which I can play extensively at one given point, because I like to spread out my gaming time, rather than focus on one game at a time.
 

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Blargh McBlargh said:
Fappy said:
I'll do that with games I am really, really excited to play. My problem is that I have a lot of single player and multiplayer games to balance at the moment. If TL2 comes out around the same time as GW2 there is going to be a bit of a dilemma as to what to make a priority.
If I'm not mistaken, you can still pre-order 3 copies of Torchlight for $20, so you could always convince 2 friends to chip in a few bucks... ;)
Oh, and did I mention you get 3 copies of TL1 for free with it?
Trust me, we all have it pre-ordered now haha. I have over 10 friends IRL who are going to play it upon release. :p
 

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TheKasp said:
Tranquility said:
You're saying there isn't any overlap of fans of TL and GW2/Borderlands?

Whether they are the same genre or not, one person can only play one game at a time.
So I am limited to play only one game and when I'm done with it I can even think of getting another one? Good to know. Have to stop switching between Pokemon Conquest, Driver San Francisco, TF2, Day Z and Orcs must Die 2 (all games I've played during the last two days).

Okay, but technically--TECHNICALLY--you are only technically actually playing one game at one time. Technically. That is to say that you have one system in front of you and you are mentally engaged in only one piece of software at any given instant. You may play several different games during the course of a given time span, but you can technically only concentrate on the one. Technically. "Switching between them" in your comment indicates an instantaneous usage of one. Technically. (Did I say "technically" enough?)

Well, I guess you could be one of those people who has purposefully had their corpus callousum (the connecting neural bridge between brain hemispheres) severed to reduce the severity of any epileptic seizures. This results in an actual mental splitting of cognition, creating two independent brains and personas in the same body. Now, if this is you, I retract my first paragraph. You can play more than one game at a time. I also want to know if you have to stick to artsy games on your right brain/left-hand gaming system and spatial/analytical games on your left brain/right-hand gaming system.


Runic has my money already for Torchlight2. I paid them double twice so that I can rumble agin' the beasties with my offspring. Me and the kids, mindlessly dungeon delving. I had hoped for some summer fun with this title, but I honestly don't think they are losing out on anything, Torchlight2 is still going to be a casual game in my opinion. Get in, squash some baddies for 30 minutes, get fed up that you can't carry more crap, get out. Repeat tomorrow.
 

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I think the real missed opportunity was not releasing this a few months before Diablo 3. It would have cleaned up on the people itching for some Diablo who just couldn't wait. On top of that, Torchlight 2 is aggressively priced at $20 so it would have moved a ton of copies (I guess digital downloads don't really "weigh" anything so a ton isn't a proper measuring unit but that's besides the point). It still will, but maybe not quite as many. Now it has to contend with Diablo.

I think it's to the game's benefit to wait a bit before releasing. Releasing 1-2 months after Diablo would do the game no favors as people into this type of game would still be busy with Diablo or would be burnt out on this type of game. By waiting a few months, it gives people time to let people finish up with Diablo 3 and to recover from fatigue from that style of gameplay. The gap also gives the developer time to see what people are whining about in Diablo 3 so they can avoid those things in Torchlight 2.